when will game be free?


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I interpreted this as regarding Paragon/NC employees. The post-GR layoffs that included BaB, Castle gone as of 2011, and most recently The Ocho.
Personally, I raised an eyebrow specifically after Castle announced his leaving. I became much less worried about the future of CoH/V and a lot more interested in the prospect of CoH/V 2. Those are some pretty high profile, trusted and well-liked people by this community all leaving in short succession. NCSoft has been smart, and if they wanted to cherry pick a group of developers who would entice veteran players on this forum pick up an additional subscription to another game, have the board's rock stars create it.


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I know, right? All the servers showing medium or heavy load every night is OBVIOUSLY a sign that the game is dying.
Just as a general point the server load levels are almost certainly entirely arbitrary (i.e. more than X players online is yellow, more than Y is red), it's entirely possible that the devs adjusted the breakpoints for different load levels in order to make the indicators actually have some value (since having all the servers green doesn't really help anyone). I have no clue whether that is the case or not but personally I always assume that sever loads indicators (in any game not just this one) are representative of the relative server loads at the time you view them but should be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to considering the total population over a period of time.

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I suggest the OP unsubscribe and wait until it does, so he doesn't waste any money.
An excellent idea!


 

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Are you Mrs. Swanson? My 3rd grade english teacher or just a grammar cop? I fear grammar cops they're usually ^%$)'s
No. I am not the Grammar Police.


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Personally, I raised an eyebrow specifically after Castle announced his leaving. I became much less worried about the future of CoH/V and a lot more interested in the prospect of CoH/V 2. Those are some pretty high profile, trusted and well-liked people by this community all leaving in short succession. NCSoft has been smart, and if they wanted to cherry pick a group of developers who would entice veteran players on this forum pick up an additional subscription to another game, have the board's rock stars create it.
I guess my problem with this concept is that it assumes that NCSoft would turn development of a City of Heroes 2 over to a different developer than Paragon Studios. Of the sequel titles NCSoft has funded the development of, specifically Lineage II and Guild Wars 2, both were developed by the development houses that created the original games in the first place. Ergo, there is no precedent to suggest that NCSoft would look to build or fund a separate development house for a sequel title.

I do not believe that F.Grubb has announced who picked him up, but there are a couple of rumors on where he's gone.
  • some say that C.Bruce over at Infogrames managed to work a deal that F.Grubb couldn't pass up.
  • some say S.O.E. offered F.Grubb a deal he couldn't pass up.
  • some say that EA headhunted F.Grubb for either Mythic or Bioware.
We'll know in a couple months probably were F.Grubb will wind up working, if he stays in the MMO business at all. For all we know he could be moving out to the East Coast to work on the next Tribes with Hi-Rez studios.


 

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Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf View Post
No. I am not the Grammar Police.
... there's a dream police parody to be made there...


 

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The game will be free when the development team decides they don't want to support the game anymore. In other words, when the game dies.


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Are you Mrs Swanson? My 3rd grade english teacher or just a gramer cop?
None of the above. I just couldn't resist poking fun at the compound failure asking this question with that grammar.


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I just read that other mmos become free after a while when do you think this one will.
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With all the folks leaving its got me wondering if thats what they are going to announce at some point.
Excellent points. i agree that if you're expecting or hoping for this that you should unsubscribe until it happens to save up your money so that you can afford all the microtransactions that will be required to be effective using an F2P character. Start saving now! Dooo eeet!

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Are you Mrs Swanson? My 3rd grade english teacher or just a gramer cop? I fear grammer cops there usually ^%$)'s
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The word should be "they're".

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go easy on him, Mrs Swanson was really tough for a 16 year old to deal with.
So, is this like a time travel thing and he's remembering her classes two years from now?
Or maybe i'm wrong, but i was pretty sure g_b is around 14 years old.


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The Game is always free. And because of you, I have just lost the game.
BAH!!!

I just lost too :'(




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Originally Posted by Profanation View Post
Personally, I raised an eyebrow specifically after Castle announced his leaving. I became much less worried about the future of CoH/V and a lot more interested in the prospect of CoH/V 2. Those are some pretty high profile, trusted and well-liked people by this community all leaving in short succession. NCSoft has been smart, and if they wanted to cherry pick a group of developers who would entice veteran players on this forum pick up an additional subscription to another game, have the board's rock stars create it.
Unlikely imo. First of all, how many people are on these boards and how many people consider the 3 devs who left to be 'rockstars'? Most of the actual players in this game would know very little about the actual devs in question.

Secondly, I don't remember bab leaving in a happy manner, looked pretty ugly to me from what I read at the time.

My guess is the people at the top were not happy with the dev team, probably because they were missing deadlines, specifically with going rogue. Coulda been something completely different, but you don't shake things up like that unless someone at the top wasn't happy with something. Shortly before that happened, many of the talkative devs, especially bab, suddenly stopped posting, probably after getting the unhappy vibe sent down from the higher ups. That is what probably led to the power shift that put war witch in power, and led to the firings/layoffs/quits that ensued since then.

Overall, they still seem to have quite a few employees relative to what they had just a few years ago, and according to their website, they are still hiring, so it might just be a case of trying to lower salary costs - using the young apprentices is a lot cheaper than using veterans.

GR and Ii9 have both been pretty good releases imo, so if they can keep the new stuff coming out relatively quickly, and the new stuff is as good as their recent work, I think the game can stay pretty strong. The recent competition that was so feared seems to have fallen on its face, again, imo. If ncsoft keeps putting in the effort, they can keep control of the superhero mmo market, which I wouldn't have thought was likely a couple years ago, and thats saying something for a game that is this old.


 

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With all the folks leaving its got me wondering if thats what they are going to announce at some point.
An amusingly esoteric way of illustrating the two possible meanings for the phrase "negative subscribers."


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My guess is the people at the top were not happy with the dev team, probably because they were missing deadlines, specifically with going rogue. Coulda been something completely different, but you don't shake things up like that unless someone at the top wasn't happy with something. Shortly before that happened, many of the talkative devs, especially bab, suddenly stopped posting, probably after getting the unhappy vibe sent down from the higher ups. That is what probably led to the power shift that put war witch in power, and led to the firings/layoffs/quits that ensued since then.
Backstories are always more interesting, and less interesting, than people tend to guess.


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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake View Post
go easy on him, Mrs Swanson was really tough for a 16 year old to deal with.
Especially after she caught him helping his father cheat on the English test.


 

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Especially after she caught him helping his father cheat on the English test.
This isn't one of those "I'd like you to meet my wife and sister" moments, is it?


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Or maybe i'm wrong, but i was pretty sure g_b is around 14 years old.
the crux of the joke was his language skills being at a 3rd grade level at age 16. though 14 fits as well. the general gist of the joke still works.


 

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Backstories are always more interesting, and less interesting, than people tend to guess.


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...so are you implying that War Witch is an evil empress who usurped power?


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...so are you implying that War Witch is an evil empress who usurped power?
Imply nothing! She's a WITCH!!! What more evidence did you need to

*ribbit*


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Originally Posted by graystar_blaster View Post
Are you Mrs Swanson? My 3rd grade english teacher or just a gramer cop? I fear grammer cops there usually ^%$)'s
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The word should be "they're".
I dunno. I just figured that they feared them at their third grade school and they just wanted to share that with the rest of us.

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Imply nothing! She's a WITCH!!! What more evidence did you need to

*ribbit*


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*ribbit?* *RIBBIT!* *RIBBIT!* *RIBBIT!*

(translation: mew it! She turned me into a Frog!)
She's hardly any kind of a REAL witch if she didn't turn you into a newt.

Of course, we could check. See, if she weighs as much as a duck...


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I guess my problem with this concept is that it assumes that NCSoft would turn development of a City of Heroes 2 over to a different developer than Paragon Studios. Of the sequel titles NCSoft has funded the development of, specifically Lineage II and Guild Wars 2, both were developed by the development houses that created the original games in the first place. Ergo, there is no precedent to suggest that NCSoft would look to build or fund a separate development house for a sequel title.

I do not believe that F.Grubb has announced who picked him up, but there are a couple of rumors on where he's gone.
  • some say that C.Bruce over at Infogrames managed to work a deal that F.Grubb couldn't pass up.
  • some say S.O.E. offered F.Grubb a deal he couldn't pass up.
  • some say that EA headhunted F.Grubb for either Mythic or Bioware.
We'll know in a couple months probably were F.Grubb will wind up working, if he stays in the MMO business at all. For all we know he could be moving out to the East Coast to work on the next Tribes with Hi-Rez studios.
There's also the whole, "It's inappropriate to speculate on this sort of thing, here."

If it helps, I've talked to your "F. Grubb" and you're wrong on all accounts.


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There's also the whole, "It's inappropriate to speculate on this sort of thing, here."

If it helps, I've talked to your "F. Grubb" and you're wrong on all accounts.
Wrong on all accounts? Maybe you missed a couple of critical words in that. Let me highlight them:

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I do not believe that F.Grubb has announced who picked him up, but there are a couple of rumors on where he's gone.
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For all we know he could be moving out to the East Coast
How in the world did you turn Rumors and For all we know turn into I am making a definitive statement that I am wrong about on all accounts.

More importantly, how did repeating what I've heard other players claim turn into speculation of my own?

On top of that, if you are claiming that I'm wrong on all accounts on the subject that NCSoft had different development houses develop sequel titles to their games...

Um. ArenaNet did Guild Wars 1 and is working on Guild Wars 2. Same development house. NCSoft did Lineage 1 and 2 internally with the same executive producer

So, really DumpleBerry, what's the point of your post?

As best as I can tell, you didn't read what I wrote, and jumped off to some kind of conclusion all on your own. Right off hand, you need to issue me an apology for that jump.


 

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I thought I was being specific, in referring to the bullet points. It was not meant as a wholesale attack on the entire post, just a statement about the bullet points. And if, as you said in both posts, they're just fluff rumors from the community, then we're doing the community a disservice by repeating them.


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She's hardly any kind of a REAL witch if she didn't turn you into a newt.

Of course, we could check. See, if she weighs as much as a duck...
Throw her into the pond!


 

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The thread title alone makes me twitch.


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