January 2011 Producer's Letter to the Community


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Actually, I'm just incredibly busy. Positron says my red name should have been "Double Booked".


 

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Originally Posted by Second Measure View Post
Actually, I'm just incredibly busy. Positron says my red name should have been "Double Booked".
Just ask Avatea nicely to change it, and I'm sure she would.

Michelle
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I've only gotten to page 2 of this thread, but just needed to say this quickly:

I'm really encouraged that the devs have a new resolution to communicate more with the community, and that the watchword is inclusiveness for the endgame (though time will tell if the balance between challenging and fun vs challenging and frustrating is gotten right)...

...but please, oh God, save us from the NCsoft launcher. Please make it optional to use it. I liked the CoH launcher once it started switching between ports that weren't typical peer to peer network related (as my ISP throttles those ports severely).

In comparison, I've had to use the NCsoft launcher for Tabula Rasa, Exteel, Dungeon Runners and Aion. TR had issues with the download, but some fighting with the launcher got it working. Exteel and DR were ok...

...but Aion... ah, Aion started working properly and then rapidly went down the drain when I stopped the game for six months, then tried updating it for the double xp weekends. To this day, it still gives a version number error, useless help info - something akin to "unable to download correct version manifest, the server may be under maintenance, please try again later" and refuses to patch. I've no clue what it is up to, the NCsoft support knowledgebase has nothing on the error, it might possibly be because my version numbers are too backdated for it. If I were driven enough, I might debug my way through the obstacle. But I really can't be bothered. I rather not play the game and save money by not subscribing.

That is not something you want your on-the-fence CoH players to feel while choosing between the three superhero MMO games now out on the market. Get them into the interesting game fast and quick, not playing the debug patch error game.


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...but Aion... ah, Aion started working properly and then rapidly went down the drain when I stopped the game for six months, then tried updating it for the double xp weekends. To this day, it still gives a version number error, useless help info - something akin to "unable to download correct version manifest, the server may be under maintenance, please try again later" and refuses to patch. I've no clue what it is up to, the NCsoft support knowledgebase has nothing on the error, it might possibly be because my version numbers are too backdated for it. If I were driven enough, I might debug my way through the obstacle. But I really can't be bothered. I rather not play the game and save money by not subscribing.
Have you considered a fresh install?


 

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First off, my friendliest of welcomes to Second Measure!

I'm very pleased that communication with the community has been deemed important by the developer team. It's something that I'm sure almost all of us at the boards consider a step in the right direction.

It's all very well moving forward and fighting the competition with new systems and bigger and better things, but is there any word on older topics being brought into the game? Further powerset proliferation? Power pool, epic AT, or epic pool colourisation? Have there been any advances in allowing us power customisation in AE (my personal want)? The same tech copied over to Doppelgangers? These are the sorts of things I hope to be hearing about as a player. The new end-game content and such has made many people very happy, but some of us are hoping for things we got a while ago to be added to and developed.

Again, very happy to hear that communication is important to you as well as us. My thanks for the letter, and I look forward to reading more of them in the future.


 

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At the risk of sidelining the thread, no. If I delete 10 gigs worth of Aion off my PC, it will get replaced with a Steam game or another MMO of that size, rather than sit through NCsoft launcher installation once more. I download at speeds of 1-2 MB/sec on Steam, 200kb/sec using CoH launcher, and about 50-150kb/sec using NCsoft's launcher.

Um... in a vain attempt to steer this post back to questions for Second Measure...

Does the hinted at "furry" pack contain hunched over, beast-like running animation? If so, you can have my pre-order for it right now. :P

Hmm... It's really really hard to think of questions when we have nothin' concrete for the future. Waiting for I19.5 news? Check. Waiting for I20? Check. Waiting for more Praetoria additions? Check. Waiting for more hints of epic storyline? Check. All covered already, and the answer seems to be wait for us to tell you more.

Hmm... Big red ball?


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The NCsoft launcher is garbage.
THIS!


Stoked about the rest of it though.


 

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Originally Posted by Second Measure View Post
Actually, I'm just incredibly busy. Positron says my red name should have been "Double Booked".
Measure Twice cut onces..I think it goes something like that.


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Originally Posted by Lycaeus View Post
...but Aion... ah, Aion started working properly and then rapidly went down the drain when I stopped the game for six months, then tried updating it for the double xp weekends. To this day, it still gives a version number error, useless help info - something akin to "unable to download correct version manifest, the server may be under maintenance, please try again later" and refuses to patch. I've no clue what it is up to, the NCsoft support knowledgebase has nothing on the error, it might possibly be because my version numbers are too backdated for it. If I were driven enough, I might debug my way through the obstacle. But I really can't be bothered. I rather not play the game and save money by not subscribing.
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Originally Posted by Hydrofoil_Zero View Post
Have you considered a fresh install?
You could also try the 'Repair (Consistency Check)' option in the pick list when you right click on the game name in the Launcher.


 

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For The Love Of God, NO NcSoft lanucher!!!!!!!
If it ain't broke dont fix it and our little no frills luncher aint broke, its perfect.


 

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For The Love Of God, NO NcSoft lanucher!!!!!!!
If it ain't broke dont fix it and our little no frills luncher aint broke, its perfect.
Well, it's not perfect, but it's not Jabba the Hutt either. The NCSoft Launcher basically is (bloated, messy, slow, and difficult to deal with.) I'd guess it's a marketing mandate, so they have a single place to feed ads and "buy this game" news. I wouldn't be surprised if ArenaNet has gotten a memo "requesting" that Guild Wars be fixed up for the Launcher, too.


 

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Service with a Smile: In recent years we’ve worked hard to not just give you all ever-more-engaging content, but also to continue to improve everyone’s overall experience playing City of Heroes and Villains. Often this comes from updating old content but also in improvements to the way you interact with the game. For example, we are currently working to integrate City of Heroes into the NCsoft Launcher, which will bring with it a significant improvement to the process of downloading and updating the game for all NA and EU (Mac and PC) customers. One of the immediate benefits is that all of our customers will finally benefit from the same launcher and the most up-to-date information; this is the first step in bringing our communities together.
If you want to make me smile, DUMP these plans to integrate City of Heroes into the NCSoft Launcher. It is a bloated piece of crapware with very poor performance. Either that, or continue to support the current, fast, tiny, and efficient City of Heroes updater while you struggle with the tech issues in integrating City of Heroes into the crapware that is NCSoft's "all in one" game updater and launcher.


 

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Originally Posted by Starcloud View Post
If you want to make me smile, DUMP these plans to integrate City of Heroes into the NCSoft Launcher. It is a bloated piece of crapware with very poor performance. Either that, or continue to support the current, fast, tiny, and efficient City of Heroes updater while you struggle with the tech issues in integrating City of Heroes into the crapware that is NCSoft's "all in one" game updater and launcher.
I have no experience with the NCSoft launcher, but the current CoH launcher is none of the things you summed up. It actually uses a lot of resources for what it does.


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the difference in huge. I have tried the NCSoft launcher at different times over the past 4 years. Every time I have started a new install. The last time is worked less than half the time and I found it an unneeded step to get to the game I wanted to play. Again, please don't make this mandatory!


 

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I used the NCSoft Launcher for TR, Xteel, and Dungeonrunners and loathed it constantly. The CoX Launcher/Updater works just fine and isn't annoyingly slow.


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I used the NCSoft Launcher for TR, Xteel, and Dungeonrunners and loathed it constantly. The CoX Launcher/Updater works just fine and isn't annoyingly slow.
Agreed. The NCsoft launcher for Aion *sucked* - please do not bring it here.


 

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You could also try the 'Repair (Consistency Check)' option in the pick list when you right click on the game name in the Launcher.
First thing I tried. Didn't work either.

Appreciate the free tech support, but I brought it up to highlight that the NCsoft launcher generates frustration over goodwill. If I really get the urge to play the other game again, I can Google and manual patch my way to victory eventually.


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I have no experience with the NCSoft launcher, but the current CoH launcher is none of the things you summed up. It actually uses a lot of resources for what it does.
Fast, tiny, efficient are relative words. That most people who have experience with both think the CoH launcher is efficient and the NCSoft launcher is slow and bloated should tell you all you need to know.


 

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Welcome aboard, Second Measure.

Also, throw my hat into the "Make the NCSoft loader optional" ring. My experience with it has been terrible.


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Originally Posted by Texarkana View Post
Welcome aboard, Second Measure.

Also, throw my hat into the "Make the NCSoft loader optional" ring. My experience with it has been terrible.
This.

If it's not broken, please don't fix it. I really like the CoH Loader thing, and I don't think it needs to be changed. AT ALL.


 

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Never mind hitting the BAF or Mother Mayhem's hospital or whatnot...

I think the next Praetorian Trial should be an all-out, guns-blazing, that-sucker-is-coming-DOWN raid on Cole's Tower in Nova Praetoria. Do it like the CoP - one team comes in from the roof (here comes Wardog and a bunch of Resistance as backup), one from the sewers (with Hatchet and Marty leading ghouls for backup), one through the front door (Ricochet and some friends), like the ultimate Mayhem Mission.

Desks and cubicles and computers exploding. Doors blowing off their hinges. Fire spreading like rumors on the forums. Battling your way through Powers Division, the PPD, the Seers, the Praetors, until you're face to face with the man himself.

"IT'LL BE ANARCHY!"

And the badge: "Look On My Works, Ye Mighty".

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I'll take this with a side of bacon and hash browns.

Oh yeah... Bye GF, hi SM!


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I just really hope the devs have finally realized that adding the same content over and over causes many to burn out. A 7 year old game should have more variety than this one. I was hoping we would see quicker result but oh well. I guess it might be time to break until i20.


 

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I just really hope the devs have finally realized that adding the same content over and over causes many to burn out. A 7 year old game should have more variety than this one. I was hoping we would see quicker result but oh well. I guess it might be time to break until i20.
I'd rather they take their time and get stuff right instead of adding stuff at a pace that increases bugs (looks at a few other mmos).


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I would like to add my own 2 cents now: The NCSoft Launcher is a piece of garbage. I used it when I tried eXteel, and it was CRAP.

PLEASE! I BEG you. Do NOT make this a manditory thing! So far, from what I have read, the only people supporting the change to the NCSoft Launcher are people who have never used it.

Also, good by GF and Hello SM.

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