Tips for getting Incarnate Salvage
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Posted on: 2011-01-11 21:46 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I thought the bombs were level 30. I know the Rikti Heavy Assault Mech EBs are 50 though.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Okay, this is a borderline exploit, so it will probably be fixed at some point.
EBs have a significantly higher chance of dropping shards. Rikti Bombs are EBs. |
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Trust me, the bombs drop shards.|
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
I thought the bombs were level 30. I know the Rikti Heavy Assault Mech EBs are 50 though.
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So do invasion rikti, although at the usual rate for thier mob rank.
Probably a bug.
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I doubt it's a bug. Things that con as even level to a level 50 should drop shards. It's been confirmed multiple times that things that use the GM scaling code, such as invasion Rikti, apocalypse Zombies and Winter Realm Hordlings all drop shards - even the non-EBs. (I personally got a shard solo from a Winter Horde minion.)|
Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Trust me, the bombs drop shards.
So do invasion rikti, although at the usual rate for thier mob rank. Probably a bug. |
The bombs are EBs, and happen to actually be level 50 critters behind the GM scaling rules, meaning they can drop purples, for example. But because they use the GM scaling code, they should (and apparently do) drop shards for a level 50 character. Whether their shard drop rate is out of whack for what they are is a different matter.
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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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I alos find the level 50 tip missions work well solo. Due to the number of bosses.|
Originally Posted by Arnabas
I mostly solo due to my work schedule. It took me until last week to get enough shards to finally slot my Alpha. Now working on the 2nd tier, which I hope to be able to do by summer.
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In addition to a common and an uncommon (different branch) I have gained about 50 spare shards just running tips. (get 1-3 per 5 missions/day)
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As people have said, really, anything that involves killing lots of level 50s works for shards. Since the Alpha system was released, I've run maybe 10 TFs and 25 solo x5 tip missions on my Dominator, and she's gotten her Uncommon alpha and 37 additional shards.
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I ran into an odd bug (or maybe not) at the end of an ITF earlier this week.
I had 3 ancient nictus fragments (or whatever the incarnate ITF reward is called) banked, and when I tried to claim a 4th, the interface locked up and I wound up with nothing.
I bugged it but haven't heard back from customer support. Has anyone else run into it or am I crazy for running around with that much TF reward salvage banked?
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Your not alone, I usually get one half to two thirds of what my other taskforce mates typically get. |
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
IF Lady Luck hasn't seen fit to habitually take a dump on you from great height.
Got five over the whole thing while people were getting rare salvage and shards out the wazoo. Guy on the one I ran the night before to get my Crab to 50 got 12. I think it's a curse |
Well at least its in line with the family motto: Murphy was an optimist.
If your soloing bosses (IIRC) Marcian they will drop for every 150 or so defeated so make sure they are turned on in any event.
I kinda wish you could buy them at the Cauldron or Fort Trident, it takes two days to get an alignment merit and sometimes I dont see a shard drop for the same amount of time so why not?
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Originally Posted by Ice_Wall
I got like 57 shards on the Praetorian TF the other day. Try that
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That's odd. I have 4 of those on one character.
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Originally Posted by Divus
I ran into an odd bug (or maybe not) at the end of an ITF earlier this week.
I had 3 ancient nictus fragments (or whatever the incarnate ITF reward is called) banked, and when I tried to claim a 4th, the interface locked up and I wound up with nothing. I bugged it but haven't heard back from customer support. Has anyone else run into it or am I crazy for running around with that much TF reward salvage banked? |
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Originally Posted by Noxilicious
Personally my highest amount shard gotten in a TF was 13 in a 'cuda SF, but that's mostly thanks to the ambush that never ends in the final mission.
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I go to the RWZ with my characters that don't do well on missions set to x6 and higher. Lots of bosses and Lieutenants, fewer piddly minions for a character with less than awesome AoE damage to wade through. Plus, you know, alien invaders and all. I like killing them almost as much as Nazis. And you get Vanguard merits for the Gr'ai Matter if you don't like ship raids.
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Originally Posted by UberGuy
I doubt it's a bug. Things that con as even level to a level 50 should drop shards. It's been confirmed multiple times that things that use the GM scaling code, such as invasion Rikti, apocalypse Zombies and Winter Realm Hordlings all drop shards - even the non-EBs. (I personally got a shard solo from a Winter Horde minion.)
The bombs are EBs, and happen to actually be level 50 critters behind the GM scaling rules, meaning they can drop purples, for example. But because they use the GM scaling code, they should (and apparently do) drop shards for a level 50 character. Whether their shard drop rate is out of whack for what they are is a different matter. |
Fact is, Rikti Bombs are stupidly easy to kill for a level 50, and have around a 1/10 chance of dropping a shard. The only drawback is I have to wait for someone to complete a LGTF then scramble to the zone as quickly as possible. But if it's still like this for the next invasion event it will be easy to collect hundreds of shards.
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Twas my attempt at sarcastic humor, what with no Praetorian TF and all...
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Originally Posted by Ironik
No you did not.
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I solo ran my /sr scrapper through Unai kemen's arc via ouroboros at +1 x8 difficulty, treating every map like a "kill all" mish. Got enough shards to make a whole uncommon alpha.
... and I will never EVER subject myself to that again.
OP: There's no trick to it at all. Just keep running ITFs and LGTFs until you have the number of shards you need. Running almost any other TF to get salvage is rubbish.
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My wife and I ran an Khan, ITF and then a Lady Grey in rapid succession.
Her character went from unslotted to common, to uncommon (including buying one Grai Matter), with a few (5 IIRC) shards left over.
My character went from common, to uncommon with 15 shards (plus a Hero 1 common component) banked towards the eventual rare tier.
3 (maybe 4) TFs to get to uncommon from a standing start.
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itfs are nice. i also have had luck with rwz runs, not only do you get between 4-6 shards (though last sunday i got slammed by the rng and got 1!) plus you can generally get enough v-merits for a grai matter(used in spirituals and cardiacs) and enough to get a vanguard robot core too, which can give you some extra punch for other stuff. depending on your g-card that may stink, but i have to admit, a well done msr is a generally epic experience.
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I confirm this with my own experience and I speed my tips too. Pick missions where you have to kill a boss, which for my ebil toons, a hero. I usually get a couple kill hero tips. Any tip that involves Longbow has good drops too. |
Originally Posted by Catwhoorg
I find the level 50 tip missions work well solo. Due to the number of bosses. (get 1-3 per 5 missions/day)
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If you can't get on an ITF, do the missions in Cim from Sis Arlia or that General guy near the fountain. Set for at least +1x8 if you can handle it.
For vills, Liberate TV gives good drops. My friend reports 1 shard per 2 mobs.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
IF Lady Luck hasn't seen fit to habitually take a dump on you from great height.
Got five over the whole thing while people were getting rare salvage and shards out the wazoo. Guy on the one I ran the night before to get my Crab to 50 got 12. I think it's a curse |
Oh Tech then I know you will absolutely hate me for telling you I joined an All VEAT ITF the other night and about 2 mobs in I had a purplr recipes drop.. Not one of the biggies I have sold purples for as much as 200 -300 million while this went for only 30 million. My Crab Spider seems to be a purple recipe magnent and is rapidly approaching 2 billion on hand. She is my main and my badger so we wou't even discuss how many shards and extra components she has in preparation for the rare and very rare slots to open up.
Yeah unfortunately shard drops like everything else vary from team member to team member. I've walked away from a TF with 9 or 10 while others were only saying they'd gotten 6 .. and I have been the one on the low end as well. To the OP.. Just keep playing it all evens out LOL
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Originally Posted by Divus
I ran into an odd bug (or maybe not) at the end of an ITF earlier this week.
I had 3 ancient nictus fragments (or whatever the incarnate ITF reward is called) banked, and when I tried to claim a 4th, the interface locked up and I wound up with nothing. I bugged it but haven't heard back from customer support. Has anyone else run into it or am I crazy for running around with that much TF reward salvage banked? |
Well I play my Crab Spider a LOT lately and she has around 150 shards 6 Ancient Nictus, 5 Hero One Dna , 3 Essence of the Incarnate, 3 Dimentional Keystones and 3 Gr'ai Matter. I have never had a problem getting an end of TF drop.. By chance had you done the same TF recently? There is an 18-20 hour waiting period (I can never remember which) between.. do the same TF in less and it simply won't award you a component but you should still get the option for Reward Merits.
And NO I don't think your crazy.. we have no idea yet what it will cost in the way of shards and components to fill those Rare and very rare slots and I know plenty of players stockpiling so they can slot ASAP
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Okay, I will share my other shard gathering tip:
I have been solo farming the Defeat Lady Winter mission on x8 players.*
*This stratagy is not guaranteed so effective if you are not an Ice/Energy tanker.
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I mostly solo and have been doing tip missions since those seem to have a decent number of bosses in them. After running 9 tip missions (plus two non-tip missions) I still only have the single shard I got from Ramiel's arc. Am I just unlucky?
I don't think this particular charcter can handle the difficutly set to x5, otherwise I'd try that.
It certainly helps when soloing for shards to be able to fight as many mobs at a time as possible, which does give an advantage to certain classes and builds.
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3 ITFS only 3 shards. talk about bad luck. Then a STF i got 2. Its frustrating
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Probably. I was street sweeping in PI last night looking for tips and had two Nemesis troops drop them consecutively.
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Originally Posted by Red_Raccoon
I mostly solo and have been doing tip missions since those seem to have a decent number of bosses in them. After running 9 tip missions (plus two non-tip missions) I still only have the single shard I got from Ramiel's arc. Am I just unlucky?
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Okay, this is a borderline exploit, so it will probably be fixed at some point.
EBs have a significantly higher chance of dropping shards.
Rikti Bombs are EBs.
I really should do something about this signature.