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This. I've played totally free online games. I wanted to kill most of the players for being rude, inconsiderate, foul mouthed idiots.
It will be "free"* as soon as they don't want my business anymore. $15 a month is a small price to keep all the rabble out.
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Free MMOs aren't; micro transactions for everything from ATs and power sets to equipment etc are appreciable add-on costs.
I started this game because I prefer a fixed cost per month. If I want to grab a booster I can but it's optional. The issues are free updates. Two paid expansions (CoV and GR) in the life of this game is infrequent enough for me to accept. Unlike another MMO which seems to have level-cap raising, area expanding paid expansions every month.
Will CoX last forever? Probably not, but I don't see it as on it's deathbed and that's the time it would go f2p. At that time, I suspect the micro transactions would start in, the most loyal players would leave and the game go offline as a result of f2p.
For me 15/month per account (I have two) is worthwhile for:
* many AT/power combinations
* fun of levelling
* task forces
* Oro'ing missed arcs
* badging
* base editing
* costume editing
* whatever load of stuff I 've forgot about
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I think you are probably thinking of a specific other mmo that is slated to go ftp around the time another specific mmo launches. That mmo going ftp is a simple act of desperation. It failed to 'kill' CoX and is in serious danger of dying completely when a competitor with a MUCH better known IP gets going.
I just read that other mmos become free after a while when do you think this one will.
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CoX isn't in that kind of danger. It has a strong and loyal player base (being one of those games that shows you don't have to have WoW level subscription numbers to be successful) and a very different play style (it isn't a console game at heart like the upcoming MMO).
As a side note about that other (already existing) game: I detected a strong scent of DOOOOOOM about it when it offered a lifetime subscription that was only available if purchased before launch. That sort of deal is a sure sign that a company doesn't expect to get much money from you unless they get it up front.
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If this game ever needs to be reorganized under a F2P model in order to save it then something fundamentally "bad" would have had to have happened to prompt that change. It's certainly possible that, under those circumstances, a F2P scheme could keep this game afloat for quite a while afterwards. But I sincerely doubt it would ever be considered a "boost". At best it would be a desperate stop-gap tourniquet to keep this game from financially bleeding to death.
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I think it is funny how people who warned of this were told to sit down a shut up because they didn't know what they were talking about. A month after launch people were demanding their money back from their lifetime subs.
As a side note about that other (already existing) game: I detected a strong scent of DOOOOOOM about it when it offered a lifetime subscription that was only available if purchased before launch. That sort of deal is a sure sign that a company doesn't expect to get much money from you unless they get it up front.
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Does recognizing the original sources for all of these make me a hopeless geek?
http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes#
Possibly. i will now pretend that i did not recognize said sources.
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Why should he apologize for being right?
Wrong on all accounts? Maybe you missed a couple of critical words in that. Let me highlight them:
How in the world did you turn Rumors and For all we know turn into I am making a definitive statement that I am wrong about on all accounts. More importantly, how did repeating what I've heard other players claim turn into speculation of my own? On top of that, if you are claiming that I'm wrong on all accounts on the subject that NCSoft had different development houses develop sequel titles to their games... Um. ArenaNet did Guild Wars 1 and is working on Guild Wars 2. Same development house. NCSoft did Lineage 1 and 2 internally with the same executive producer So, really DumpleBerry, what's the point of your post? As best as I can tell, you didn't read what I wrote, and jumped off to some kind of conclusion all on your own. Right off hand, you need to issue me an apology for that jump. |
Unless you work for Paragon, you don't know why people are leaving, and you shouldn't speculate (or re-post "someone else's" rumors).
If you do work for Paragon, I'm sure you've probably overstepped your authority to comment on said migrations, and again, you shouldn't say anything.
If you don't subscribe to the rumor you just put your name to when you posted it, why'd you post it in the first place?
Castle, BAB, and Ocho, among others, deserve better than to have the rumor mill churning behind them.
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I just threw a duck into a pond and the duck floated. That means she's a witch, right?
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I don't even know why I have to do it.
Actually, I kinda know, but am not currently employed by NCSoft.
Which is why, out of respect for them I make sure any rumor I invent about their departure is suitably epic.
For example, I heard the other day that this whole thing is Castle's fault. One day Castle decided to redesign Fireball so that every time someone used it, the game servers deposited a penny into his retirement account (ever wondered why fireball has such a short cast time? now you know). Castle figured in a few years he could have retired sitting pretty. But then datamining showed that blasters were dying too quickly and not using fireball enough. The ones that were not dying had such high defiance buffs that they were one-shotting everything and not using fireball enough. So he reduced the damage buff of defiance, and made blasters partially mez-immune. This helped greatly, but then blasters starting doing so well that blasters were using hundreds of thousands of fireballs. Pretty soon NCSoft didn't even have enough money to pay BaB and had to let him go, much to his surprise. At that point Castle knew the game was up and by year's end the auditors would catch up with him. Knowing that his finances were being monitored he transferred his ill-gotten gains to an offshore account under the name of an accomplice. Castle would then leave Paragon Studios and his accomplice, citing new opportunities out of state, would leave California and meet up with him in Aruba a few weeks later where they would split all that perk pack money.
And that, people, is why blasters were buffed.
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Unless you work for Paragon, you don't know why people are leaving, and you shouldn't speculate (or re-post "someone else's" rumors). If you do work for Paragon, I'm sure you've probably overstepped your authority to comment on said migrations, and again, you shouldn't say anything. |
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For example, I heard the other day that this whole thing is Castle's fault. One day Castle decided to redesign Fireball so that every time someone used it, the game servers deposited a penny into his retirement account (ever wondered why fireball has such a short cast time? now you know). Castle figured in a few years he could have retired sitting pretty. But then datamining showed that blasters were dying too quickly and not using fireball enough. The ones that were not dying had such high defiance buffs that they were one-shotting everything and not using fireball enough. So he reduced the damage buff of defiance, and made blasters partially mez-immune. This helped greatly, but then blasters starting doing so well that blasters were using hundreds of thousands of fireballs. Pretty soon NCSoft didn't even have enough money to pay BaB and had to let him go, much to his surprise. At that point Castle knew the game was up and by year's end the auditors would catch up with him. Knowing that his finances were being monitored he transferred his ill-gotten gains to an offshore account under the name of an accomplice. Castle would then leave Paragon Studios and his accomplice, citing new opportunities out of state, would leave California and meet up with him in Aruba a few weeks later where they would split all that perk pack money.
And that, people, is why blasters were buffed.
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I love it.
I don't even know why I have to do it.
Actually, I kinda know, but am not currently employed by NCSoft. Which is why, out of respect for them I make sure any rumor I invent about their departure is suitably epic. For example, I heard the other day that this whole thing is Castle's fault. One day Castle decided to redesign Fireball so that every time someone used it, the game servers deposited a penny into his retirement account (ever wondered why fireball has such a short cast time? now you know). Castle figured in a few years he could have retired sitting pretty. But then datamining showed that blasters were dying too quickly and not using fireball enough. The ones that were not dying had such high defiance buffs that they were one-shotting everything and not using fireball enough. So he reduced the damage buff of defiance, and made blasters partially mez-immune. This helped greatly, but then blasters starting doing so well that blasters were using hundreds of thousands of fireballs. Pretty soon NCSoft didn't even have enough money to pay BaB and had to let him go, much to his surprise. At that point Castle knew the game was up and by year's end the auditors would catch up with him. Knowing that his finances were being monitored he transferred his ill-gotten gains to an offshore account under the name of an accomplice. Castle would then leave Paragon Studios and his accomplice, citing new opportunities out of state, would leave California and meet up with him in Aruba a few weeks later where they would split all that perk pack money. And that, people, is why blasters were buffed. |
Hmmm....I always thought that "Two Days, Two Nights" did that in a better and more subtle way.
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Oh I'm telling him you said that.
For example, I heard the other day that this whole thing is Castle's fault. One day Castle decided to redesign Fireball so that every time someone used it, the game servers deposited a penny into his retirement account (ever wondered why fireball has such a short cast time? now you know). Castle figured in a few years he could have retired sitting pretty. But then datamining showed that blasters were dying too quickly and not using fireball enough. The ones that were not dying had such high defiance buffs that they were one-shotting everything and not using fireball enough. So he reduced the damage buff of defiance, and made blasters partially mez-immune. This helped greatly, but then blasters starting doing so well that blasters were using hundreds of thousands of fireballs. Pretty soon NCSoft didn't even have enough money to pay BaB and had to let him go, much to his surprise. At that point Castle knew the game was up and by year's end the auditors would catch up with him. Knowing that his finances were being monitored he transferred his ill-gotten gains to an offshore account under the name of an accomplice. Castle would then leave Paragon Studios and his accomplice, citing new opportunities out of state, would leave California and meet up with him in Aruba a few weeks later where they would split all that perk pack money.
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For example, I heard the other day that this whole thing is Castle's fault. One day Castle decided to redesign Fireball so that every time someone used it, the game servers deposited a penny into his retirement account (ever wondered why fireball has such a short cast time? now you know). Castle figured in a few years he could have retired sitting pretty. But then datamining showed that blasters were dying too quickly and not using fireball enough. The ones that were not dying had such high defiance buffs that they were one-shotting everything and not using fireball enough. So he reduced the damage buff of defiance, and made blasters partially mez-immune. This helped greatly, but then blasters starting doing so well that blasters were using hundreds of thousands of fireballs. Pretty soon NCSoft didn't even have enough money to pay BaB and had to let him go, much to his surprise. At that point Castle knew the game was up and by year's end the auditors would catch up with him. Knowing that his finances were being monitored he transferred his ill-gotten gains to an offshore account under the name of an accomplice. Castle would then leave Paragon Studios and his accomplice, citing new opportunities out of state, would leave California and meet up with him in Aruba a few weeks later where they would split all that perk pack money.
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You had better be careful . . . this is, after all, the Internet. Somebody is going to actually believe that fabrication and pass it around as being true. Especially coming from YOU, the teller of all truths (said in a respectful way).
I don't even know why I have to do it.
Actually, I kinda know, but am not currently employed by NCSoft. Which is why, out of respect for them I make sure any rumor I invent about their departure is suitably epic. For example, I heard the other day that this whole thing is Castle's fault. One day Castle decided to redesign Fireball so that every time someone used it, the game servers deposited a penny into his retirement account (ever wondered why fireball has such a short cast time? now you know). Castle figured in a few years he could have retired sitting pretty. But then datamining showed that blasters were dying too quickly and not using fireball enough. The ones that were not dying had such high defiance buffs that they were one-shotting everything and not using fireball enough. So he reduced the damage buff of defiance, and made blasters partially mez-immune. This helped greatly, but then blasters starting doing so well that blasters were using hundreds of thousands of fireballs. Pretty soon NCSoft didn't even have enough money to pay BaB and had to let him go, much to his surprise. At that point Castle knew the game was up and by year's end the auditors would catch up with him. Knowing that his finances were being monitored he transferred his ill-gotten gains to an offshore account under the name of an accomplice. Castle would then leave Paragon Studios and his accomplice, citing new opportunities out of state, would leave California and meet up with him in Aruba a few weeks later where they would split all that perk pack money. And that, people, is why blasters were buffed. |
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Oh, you mean like City of Heroes did before its launch?
As a side note about that other (already existing) game: I detected a strong scent of DOOOOOOM about it when it offered a lifetime subscription that was only available if purchased before launch. That sort of deal is a sure sign that a company doesn't expect to get much money from you unless they get it up front.
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You mean the other one.
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Back to the original topic of free-to-play, it seems that they're doing pretty good with it over at Turbine, what with LotRO's profits tripling since the move to F2P... And I hear that SOE's quite happy with how EQ2 is doing after introducing their F2P version of it, EQ2 Extended (well, F2P if you don't want to be able to chat with other people or have a mount or anything resembling inventory space :P).
Personally, I hope CoH stays subscription with the occasional new cash shop goodies pack.
i can find nothing anywhere that corroborates your claim that lifetime subscriptions have ever been available for City of Heroes. In light of there being no evidence to support your statement i have decided that it must be true.
See? i'm starting to get the hang of this rumor and doom stuff. Eventually i'll be making my own foil-lined hats and posting (even more) incoherent rants.
See? i'm starting to get the hang of this rumor and doom stuff. Eventually i'll be making my own foil-lined hats and posting (even more) incoherent rants.
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The layoff that included BAB was IIRC 8 people total. That's not unusual for a game house after a major initiative winds down. They have to keep staffing at a sustainable level. Besides, they've currently got reqs open for 5 permanent and 2 contract positions. Sounds more like they had to adjust where they were spending.
My guess is the people at the top were not happy with the dev team, probably because they were missing deadlines, specifically with going rogue. Coulda been something completely different, but you don't shake things up like that unless someone at the top wasn't happy with something.
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But you shouldn't include Castle or Ocho in the layoff group. Both of them specifically indicated they'd found better jobs.
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The game's been free-to-play since, oh let me see...July of 2007 I believe. Have you been paying a monthly fee all this time?
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