New zone?!

Looks like we're both taking general statements as directed at us personally, then.

I'll admit (and this is probably what's been building in my case) feeling a bit ground down under the "If you don't like it, you're wrong, suck it up" feel that's been going on pretty much since Incarnates, shards, trials, etc. have come up. I stood with Eiko and others and pushed for solo/small team stuff and got just piled with BS and "lolsolo" and that sort of response - and the punitive shard conversion costs pretty much give the same sort of feel from the devs. (No, the vague, hand-wavy "look at it sometime maybe" statement doesn't really act as a salve.) It's obviously, given other comments, given the impression I don't like anything to do with incarnates (which, if you look at some of my characters, would be... well, wrong.) But I think it's getting me a bit more prickly about things - and affecting the way I'm seeing things being said.

Kind of appropriate the sonic issue got referred to in the thread, then. I've never wanted to deck someone so badly as a certain person who was busy telling me that I, the friends who were affected and posters were all "faking" the issues the bubbles were causing, lying just to look for attention. Probably the only time someone's gotten to me that badly on these boards - but we still had others doing the same sort of thing. Want to feel under siege... that did it.)

See above. It wasn't actually meant that way. Still somewhat hostile, as I look back at it, though. And with other peoples comments I've seen - yeah, I guess I am getting really snappy at people these days.

So I'm going to do something I seem to be doing a bit more these days and apologize to you for the attitude I threw at you. (And at Serpine, while I'm apologizing.) I should be able to have this discussion without jumping down your throats. (Seeing GG's quote, she can still go take a flying leap, as far as I'm concerned. Of course, she's part of the problem. Which is why I have her on the perma-ignore list. Avoiding an irritant.)

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It happens to me a lot; I was raised in a place where everyone wore their personalities on their sleeve, and I take a lot of things at face value. (Points if you correctly guess where I was raised. No, it was not the Northeast.)

I apologize in return. The forums are more like a battlefield these days; it makes me into a jerk myself sometimes. No hard feelings?

I kind of like it when you discuss things rationally, it gives your words weight. I do also get a thrill from nerd rage though...

We're good, far as I'm concerned.

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Tacoma.

Off by a lot.

I ran with a team in Faultline last night. My anecdote counters yours!

And I would accept that if

a) this wasn't the exact same damn justification used for the Rikti and Romulus. It's beyond tired now.
b) co-op content, as implemented in this game, didn't mean that my villains have to choose between being junior heroes and not doing the content at all.

Yech. I have a friend with epilepsy (the one I mentioned who fortunately wasn't playing this game during the issues with sonic) who has literally had doctors say that sort of junk. I've witnessed the guy's muscles contract so bad during a seizure he pretty much folded back on himself, and he will just go down onto concrete or sharp objects if it hits him at the wrong time. That doesn't really fake well.

I'm on the fence regarding the content myself. It took me like 5 years before I bothered getting a character to 50 and I've maybe done 10 trials total so far (and with just my main) so I suspect it could be that I just don't play frequently enough to dislike it. At this point all I get is a vague overwhelmed feeling whenever I hit the "What the ^@#! random piece of stuff do I need for that power now? Did anything useful for it drop? Will I even like that power?" reward stage of the event. But forum wise there seems (from a surface perspective) to be little give from both the like and dislike sides of the issue. I don't know exactly what to make of that (usually I just sort of ignore it since its really not my area of expertise). Anyway, both sides do seem to have valid perspectives for their particular playstyles, so really both seem somewhat right. So it sucks it can't be adjusted to make both (or at least those more in the dislike side) more happy.

Hey its cool, I was probably personally looking for a fight anyway to vent off work frustrations anyway. I'm actually not even sure why I'm in forum pounding mode anyway... its relatively atypical for me. Probably won't last.

Hmm... And I was going to guess Colorodo which is probably to close. I'll go out on a really wild limb and guess... Sweden?

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The logic in that post is...

No, not even a faceplam picture response or long-winded statement could possibly attest to just how...

Wow.

You called?

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

I would disagree.

What I have seen are things like "I should just hang-up on this stupid discussion." I have seen martyrdom and the like as well.

Constructive criticism can be very helpful.

However, even here, you simply state the participation metric is terrible and flawed. While it might be flawed from a having code bugs standpoint, it is not terrible. That is an opinion of it from your viewpoint and mine. Personally, I find the system to be just fine, real code bugs aside.

Constructive criticism and complaining (especially incessantly) because you don't like something based on how it makes you feel are two different things.

I have a wonderful group of people with whom I play the game with daily. I don't much care what forum posters (or people in general for that matter) think of me. Just because my methods and language in posting offend some people does not bother me. I am blunt and I speak my mind. Apparently, some people, including moderators, think I am a troll for speaking my mind, because they assume I am attacking them.

*shrug*

I live in a place where I am allowed to say what I think and I rail against being censored.

The point I have been trying to make through all of the various flare-ups and rage on the forums for many years is simple, IMO. I do not want decisions that have an effect on the game and therefore my enjoyment of it, to be made based upon the uncontrollable emotions of rage and angst. I have no respect or patience for people who make decisions with emotion over logic.

But it can't be done any other way - Heroes can only do heroic things, but Villains can also do heroic things for their own benefit.

Then I'm glad you agree: co-op content sucks because it doesn't allow both sides to pursue their own styles.

I think it's totally ok - the Rikti and Tyrant would both wipe out Heroes and Villains if they won - both invasions are a fight for survival for everyone on Primal Earth - and it doesn't matter if your goal in life is to protect the world or conquer it - these forces coming from other dimensions are trying to make sure that first, the world you want to protect/conquer will belong to them, and second, that you're not around to protect/conquer it.

I'm glad you agree: co-op content sucks because it keeps recycling the same old rationalization for its existence.

Fixed that for ya.

When was the last time you were in RWZ? Because that used to be an old zone nobody goes to.

Heroes can be tricked. Happens all the time in comics.

Constructive feedback is aimed at devs. "The discussion we're having is pretty stupid" is aimed at other forum posters. Who it should surprise nobody to learn, often say stupid things. Telling another player I'm going to stop responding because they say stupid things doesn't prevent me from leaving feedback about something.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

But, apparently, when I give my negative opinion on some things people say, it's trolling.

Interesting double standard, that.

If you learned the answer, you would have to be 'disappeared'.

Like that comic image I saw somewhere here on the forums recently, of Thor and Loki joining forces against a bigger bad. Thor says "For Midgard!" while Loki says "For myself!"

If you mean the rationalization that splitting the player base into two factions that never see each other was a huge mistake, then you are correct. Pretty much everything that has come over the past few years has been more or less working toward undoing the state of affairs that City of Villains ushered in.

I knew I could count on you