Reichsman still equal parts tedious and annoying.

Eiko-chan · 02-09-2011 10:02 AM

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Finished a Kahn in 19 min. yesterday. Whole TF from beginning to end. 19 minutes. Reischman went down in less than 2 of those minutes. YMMV, but it's really hard for me to get bored with anything in less than 2 minutes.

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ClawsandEffect · 02-09-2011 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Eiko-chan

The last time I ran it was before i18.

Actually, I think the last time I ran it was before i17 even.

That said, I'm kind of looking forward to running a Kahn, just because it's been quite a while since I have.

I've never run a Barracuda, mostly because when people actually WANTED to run them, none of my villains were high enough to do it.

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EvilGeko · 02-09-2011 10:08 AM

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Naw, I like bragging. Just like you enjoy complaining instead of just playing the game to get the things you want.

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Minotaur · 02-09-2011 10:20 AM

Yesterday 11 Kahns, all 27-37 mins. Best time for STF was 47 mins, I did about 11 of which we succeeded 8 not always with appropriate teams, although one of the STFs succeeded only due to raiding a couple of bases for every sensible size orange and purple

Not crazy fast but reasonable.

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EU_Damz · 02-09-2011 10:30 AM

Havent tried cuda . . . but i really like the khan

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EvilGeko · 02-09-2011 10:42 AM

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I would not be at all surprised to see a round of Merit Reward "rebalancing" after a few more weeks of Strike Targets. Average Kahn completion time seems to be 2/3 to 1/2 of average Barracuda completion time in my experience, but it rewards 50% more merits.

We are even seeing Kahn times surface that rival Speed Katies. Barracuda is also more prone to ending in frustrated teams disbanding than most other TFs, although unlike the LRSF and STF I think a lot of teams these days just don't bother to start it unless they can assemble the "right" configuration.

I wonder. The last time they did a merit rebalancing it was to increase all rewards. Merits have lost some of their luster. I doubt there will be any nerfs, but hopefully buffs. At least that's what I tell myself as I plot ways to speed through Sister Psyche!

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NordBlast · 02-09-2011 10:52 AM

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I would not be at all surprised to see a round of Merit Reward "rebalancing" after a few more weeks of Strike Targets. Average Kahn completion time seems to be 2/3 to 1/2 of average Barracuda completion time in my experience, but it rewards 50% more merits.

We are even seeing Kahn times surface that rival Speed Katies. Barracuda is also more prone to ending in frustrated teams disbanding than most other TFs, although unlike the LRSF and STF I think a lot of teams these days just don't bother to start it unless they can assemble the "right" configuration.

I think, devs flipped rewards for Kahn and Cuda by accident during i18 release. It used to be 20 for Kahn and 30 for Cuda before that.

Dispari · 02-09-2011 11:05 AM

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What, you think it's somehow more boring than in Kahn, where there are no ambushes or temp powers, and instead you just occasionally take a break from beating on him to defeat a more cooperative AV?

It is, the Khan one has less gimmicks. He doesn't do all of his debuffs or phasing and such, and once the extra AVs die that's it. The Cuda one has him phasing and doing all kinds of stuff constantly, inbetween infinite ambushes. While the ambushes do die down eventually, they're still a nuisance. I find it takes way longer to kill the Cuda version. Past a point it starts to just get old.

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GreenPiranha · 02-09-2011 11:28 AM

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So far today: 8 Kahns 2 BSfs.

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Golden Girl · 02-09-2011 11:31 AM

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I would not be at all surprised to see a round of Merit Reward "rebalancing" after a few more weeks of Strike Targets. Average Kahn completion time seems to be 2/3 to 1/2 of average Barracuda completion time in my experience, but it rewards 50% more merits.

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Aura_Familia · 02-09-2011 12:28 PM

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Finished a Kahn in 19 min. yesterday. Whole TF from beginning to end. 19 minutes. Reischman went down in less than 2 of those minutes. YMMV, but it's really hard for me to get bored with anything in less than 2 minutes.

That is awesome. Doesn't change the fact that sacks of hp as challenge is something this game needs to move away from. Thankfully it seems they are.

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Wooden_Replica · 02-09-2011 12:40 PM

I actually like the last Barracuda,

there is the temp power angle, which is different
And the mother of all ambushes I also actually like

Should it be more than Khan, sure, but honestly speaking, with side switching bit, the merit inbalances doesn't bother me anymore.

Question though,
if you happen to have a rogue or a vigilante, and you complete both the WST for both villians and heroes, are you able to benifit twice in the same week??

brophog02 · 02-09-2011 12:41 PM

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Question though,
if you happen to have a rogue or a vigilante, and you complete both the WST for both villians and heroes, are you able to benifit twice in the same week??

No.

Chaos Creator · 02-09-2011 12:44 PM

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EvilGeko · 02-09-2011 01:10 PM

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That is awesome. Doesn't change the fact that sacks of hp as challenge is something this game needs to move away from. Thankfully it seems they are.

It's not a sack of HP. Reischman is a scripted encounter on either side. AV Adds at specific HP totals + need to use the temp power for heroes. Adds + AT specific temp powers for villains IIRC (haven't done Cuda in awhile).

A sack of HP is literally a big AV with big damage that you have to beat down and nothing else is going on. We haven't had a TF like that in awhile.

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Techbot Alpha · 02-09-2011 01:20 PM

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It's not a sack of HP. Reischman is a scripted encounter on either side. AV Adds at specific HP totals + need to use the temp power for heroes. Adds + AT specific temp powers for villains IIRC (haven't done Cuda in awhile).

A sack of HP is literally a big AV with big damage that you have to beat down and nothing else is going on. We haven't had a TF like that in awhile.

Nope, doesn't stop Reichs being a big sack of HP.
He's not even an Archvillain. He has is own damn class he's that much a sack of HP.

Rommy is a standard AV with his Nictus flavour pets that make him harder. Still a fun fight and allows for tactical mechanics.
Recluse, once you beat down the Towers in STF, goes down like anything else. That doesnt stop it being fun.
The Phalanx are all Hero class, so that makes it challenging. Doesnt make it not fun.

Reichs NEEDS temp powers to take him down, has the mother of all endless, anti-stealth homing ambushes that WILL chase you to the map entrance and spawn on top of you in the tunnels, AND he hits harder than States AND he has double if not triple the HP of any other thing in the game.

He's the bleedin' epitomy of 'The Computer is a Cheating *******'.

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EvilGeko · 02-09-2011 01:29 PM

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Nope, doesn't stop Reichs being a big sack of HP.
He's not even an Archvillain. He has is own damn class he's that much a sack of HP.

Rommy is a standard AV with his Nictus flavour pets that make him harder. Still a fun fight and allows for tactical mechanics.
Recluse, once you beat down the Towers in STF, goes down like anything else. That doesnt stop it being fun.
The Phalanx are all Hero class, so that makes it challenging. Doesnt make it not fun.

Reichs NEEDS temp powers to take him down, has the mother of all endless, anti-stealth homing ambushes that WILL chase you to the map entrance and spawn on top of you in the tunnels, AND he hits harder than States AND he has double if not triple the HP of any other thing in the game.

He's the bleedin' epitomy of 'The Computer is a Cheating *******'.

Right! A fun scripted encounter like I said!

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Zekiran_Immortal · 02-09-2011 01:59 PM

I did this TF last night for the very first time, on a db/wp scrapper, and I had a ton of fun. Yes, we had at least two close or full team wipes, just in that last encounter. But ... we still pulled through, and made it anyway. Plus, once half my team was unconscious, and then the tank fell, and *I was the last one standing actually fighting him*, I felt *GLORIOUS*.

Yes, he ko'd me a few moments later, but it was still full of awesome. Its a tf I will eagerly do again. It felt *challenging*.

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Techbot Alpha · 02-09-2011 02:06 PM

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Right! A fun scripted encounter like I said!

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Dispari · 02-09-2011 02:18 PM

FWIW, I think the Khan version is balanced about right. The Cuda version though tends to drag on too long.

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Scythus · 02-09-2011 03:11 PM

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Yeah, it happens.

All three times I've tried it.

*Polishes off his shiny LRSF badge.* Try harder.

Blood_Beret · 02-09-2011 04:10 PM

The biggest shortcut on Cuda, is the second mission. After you take care of Mueller's Ambush. Have some tp the team to a safe spot near Numinas room.

Funny thing, Mueller does not teleport with you, but shows up for the cut scene.

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Samuel_Tow · 02-10-2011 03:09 AM

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*Polishes off his shiny LRSF badge.* Try harder.

You forgot to add "lrn2ply."

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EvilGeko · 02-10-2011 04:57 AM

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You forgot to add "lrn2ply."

Obviously, the L2P lingo is slightly offensive, but the message behind it isn't. Really, what's wrong with having content that you have to practice before you beat it. Don't folks ever get tired of having content that they can beat the very first try?

And even if the answer to that is "No, I love stuff like that." Can you not see how some players would enjoy difficult content that they have to practice and learn?

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EvilGeko · 02-10-2011 05:02 AM

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