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Posted on: 2011-03-12 08:39 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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People did all of those things. However:| You know, just maybe the Lost wouldn't be so lost if they had people who were there for them, provided meals, helped them find work, etc. etc. |
- You don't need superpowers to volunteer at a soup kitchen. You do need them to punch a Hellion in the face and survive. Three guesses which job the MA/Regen Scrapper should sign up for.
- The city was devastated in the first Rikty War. Relief workers were overwhelmed.
Having the supers beat their swords into plowshares wouldn't have helped and might even have been counterproductive, leaving the city open to opportunistic attacks by other factions. - Many of the people who end up in groups like the Lost or Freakshow don't care that there might be help available. They want a faster and easier way to power, or to lash out, or have psychological problems that keep them from seeking aid, etc. Even in the real world one of the biggest obstacles faced by charitable groups is getting people to put aside their pride (etc.) and actually ask for help.
There are evils in the world that can't be vanquished by punching out the right long-haired pretty boy or throwing a ring into a volcano. Our characters fight the ones that can.
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Freedom does a right old job of slurring itself without the need of anybody's help. |
Originally Posted by Dante
In the meantime, please don't spoil the celebrations by slurring my home. It's not warranted or welcomed.
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| I think it's more from the point of view of selling the game - normal clothes simply don't look as intertesting as costumes when it comes to attracting attention from potential players - screenshots of 3 new styles of T-shirt aren't as likely to get as much attention as screenshots of animal heads, for example. |
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It could be worse...|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Union isn't known for its wit or intelligence - Euro side, it has a similar reputation to Freedom server
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We could be on the server with you on it
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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You can easily make both of those already. We have plenty of options at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Some examples;
  Hmn....this is where my knowledge fails me. Anyone else got good examples of super and/or hero designs with casual clothes? Because I know they're out there. |
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You will be |
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
It could be worse...
We could be on the server with you on it |
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What's that got to do with Dante being from Union? |
Originally Posted by je_saist
Freedom does a right old job of slurring itself without the need of anybody's help.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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They doubled their staff just to add Praetoria into the game world. Does it make any sense at all to drop the story they've started when it's still in its infancy? Would NCSoft and the shareholders jump for joy to see all the money they shelled out for development get pissed away on an expansion that stopped being expanded upon before a year is even up?|
Originally Posted by Dante
Or we could just let the Devs get Goatee Paragon out of their system fast so that we can get on with a decent storyline for a change.
Despite the good news on the server list merge, the news that the obsession with Praetoria continues unabated is still disappointing to me.  |
If you don't like Praetoria, don't play in it. The rest of us that have been wanting it since Maria Jenkins' arc was put into the game will continue to enjoy it, and expect that the Devs continue down the road they've started down with Going Rogue.
In case you missed it, they did say that they'll continue adding in content for the lower levels all throughout the game, which is exactly what you seem to be wanting.
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Calm down, sir.
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
They doubled their staff just to add Praetoria into the game world. Does it make any sense at all to drop the story they've started when it's still in its infancy? Would NCSoft and the shareholders jump for joy to see all the money they shelled out for development get pissed away on an expansion that stopped being expanded upon before a year is even up?
If you don't like Praetoria, don't play in it. The rest of us that have been wanting it since Maria Jenkins' arc was put into the game will continue to enjoy it, and expect that the Devs continue down the road they've started down with Going Rogue. In case you missed it, they did say that they'll continue adding in content for the lower levels all throughout the game, which is exactly what you seem to be wanting. |
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And it will involve Praetoria. He doesn't like Praetoria. How does new low level content that involves Praetoria help him?|
Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
In case you missed it, they did say that they'll continue adding in content for the lower levels all throughout the game, which is exactly what you seem to be wanting.
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So merging the server lists...wild speculation....could cross-server teaming be on the way?
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We can't make the hoodie, baggy tops really don't have the texture to emulate the front pocket, or the zipper (which is a real shame since all it would take it a texture) and most of the hoods are too heavy looking, or distinctly arcane, not to mention there's not hood that works for 'open jackets'.
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Originally Posted by Xzero45
You can easily make both of those already. We have plenty of options at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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Good question. If you'll give me a few hundred years, I might have a good answer.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
What's that got to do with Dante being from Union?
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I think you're assuming wrongly here what Dante means.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
And it will involve Praetoria. He doesn't like Praetoria. How does new low level content that involves Praetoria help him?
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Cross-server teaming was already mentioned last year as one of the development goals, so no speculation, wild or otherwise, is needed.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
And it will involve Praetoria. He doesn't like Praetoria. How does new low level content that involves Praetoria help him?
So merging the server lists...wild speculation....could cross-server teaming be on the way? |
Other than the server merge list, there wasn't anything here that was that interesting.
More trials . . . okay nifty.
More trials based on a storyline that has been dragging on for far too long. . . NO!
I do hope other storylines are focused on other than the fate of that FAIL dimension.
I might be alone in this but the first things that came to mind when they mentioned even "MOAR PRAETORIA" is "DO. NOT. WANT."
I understand they want to wrap up that storyline, but it's getting tedious.
That combined with response about the Shadow Shard and older zones/content does not leave a positive note for my about this panel, unlike the one they did at the last convention which dropped hints about the Incarnate Trials and Inherent Stamina.
EDIT: If they add one or two story arcs or tfs that HAVE NOTHING TO DO with goatee universe I'll be fine and dandy. Honestly there's still a lot to do in game, so I'm NOT as disappointed as the above might portray.
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Aura: I think you and everybody else who doesn't like Praetoria are going to be very disappointed with the next couple of issues.
The developers have intentionally set up Marcus Cole and the Praetorians as the main Incarnate Content Storyline, and for the forseeable future the Incarnate Content will continue to be about fighting the Praetorian menace.
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As mentioned in my edit if they add something every issue that has NOTHING to do with the Praetorians I'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
Aura: I think you and everybody else who doesn't like Praetoria are going to be very disappointed with the next couple of issues.
The developers have intentionally set up Marcus Cole and the Praetorians as the main Incarnate Content Storyline, and for the forseeable future the Incarnate Content will continue to be about fighting the Praetorian menace. |
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I really don't think you'll see anything on that front until Issue 22 at the earliest.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
As mentioned in my edit if they add something every issue that has NOTHING to do with the Praetorians I'll be fine.
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There's already way more non-Praetorian stuff in the game, so now they're trying to balance it out a bit - and Praetoria will always be a part of the Incarnate system, because that's where the first Trials atke place - you need to progress through them to continue on the Incarnate path.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
If they add one or two story arcs or tfs that HAVE NOTHING TO DO with goatee universe I'll be fine and dandy.
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Originally Posted by Daemodand
"England expects that every man will do his duty."
This distinction between British and English seems a largely modern affectation. Historically, they've been interchangeable. |
And it p****s us welsh/scots/irish off
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Originally Posted by je_saist
I really don't think you'll see anything on that front until Issue 22 at the earliest.
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Cause if you're right it means no powerset prolif or anything else before 22.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
There's already way more non-Praetorian stuff in the game that's been left dangling and not completed storyline wise, so now they're trying to balance it out a bit - and Praetoria will always be a part of the Incarnate system, because that's where the first Trials atke place - you need to progress through them to continue on the Incarnate path.
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EDIT: I get Praetoria needs to be finished. However there are many other stories that they CAN work on at the same time. I don't agree that it's one or the other. That's by their choice.
Adding a tf that has nothing to do with Praetoria in the same issue as they add a Praetorian trial, is possible.
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i dont know, there is no particular purpose that praetoria would preclude more proliferation . i think you are reading a bit much into what saist is saying. story-wise, the game seems to be doing the praetoria thing for a bit longer, but proliferation was not story related last time, and it never really had an ingame explanation anyhow(and the meta explanation was mostly discarded, for good reason..shudder), so i wouldn't assume that just because of the phrasing. the alternate animations for ranged had nothing to do with praetoria, and they were released in issue 19, so i wouldn't read too much into that comment.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
Aura: I think you and everybody else who doesn't like Praetoria are going to be very disappointed with the next couple of issues.
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I'm kinda resigned to that. Fortunately, there's plenty of other things to do. Do I want more low level things added to the game? Yes. Do I want them related to Praetoria? No.
If the Devs dedicated as much drive and attention to wrapping up the many, many storylines that have been left hanging over the years as they are to the Praetorian one, I'd be very happy.
C'est la vie.
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'course, that won't answer the question why we don't try and scrap all of the portal tech over there, and then let Praetorian Hami take over. Maybe the heroes wouldn't like those aesthetics, but the villains might not care so much...
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