Didnt know i was bragging.
I just wanted to get some actual solid numbers for how much the resent change affected speed.
Sure hope it didnt come off as "IM SO AWESOME I GOT SOMEONE TO 50 IN 3 HOURS!!!" because thats not what i intended. I sure know i didnt think there was anything impressive about it at all anyways.
"I have ridden the mighty moon worm!"
-Al Gore
Fiery Aura is only good for farming, I'm cereal
@Caucasiafro
There are very few things we can do that the devs don't already know about. I wouldn't assume the devs would be aware that they can PL someone to 50 in a little over 3 hours. They probably did it themselves many times for testing purposes and what-not. "Bragging" on the forums is not going to attract the nerf bat. I doubt anything is going on in-game as far as AE farming is concerned that they don't already know about.
The only real risk with public discussions is that it may lure players who wouldn't have necessarily thought about it by themselves to the aberrant gameplay, to the point that the number of people doing that activity crosses whatever threshold the devs deem unacceptable.
Mentioning farming speed in a 800 replies topic that was about just that is unlikely to prompt a bunch of players to suddenly pick up farming.
I guess I'm the idiot to ever see the self-loathing types as the ones that ultimately piss-off the devs by rubbing the 1 to 50 in a few hours in their face.
Oh and thinking that the devs know everything about their game is possible. Sometimes the details are the missing link though. 
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mmk, went ahead had PLed someone 1-50 last night to see how the resent change effected everything.
Took 3:19. Exactly 14 arcs, 70 missions, of FIRE! (ID# 423253) Load times were included, they had an average of 6 in 7 out. Which means there was about....15 minutes of load times i think. I honestly couldnt believe how fast they were. Thats down from about 2 hours and 9.5 arcs. |
I'll chime in that I have a SS/Fire brute for PL'ing, but for purple farming against mobs, I use my Arch/MM blaster. He's faster than my brute, and anyone who sees it in action is usually much more impressed.
I'm not saying my blaster is faster than any tooled out SS/Fire brute. I'm saying my blaster is faster than MY brute. Both are farmers and I have spent MINIMAL money on either. Both have a couple of LotG's and regular IO's. No sets. Oh, the blaster has Stealth IO in his combat jumping.
But I farm purples w/ a toon that has maybe 20 played on him, and most were farming. I'll try out that arc. Thanks for posting it.
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1) Spirit alpha, reactive interface, ageless destiny, and ion judgement.
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1) ultra, why Ion? I have Pyronic, the rest is the same as yours on my SS/Fire/Mu
2) Am I being stupid for farming at +4/x8/bosses? I ticket cap before killing all the initial ambushes and clicking the glowie, I don't even get a Rage crash most times (it's a cheapish and secondary build, but with 100% rech plus t3 on everything you have). Or is it significantly better for influence than say, +3/x8 or +2/x8 with bosses? Maybe faster too since I ticket cap so fast?
3) Is it worth to put a dmg proc in Burn?
4) I want to level lock a farmer at 33 to get 33 recipes since they sell well. So what'd you suggest? I don't think Claws/Elec (25 now) is that great especially since you die easily on TopDoc's lowbie farm if you're not careful (ok not that I die a lot, but I have to pay way more attention than my SS/Fire/Mu where I just have to eat 2 purps and the rest damage). I was thinking about elec/fire or claws/fire, since I won't be able to get insane rech unless I put purps I might do it on +1/x8 or even less.
The idea in elec/fire would be to use Burn, CI, TS and LRod (with BU since I can only put 4 dam/rech on LR). But maybe a Claws/fire is better? Fu to boost everything's damage, Spin, Burn, maybe Eviscerate.
Thanks in advance.
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From what I have heard Ion is broken and hits the same target multiple times causing way more damage then it should.
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Originally Posted by Kioshi
I have two questions for you farming experts
1) ultra, why Ion? I have Pyronic, the rest is the same as yours on my SS/Fire/Mu 2) Am I being stupid for farming at +4/x8/bosses? I ticket cap before killing all the initial ambushes and clicking the glowie. Or is it significantly better for influence than say, +3/x8 or +2/x8 with bosses? 3) I want to level lock a farmer at 33 to get 33 recipes since they sell well. So what'd you suggest? I don't think Claws/Elec (25 now) is that great especially since you die easily on TopDoc's lowbie farm if you're not careful (ok not that I die a lot, but I have to pay way more attention than my SS/Fire/Mu where I just have to eat 2 purps and the rest damage). I was thinking about elec/fire or claws/fire. The idea in elec/fire would be to use Burn, CI, TS and LRod (with BU since I can only put 4 dam/rech on LR). But maybe a Claws/fire is better? Fu to boost everything's damage, Spin, Burn, maybe Eviscerate. Thanks in advance. |
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1) Ion is literally better in every way, it does the same damage but hits more mobs by a very significant amount. It is also auto hit so it cannot miss like the other judgements.|
Originally Posted by Kioshi
I have two questions for you farming experts
1) ultra, why Ion? I have Pyronic, the rest is the same as yours on my SS/Fire/Mu 2) Am I being stupid for farming at +4/x8/bosses? I ticket cap before killing all the initial ambushes and clicking the glowie, I don't even get a Rage crash most times (it's a cheapish and secondary build, but with 100% rech plus t3 on everything you have). Or is it significantly better for influence than say, +3/x8 or +2/x8 with bosses? Maybe faster too since I ticket cap so fast? 3) Is it worth to put a dmg proc in Burn? 4) I want to level lock a farmer at 33 to get 33 recipes since they sell well. So what'd you suggest? I don't think Claws/Elec (25 now) is that great especially since you die easily on TopDoc's lowbie farm if you're not careful (ok not that I die a lot, but I have to pay way more attention than my SS/Fire/Mu where I just have to eat 2 purps and the rest damage). I was thinking about elec/fire or claws/fire, since I won't be able to get insane rech unless I put purps I might do it on +1/x8 or even less. The idea in elec/fire would be to use Burn, CI, TS and LRod (with BU since I can only put 4 dam/rech on LR). But maybe a Claws/fire is better? Fu to boost everything's damage, Spin, Burn, maybe Eviscerate. Thanks in advance. |
2) It doesn't really make a lot of differenec if you are just going for the ticket cap. If you notice a difference you are very perceptive - the difference is literally in the 1-2s range.
3) Most definitely.
4) Definitely Claws/Fire, you get everything awesome from fire and you have enough aoes for a full attack chain at 33. Nothing else even comes close.
Thanks a lot for the feedback. Guess I'll have to go iTrialing again with the main build for the next 2-3 days to get t3 Ion (and while I'm at that, thinking about the T3 Carnival pet - I already have it, but I have the version with the Ring Mistress and attacking Seneschal, so not much effort necessary to get the untouchable seneschal, she gives some buffs, not a priority of course 
So what AE missions will be good after the ambush change. Would really like for my in progress brute on my second account that im loading up on purples and pure recharge doesnt go to waste. Want a means to level at a reasonable rate.
Ambush nerf should hurt those running at lower levels, but won't really make a difference for +4 farmers. Just throw in 2 ambushes and patrols and you should still cap in the same amount of time.
TW/Elec Optimization
Ticket cap is irrelevant for powerleveling...
So would ambush farms be the quickest way to PL even after the nerf, or would other methods be more effective now?
Has anyone even tried Dual Blades/FA? Wow is so sick.. I just lvled it doing the lvl 1 farm. I need a pboa attack under lvl 6.. Its mostly the only one that can hit 10 targets and has a descent cd. I did that till lvl 40.. Then I started doing the Burn the Witchs Fire farm..SO easy.. The mobs die so damn fast because of all the aoe DB/FA has plus the status effects that you can add on to them.. At lvl 48 I started doing +3. I had 90% Fire res before I hit lvl 30. With doing the +3's at that lvl I needed the Purples to keep me up. But they were dieing and I did that till 50. At 50 I did +4's. all SO's. I had to use purples to fill the defense gap but man the mobs were dieing so fast... It got to the point where everytime i used a aoe another would be up. I got Burn to the point where when it was off cd the last burn was just done.. I'm in the process of making another Brute (free to play) to farm my main (VIP).... So I wanna try another combo.. I need a good Aoe that does damage from lvl 6 and under and a good recharge...... SS is not it..
You no this new change to ambush's is nothen lol.. All you gotta do is kill all the mobs and the 2 ambush's then leave and start the farm over again.. lol... the devs make me laugh sometimes.. There not changing anything. Its like there saying they don't want us in there for that long....No change at all... Also on some of these farm maps you don't even need amuchs's
A friend and i did some math, and if its right getting someone to 50 will now take 4 hours rather than 3.
But that would need some testing, and i plan to do quite a bit to min/max my map (FIRE!) again.
So yeah, its a change and its their but it wont kill us off.
"I have ridden the mighty moon worm!"
-Al Gore
Fiery Aura is only good for farming, I'm cereal
@Caucasiafro
Are the changes going to affect how quickly SS/Fire's hit 750? I s/l farm with my Warshade, he was clocking just over 2 minutes a run but when the rezzes got nerfed and I switched to /SR enemies he slowed down to around 3 minutes. I farm to 750 and reset, 53 with bosses goes a little faster than 54's.
If you can run at +4/x8 i dont think it will affect ticket rates, as long as the mish is set up to have less ambushs, not by a lot anyway.
"I have ridden the mighty moon worm!"
-Al Gore
Fiery Aura is only good for farming, I'm cereal
@Caucasiafro
I saw this. Can anyone give me a good build for fire farms im a SS/Fire Aura Brute TY . Or can someone email it to me to malvinsky@aol.com too ty very much or post it here
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Financial Flea: Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(7), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(29)
Level 2: Haymaker -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(9), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 4: Blazing Aura -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(21), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Sciroc-Dam%(23)
Level 6: Healing Flames -- Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(A), Mrcl-EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(25), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Mrcl-Heal(27), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(13), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 10: Temperature Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 14: Boxing -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(15), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(15), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(17), Stpfy-KB%(17)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Aegis-ResDam(31)
Level 18: Rage -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 20: Consume -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), EndMod-I(37)
Level 22: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Aegis-ResDam(37)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 26: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(33), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(34), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(34), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(34), Mocking-Rchg(36)
Level 28: Burn -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(42), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), FrcFbk-Rechg%(43)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix -- Heal-I(A)
Level 41: Electrifying Fences -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(A), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(43), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rng(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 44: Ball Lightning -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(A), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rng(46), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 47: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 50: Spiritual Radial Boost
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- QckFt-RunSpd(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(50)
thank you ultrawatt for going through the math and updating your map. Really appreciate it. Looks like work on my pure recharge brute will continue. Gotta get him those purples.
So whats the word on TW/Fire?
Does it compete with our famous SS/Fire?
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TW/Fire does quite well. My bud and I run a dual farm sometimes and he deffo can keep up with my SS/Fire.
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I seem to recall a post with insp combine macros. Can anyone point it out for me? I really could use those for red insps madness.
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TW/Fire does quite well. My bud and I run a dual farm sometimes and he deffo can keep up with my SS/Fire.
OFF Topic: I seem to recall a post with insp combine macros. Can anyone point it out for me? I really could use those for red insps madness. |
Here is that guide by Micro, great piece...
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=125603
"Forum PvP doesn't give drops. Just so all of you who participated in this thread are aware." -Mod08-
"when a stalker goes blue side, assassination strike should be renamed "bunny hugs", and a rainbow should fly out" -Harbinger-
Dont post the best maps and the times it took please. Thats like going to the market forums and saying "THIS IS THE BEST" ((Everyone would buy it, making the "Best" item, now worthless
Also I really doubt the AE arc folks will ever get what they want, regardless whether or not AE is used for farming, it is a fairly safe bet people won't be using it for story arcs.