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Help me...help you.
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Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
Ugh this is purely ranting, sarcasm, & flame bait now.
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Between the arguments before there were people with posts which I believe were helpful. Now I'm retiring this thread.
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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
Actually mike, you are the one "trolling" here. Because you are not getting the responses you want you are resorting to arguing and trolling. The way you are going about recruiting is wrong. Accept that, change your ways and move on.
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You might have intended it as a joke, but the attitude you exhibit suggests it is true nonetheless. That's kind of why I attached an entire post to that half a sentence you quoted.
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Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
That sir was a joke. Kind of why I added the
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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One of the few wisdoms the internet has generated: do not feed the trolls.
I just logged on to one of my lowbies over on Virtue, redside. Within 90 seconds, I got a tell:
Unknown Recruiter: need SG?
Me: heya - not at the moment, but thanks for asking. :-)
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and I bet we can guess exactly who it was!
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Originally Posted by Flarstux
I just logged on to one of my lowbies over on Virtue, redside. Within 90 seconds, I got a tell:
Unknown Recruiter: need SG? Me: heya - not at the moment, but thanks for asking. :-) |
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Oh I think we know... and when I got that from our special somebody, my answer was, "not a chance".|
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I'm curious. What does the part I highlighted sound like on the phone? |
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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
Actually mike, you are the one "trolling" here. Because you are not getting the responses you want you are resorting to arguing and trolling. The way you are going about recruiting is wrong. Accept that, change your ways and move on.
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Conclude that it's a matter of opinion and no one is going to change theirs, accept that, and move on (ditch a now-pointless thread).
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Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
Oh and also, who here calls asking someone to join your SG threw a tell 'Spamming'?
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Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
How long has sending a private message at players leisure been considered 'spamming'
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By that original (and still highly relevant) definition, what you did was precisely spamming.
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I never bother with a), since hardly anyone actually uses the lft flags.|
Originally Posted by ketch
Also, if I receive a tell from someone looking for teammates it can be annoying if a.) my flag is not set as lft b.) I have not broadcast lft, and most importantly c.) when I am explicitly flagged as NOT lft. When sending out team invites I always follow the courtesy of asking only folks that have broadcast lft or are flagged as lft. In both cases, I send a tell first.
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I do check peoples search comments, and pay attention to c)
Regarding to b), broadcast spam is imo a horribly inefficient way to either recruit people or get recruited on a team yourself with it being restricted to 1 zone and all.
@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.
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Originally Posted by GhoulSlayer
If it were me I would be pissed at you too. To me this is just as annoying as a telemarketer. When I do spam for SG recruits I shout in broadcast 1x per zone. There is no reason to go begging individually like that.
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I have answered in EXACTLY that way before, too. It's bad enough that random people I don't know at all are looking to milk me for prestige, but the fact that I get these whispers when I'm already in an SG and they're not even in the same zone? Wow, they really don't care what particular meat they're scooping into the chute. Not only do they not know me, they haven't even laid eyes on me! That's taking impersonal to an extreme, and impersonal is not something I want in an SG!
Not sure why you guys are fueling the flame. I retired this thread. So don't expect any of my responses that you seem to crave.
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Not exactly a man of your word are you?
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Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
Not sure why you guys are fueling the flame. I retired this thread.
So don't expect any of my responses that you seem to crave. |
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Not gonna let you pull me in |
Originally Posted by LISAR
Not exactly a man of your word are you?
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and yet
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Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
Not gonna let you pull me in
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You retired from this thread. That's nice. We can still discuss whatever we want to discuss within the context of the existing thread without your input. So, um, go away? The adults are talking.
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Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
Not sure why you guys are fueling the flame. I retired this thread.
So don't expect any of my responses that you seem to crave. |
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You just did. Priceless. |
Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
Not gonna let you pull me in
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So, you started this thread, didn't get the kind of responses you expected, and now the thread is "retired"...|
Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
Not sure why you guys are fueling the flame. I retired this thread.
So don't expect any of my responses that you seem to crave. |
Classic.
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Never gonna pull me in,|
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Not gonna let you pull me in
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Never gonna let me down,
Never gonna blind invite and hurt you...
Never gonna look and see
Whether you've already got an SG
Never gonna run around and recruit you...
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You wouldn't have bothered me in the least. Are you breaking any of the rules or the code of conduct? No. None of these arguments about spam and politeness are all that important to me. It's about quality versus quantity, it's about whether or not I think our play-styles are a match. You'd be on my ignore list for your benefit as well as mine. |
Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike
Since I'm on Liberty I will never run the treacherous "Hey Need a SG?" into you. So that's a good thing in my opinion so I don't end up assaulting your mental state by those 'extremely annoying words'
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Someone sending me tells asking me to buy inf is spamming.
Someone sending a tell asking if I would like to join an SG is not spamming.
Maybe I'm just weird, but I don't get offended at being asked a question by someone else. When it comes to SG invites, my reply is always "no thanks" because I have two SG bases of my own to look after so all my characters go into my SG's.
Let me ask this question: if someone you don't know sends a tell asking if you'd like to team up, is that spamming? And if not, what's the difference? Both situations involve a complete stranger asking you a question completely unsolicited by you. Have we really gotten so insular as a community that all communication must be a certain way or it upsets us?
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Originally Posted by Steel_Shaman
Someone sending me tells asking me to buy inf is spamming.
Someone sending a tell asking if I would like to join an SG is not spamming. Maybe I'm just weird, but I don't get offended at being asked a question by someone else. When it comes to SG invites, my reply is always "no thanks" because I have two SG bases of my own to look after so all my characters go into my SG's. Let me ask this question: if someone you don't know sends a tell asking if you'd like to team up, is that spamming? And if not, what's the difference? Both situations involve a complete stranger asking you a question completely unsolicited by you. Have we really gotten so insular as a community that all communication must be a certain way or it upsets us? |
The content of the message isn't the spam nor does the number of people recieving the message determine if a message is spam. It's the speed at which the message is being sent out that makes it spam.
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Repeating the same message 100 times in 5 minutes is spam.
Repeating that same message once every 5 minutes is not spam.
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And sending the same message to everyone levels 1-10 you can find is?
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
The content of the message isn't the spam it's the speed at which the message is being sent out that makes it spam.
For example: Repeating the same message 100 times in 5 minutes is spam. Repeating that same message once every 5 minutes is not spam. |
Actually mike, you are the one "trolling" here. Because you are not getting the responses you want you are resorting to arguing and trolling. The way you are going about recruiting is wrong. Accept that, change your ways and move on.