Issue 20 Patch Notes - Build 2010.201105131851.1.0

Yeah anyway! What do you care about Reactive not working in Ice Storm anyway. You are just gonna be watching Netflix and letting the Reactive in Ice Blast work just fine.

You got me there lol!

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Given the amount of posts and the sign up date that I could verify, a reader looking back across posting history can only go by that.

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I'm not sure where this post history that you are talking about exists.

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As someone who encountered this twice within 24 hours on the same character this week: THANK YOU!!

Sorry McGruff, that ain't me.

It was scheduled, they just changed it when people reminded them it was broken. They'd said they had a fix in the pipe, but didn't think it would make it in time, hence changing it. So now that it's fixed, I expect it to be on June's schedule.

I'm sure he's not, Snow Globe is incapeable of being happy about CoH :P In all seriousness though, the only one potentially out of bounds is the Favor change. Assuming you only use the 10/10 conversion, a Favor is "worth" 120 threads (2 notices it took to make it = 80 + 30 shards to create (it's atually 32, but we're rounding down to even numbers)=120 shards). So if you just converted the pair of notices and shards separately it's worth more. Of course there may be ways in the future to directly earn Favors, at which point you might want to break them down then. (Hint hint). If not though, it'd be much better to see something like 100-115 as a possible number.

Not everyone wants to run trials that often, or AT ALL in some cases. Yes, the world is out to get you, you're being fleeced, screwed, your hard earned influence is being sunk using the in-game influence sinks that those hateful devs keep making, so you can't play it all on the market.

Actually, you're being "fleeced" out of $14.95/month being forced to pay for a game you don't like..oh wait...

I actually kinda like the shards and threads being separate, but a roumer I heard out of a Meet & Greet implied that it was being considered to change shard drops to threads. if it hasn't been KO'd it's probably being held so the trials remain exclusive for a while or until the next big major issue.

Never had a problem with any of those listed characters myself and I'm a SS/Inv tank (with fairly sick damage). Marauder (in the trial) is plain broken, and this is more in line with a (super powered) version of the other AVs. Oh "M. Bison" has a trick of course, and doesn't count, but I've never had a problem with him either...

As an aside, you can craft Alphas under the new system as well, you know.

Everyone had widely concluded it was a bug before BS posted, it hadn't been confirmed, but "might as well have been". The 10 second rule was more what I was talking about. Most everyone knows that's how all the procs work, and since it seemed you were advocating for the Incarnate proc(s) to be immune to that rule, hence my comment. The "No matter how much you wine about it" was more directed at the multitude of complaining and whining in the thread, and was a general response, not a specific one. It was a "royal you".

As was pointed out, it wasn't in beta, and didn't show up until live. In my opinion this patch should be pushed live ASAP (preferably Tuesday). kthxbai.

As it stands, I agree with you on the Favor conversion, but that assumes there may not be content in the future that directly rewards favors, at which point it looks a bit better. I suspect that may well be the case.

Something similar was said about Hami-O's dual-effects affecting powers that aren't supposed to be enhanceable when one of the two aspects IS enhanceable. Back in the day Castle said "It WILL be fixed at SOME POINT in the future, just be aware of that, we just don't know when."

It hasn't been fixed yet, but it will be. I think they're just trying to decide how to re-vamp Hami's to help compensate. Sometimes it takes ages to fix known bugs, and sometimes it doesn't. When you know you're using it "wrong" you're just asking for it. it's only a matter of time...

Only if you're looking at it as though you made the Notice. Then it's a stupidity tax, yes. If it just dropped for you for doing a WST, you didn't invest anything but time, and you've just gotten something "free" you can use that's more useful than shard conversions if what you need is threads. I suspect that's primarily why it was added. Same with the Favor, as I assume something will eventually directly reward them.

Well, as my post said "you left out the following patch notes," my statements were simply that people should be told of changes being made to powers. The fact that people in various forum threads concluded that the "only hitting one target" was a bug, before it was confirmed, does not eliminate the need to post a patch note...even one saying it is known issue that is being worked on.

I in no way that I can see said that the 10sec rule should be eliminated. I said that hitting one target per 10sec was worth letting people know, as it is both a change from the current function of the power AND not similar to any other proc effect.

If I had wanted the 10sec rule removed, I would have said something like "and it has a 10sec rule that should be eliminated."

Then don't assume that people know your posting history.

Actually, I'm am capable of being happy with most of the game. On the other hand I tend to fully voice my opinion on the stuff I don't like.

I really doubt that there will be a way to directly earn Favor of the Wells. There might eventually be other ways to earn Notices, but I doubt that would happen any time soon (next 18 months). I can see them eliminating shards, the alpha components, Notice of the Wells, and Favor of the Wells and merging them (and the associated trials/TF/raids) with the thread system.

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It also causes World of Confusion to aggro, when its built-in damage does not.

And under the threads system gearing up alpha is actually FASTER. Yeah shards are pretty much useless. Threads drop waaaay faster, and now with the Notice to thread conversion there is absolutely no need for shards. I'd say just get rid of them already.

I think that this is a very nice way of tying the rest of the original Alpha content into the larger Incarnate picture - so even lower level TFs are fully linked to the Incarnate system again.

Agree just get rid of Shards altogether...

I normally agree on this point, but in this particular case, I disagree. What the 100% resistance to all but Psi on Marauder means is that you must bring enough DPS to force him to use Unstoppable early enough to have it expire. In other words, it affects the time vs DPS requirements for getting the MO badges. Now that it no longer explicitly singles out the Lethal/Smashing damage types, it's more or less a universal requirement. It leaves the alternative of building a Psi-heavy team, but that wasn't required even before.

Black Scorpion, are you aware that this same 100% DR thing happens with The Honoree in the Lady Grey TF? His Unstoppable comes back pretty fast. It's not unheard of for LGTFs to effectively fail because they brought too much L/S damage to that fight.

I don't. I have no intention of using Incarnate Trials to unlock Alpha. I'm running the living bejesus out of them already for my post-Alpha stuff - I don't have any interest in running them more per character looking for Very Rare drops to build Alpha. I like the fact that I can still build out Alpha running other content.

I don't necessarily agree with your math, by my view, the Tier 3 component is being valued at 10 tier 1 components. At best, 4 tier 2. And around 2 tier 3, and about one tier 4...

Not too bad I don't think. Of course, that's all a different perspective. And I imagine that your issue is more with that issue itself than necessarily any perceived disparity in the breakdown rates between Alpha-components and Thread-components.

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Nope, not a logic fail. Using a power that's obviously broken and then claim it's been "nerfed" is the logic fail.

I've seen it countless times in MMO's. People are overjoyed they sudden have over-whelming power and then are upset when they are brought back into line with everyone else.

That's not a 'nerf' it's an adjustment. When a power is lowered too far down to make it useless and then never adjusted, that's a "nerf".

/signed

Having played MMO's for 5+ years I still don't understand the concept of people who continue to play when they are so obviously unhappy with things...

If someone doesn't like what the dev's do, QUIT. Simple choice. Sheesh.

And implying that anyone who shares a differing opinion than yours is either 1) stupid, 2) gullible, or 3) both.

It's your opinion you;re spouting, which is not any more factual or 'right' than anyone else's opinion, and you may need reminding of that. Hence having your post reported by the way.

Feel free to disagree with others, just don't imply they are stupid because you think you're more intelligent or simply because someone doesn't agree with you.

Thanks.

APP Melt Armor, for instance.

It is funny that the current Interface change likely fits the original (gaming) definition of nerf. OTOH, Interface itself is still very strong, it is simply its interaction with some powers where the reduction goes too far. Of course, it is all moot, since the dev team is already working on the adjustment to make it work properly.

Emberblast: 50 Fire/Fire blaster
Jessie Inferno: 50 Fire/SD scrapper
a wizard: 50 Rad/Sonic defender
The Nemesis Plothole: 50 StJ/Reg scrapper

Yeah, I was really looking forward to that week but was wondering if it would be fixed by the time they rolled it out as the WST. Myself and quite a few of my close playing buddies were pretty dissapointed when it had to be changed. My only thing now is I wish I could do a level 50 version of it. I like my sets and incarnate powers. Oh well...cake and all that. I'm pretty happy.

Now now, let's all calm down here. You know, a famous man once said "turn the other cheek", and I think that's good advice.

It's a quite *obscure* quote of course, I doubt *anyone* here has heard it before, but not everyone can be as well-read, insightful, and just plain handsome as I am. Ah well, we all have our crosses to bear.