New zone?!

You're much closer than Scythus. It's in the US.

I'll give a hint: It's in the South, but not the Deep South/Bible Belt.

Fixed THAT for you.

That was the best you could come up with? Even Power had better comebacks than that. I feel sad for you.

Because the people planning on enslaving the world you want to destroy also intend to remove you from the pciture.

I don't want this thread to get modlocked.

Or maybe make them all Praetorian-style moral choice stories? Like there'd be a choice in each arc where you could decide to be good or evil.

Totally agree on this idea..

New zones - ok.. but villains first
Revamp old zones - YES! pls...

Why? Tha last new single-faction zone was red side

That shouldn't stop me from bludgeon your hero the moment I have half the chance if your back is turned against me trusting me.

What meant here is that some heroes might want some factions to win. And that might be another faction then the devs force the villains into. Co-op always will give this problem. I am sure there are enough loyalist villains who would gladly fight on the side of the Praetorians against you!

But at this time more storylines would help... the storylines are there... if you must... let them be connected to the praetorian invasion then. What are the COT doing about it. Is Vhazilok happy with Tyrant? With the dimensional borders weakened... will the Rikti draw their own plan and Rularuu sees another chance to destroy all life on Primal Earth?

And the Blue side still has waaaaayyyyyy more zones and variation then red side ever had.

I never trust Villains that far

But that means they'd be failures and losers - Tyrant and his loyalists have to be defeated for us to make the Well switch its support - so anyone who sided with Tyrant would be an automatic failure, as Tyrant is destined to lose, so the story can move onto the next stage.

Or ever will have - it's just not as popular to be naughty as it is to be nice

The moment they created the ability for players to be villains was the moment villains got the specific non-comic tread of being able to win. We are a big part of the community and automatically let us lose is simply stated.. stupid!

You don't always lose - but you do if you get involved in any big world-threatening events - Heroes will always save the world, and Villains will never conquer it - which means that Tyrant and the loyalists will never win, so any player that sided with them would be an automatic loser.
Villains have to have low-level successes - they can't have any major success that would affect the game world.

Tyrant can mass-murder and brain-wash and torture and oppress people in Praetoria, and villains can help him - but his bigger plans to spread mass-murder, brain-washing, torture and oppression to the wider game world will fail, because the good side can't lose - Tyrant's role, just like any other supervillain, is to be a failure anytime he tries to do anything that will affect the wider game world.

And that also makes every player who is a villain just as untouchable as the heroes are... Consider Arachnos to be unbeatable too. As comics always showed... the hero is only as interesting as his villain. Without an antagonist the hero often ends up boring. If you would have GG on Union and you would roleplay you would find me making a mess of your life just for the fun of it :P

The big thing is that Cole is not going to let any Primal metas live after he conquers Primal Earth. And I know that most of my villains wouldn't be happy living under Cole. Not enough profit when the seers are watching everyone.

Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?

I am not saying that every villain would side with him... just that there are enough. Cole accepted his personal guards being meta's... He can just as well accept more meta's in the same rank.

My main would side just long enough to find a way to get her own goals realised. Following the winner is often the easiest way to the top. That also means if it looks likes Cole is losing she fights on the hero side again ofcourse. To her there is only one good side.. her own! She is about power. Profit is for mortal flesh. She long left that desire behind her.

On the other hand, this could be cause and effect. Add more stuff to do redside without simultaneously adding things blueside, and there will be more villains.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

To which an appropriate villain response would be: Let them try. Not "Please, Mister Hero, let me tag along with you."

Well, they did attack Nerva.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Oh, you know.... ridiculous and pointless hyperbole. It's an internet thing.

I'm not so sure - I mean, on the Sutter TF, the War Walkers say they'll give us 3 seconds to surrender beore they wipe us out, so Tyrant's totally holding back and trying to be as reasonable as possible when dealing with the superpowered people of Primal Earth - like he didn't only offer a ridiculous 1 second, or even a tight 2 seconds - he generously gave us a full 3 seconds to weigh up the pros and cons of becoming his prisoners

Putting your hands up behind your head takes only a second.

To be fair though, especially with metas, that can be seen as a threatening action.