Reichsman still equal parts tedious and annoying.


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Just finished a Barracuda Strike Force run and was reminded again that the 'Cuda Reichsman fight is the single most irritating AV fight in the game.

The "biggest sack of AV hp EV-AR" approach to his design doesn't make for an interesting fight.

i like the "gadget fight" elements, but it doesn't make up for the general annoyance of "keep hitting him until either he falls or team DPS drops too low from the players dozing off at their desks waiting for him to fall."

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Still, got the Notice of the Well, so i guess it was for something worthwhile.


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What, you think it's somehow more boring than in Kahn, where there are no ambushes or temp powers, and instead you just occasionally take a break from beating on him to defeat a more cooperative AV?


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Or the LRSF where you are instantaneously killed, repeatedly, and fail every time?
More tedious? Yes. At least that failure is over quickly. The one time I ran Barracuda and failed it took forever...although the massive 5th Column ambushes were fun.


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I <3 Cuda. Kahn, on the other hand, is boring as hell.


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I *love* the ambushes in the Barracuda TF. It's one of my favourite bits of the whole game. I wish there were more like it -- that's what the reactor ambushes in the respec trial should be like, not endless hanging around waiting for a couple of measly spawns.

Still, that said, sometimes it pays to know the speed runners on the server. One hour, two Khans, two Notices :-)


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I <3 Cuda. Kahn, on the other hand, is boring as hell.
I <3 both.


 

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although the massive 5th Column ambushes were fun.
The last time I ran Barracuda, we almost didn't wipe on the ambushes.


 

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What, you think it's somehow more boring than in Kahn, where there are no ambushes or temp powers, and instead you just occasionally take a break from beating on him to defeat a more cooperative AV?
Reichsman fights are the most boring evar!


 

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What, you think it's somehow more boring than in Kahn, where there are no ambushes or temp powers, and instead you just occasionally take a break from beating on him to defeat a more cooperative AV?
Did a Kahn run today where we completely ignored the 4 AVs and just pounded on Reichsmann the whole time. With everyone level shifted and buffed from Rares, he went down surprisingly fast, and the only debuffs we had was one Rad.


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I'll take Kahn to 'cuda any day. At least the final battle seems sort of thought out, there.

In 'cuda, you either have the right ATs to get all the temp powers, and you conquer it as though it's nothing more than a minor speed bump, or you don't have the AT mix designated by on high and you spend two hours beating on the guy only to realize you'll never win.

Kahn at least requires a little bit of being able to think on your feet.


 

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I *love* the ambushes in the Barracuda TF. It's one of my favourite bits of the whole game. I wish there were more like it -- that's what the reactor ambushes in the respec trial should be like, not endless hanging around waiting for a couple of measly spawns.

Still, that said, sometimes it pays to know the speed runners on the server. One hour, two Khans, two Notices :-)
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Having a blast with both TFs. Starting to wonder if some people like anything that isn't RPing in pocket D, sitting under Atlas statue or doorsitting in a farm.


 

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What, you think it's somehow more boring than in Kahn, where there are no ambushes or temp powers, and instead you just occasionally take a break from beating on him to defeat a more cooperative AV?
The last couple Kahns i was on involved ignoring the AV adds and letting the splash damage eliminate them. Occasionally a teammate or two focuses on the add and just makes sure Reichsman is lined up in any cones used on the other AV.
Still, Reichsman himself just gets tedious when you don't have much in the way of debuffs to toss on him. i think the only reason BSF annoyed me more than most Kahn TFs is that i've done it less and the rest of the team was also less familiar with the SF.

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Or the LRSF where you are instantaneously killed, repeatedly, and fail every time?
Never had that happen on the LRSF, but i've only done a couple dozen LRSF runs at most. Mostly on PuGs along the line of what Dechs and Smurphy are known for: any AT, any powersets.

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I *love* the ambushes in the Barracuda TF. It's one of my favourite bits of the whole game. I wish there were more like it -- that's what the reactor ambushes in the respec trial should be like, not endless hanging around waiting for a couple of measly spawns.

Still, that said, sometimes it pays to know the speed runners on the server. One hour, two Khans, two Notices :-)
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The last time I ran Barracuda, we almost didn't wipe on the ambushes.
We did at a couple points have two team members on the floor at the same time, but then it was a PuG-ish SF made up of whoever was on channels at a fairly early time and none of us had run the SF recently or lead one before. So not really an ideal speed run setup. Still, not very difficult or dangerous, just a bit slow.

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Reichsman fights are the most boring evar!
Basically that's my opinion. The gadgets and ambushes do reduce the monotony, but the sheer amount of hp to pound through makes him much more tedious than Rommy or other AVs with tricks of their own that don't involve an hp bar that takes forever to move.


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I <3 Cuda. Kahn, on the other hand, is boring as hell.
You missed my 30 min Khan blow through, and we plowed it. Khan was bloody easy. Just stack all the AVs at the end and continue to beat Khan no temps needed.


 

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Or the LRSF where you are instantaneously killed, repeatedly, and fail every time?
Never had that happen on the LRSF, but i've only done a couple dozen LRSF runs at most. Mostly on PuGs along the line of what Dechs and Smurphy are known for: any AT, any powersets.
He's probably talking about himself personally. Though I've usually succeeded at the LRSF, I have to agree with him. Scrappers have it particularly hard.


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You missed my 30 min Khan blow through, and we plowed it. Khan was bloody easy. Just stack all the AVs at the end and continue to beat Khan no temps needed.
I'd like to point out by speed run standards even this is slow.


 

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So not really an ideal speed run setup.
Last time I ran Barracuda, we had no Stalker. The first time we ran it was while the temporary powers were not working.


 

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Last time I ran Barracuda, we had no Stalker. The first time we ran it was while the temporary powers were not working.
We had no Stalker either, but we had a Scrapper, which is much the same as far as the temp power IIRC. Of course discussing when to use the power did delay things a bit even though we kept on whacking the ambushes down with regular attacks while we did it. It was a bit disorganized overall, but still fun. It was just the final battle with Reichsman that dragged on.


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The last time I ran it was before i18.


 

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I'll take Kahn to 'cuda any day. At least the final battle seems sort of thought out, there.

In 'cuda, you either have the right ATs to get all the temp powers, and you conquer it as though it's nothing more than a minor speed bump, or you don't have the AT mix designated by on high and you spend two hours beating on the guy only to realize you'll never win.

Kahn at least requires a little bit of being able to think on your feet.
the only AT you need to get rid of reichsmans phasing is a defender or a mm, the rest doesnt really matter

kahn fight is insanely boring and just beating on him with nothing popping up

/agree with tamaki


 

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Reichsman fights are the most boring evar!
Yup. Agree. I rarely run these because of this. I also think a villain group based on Nazis is in, somewhat, poor taste.


 

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Yup. Agree. I rarely run these because of this. I also think a villain group based on Nazis is in, somewhat, poor taste.
Wha? Nazi's are one of the few groups it's still acceptable to use as bad guys. It's them, zombies and inscrutable alien invaders. Besides the fact that they're almost as much a genre staple as tights and flying people.


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kahn = 23 minutes this morning.

easy merits and an easy well for my time!...just gotta have the right people and thankfully i do!


 

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I also think a villain group based on Nazis is in, somewhat, poor taste.
Superheroes wouldn' be superheroes without some Nazi-bahing - they're like the evil organization of choice for heroes to trash on a regular basis


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