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The IV mostly had me bugged there. We know it's been a while, as the flowers were dessicated. We don't know when the IV was last changed (and I don't recall if the bag still had anything in it, but then again, the monitor... whatever that thing's called they run them through now, had no power. I don't know what the effect of that would be.

The monitor/IV/etc may have shut off recently enough to keep him somewhat hydrated. *shrug* He did need water badly when he got up, of course.

Military? They're not seeing him walking. They see him inert in bed, so... not a threat. (And later they're probably too busy shooting to care.) The zombies? With whatever state he was in, he probably just didn't look like "food." Being (essentially) comatose, he wouldn't have made any noise or done anything to attract their attention. (And wasn't the door closed anyway?)
The IV drip doesn't run on electricity, so whenever the bag runs out, it's out. No more nutrition. The human body can only survive for a few days without water. Even with possible explanations, I still have an overall problem with how this was presented. And when you consider the whole scenario was handled much better in "28 Days Later," I have an even bigger problem with it.

I see what they're trying to do. We're seeing and learning things through the protagonist. I'm okay with that. They could have just set it all up better.

If this is their only real misstep, I'll be okay with the rest of the series.


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Feed did a good job explaining the hunger. They zombies needed flesh to convert into more of the virus to spread.
I've always thought of zombie hunger as nothing more than the ID taking over. As humans, at our most base level, we eat, excrete, sleep and die. Zombies don't appear to sleep. They'll have no control over their bowels. They're already dead. That leaves nothing but hunger. Edit: It's the last rudimentary desire: Consume.

The virus business is touched on in a nice way in the written series. I don't want to give it away here, though.


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I've always felt that zombies feed not for nutrition, but because the only thing in their barely-working (thanks to the infection) brains is the most basic instinct, to eat. That same brain doesn't realize that they no longer NEED to eat, too. This action leads to another very basic instinct as well, to reproduce. Thankfully through passing on the infection, rather than "bumping zombie uglies"...

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Bill Z beat me to the instinct thing...


 

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As a HUGE fan of the comic - I get the issues every month - I have to give this series my own 2 thumbs up and any other dried zombie thumbs I can collect as well. Brilliant! It sticks very close to the comic, with but a few added/slightly changed scenes that weren't needed in the comic but help move the story along on TV.

Got my DVR set to series record, and I won't miss a second if I can help it. My wife isn't a zombie-movie fan, and even she liked the show.


 

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I've always thought of zombie hunger as nothing more than the ID taking over. As humans, at our most base level, we eat, excrete, sleep and die. Zombies don't appear to sleep. They'll have no control over their bowels. They're already dead. That leaves nothing but hunger. Edit: It's the last rudimentary desire: Consume.

The virus business is touched on in a nice way in the written series. I don't want to give it away here, though.
Did you deliberately omit the 4th thing we "must" do which is #1 on many of our lists?

Granted none of the zombies trigger that desire.


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Granted none of the zombies trigger that desire.
Zombies saying "Touch my tra la la!" would be MUCH scarier than zombies saying "Braaaaaiiiins!"


 

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Did you deliberately omit the 4th thing we "must" do which is #1 on many of our lists?

Granted none of the zombies trigger that desire.
That's only required for a species' continued existence. The dead don't care about that.

Edit: Side thought about that: Get yourself into a situation someday when you are literally starving to death... nookie won't be on your mind.


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Late on posting my thoughts, but I loved it. I don't recall them being aware of usable objects, such as a door knob. I guess I am fine with that level of "intelligence." Can't wait for the crazier stuff that happens later on!


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That's only required for a species' continued existence. The dead don't care about that.

Edit: Side thought about that: Get yourself into a situation someday when you are literally starving to death... nookie won't be on your mind.
Yeah but by that same reasoning if you are suffocating then lunch won't be on your mind either.

Heck, right now I am not anywhere close to starvation and pizza keeps coming into my mind.


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Late on posting my thoughts, but I loved it. I don't recall them being aware of usable objects, such as a door knob. I guess I am fine with that level of "intelligence." Can't wait for the crazier stuff that happens later on!
I felt her use of the doorknob was special as was her method of looking around to really create doubt in her husband's mind about shooting her.

For me it raised the question "how much of her prior life did she mentally have any access to?"


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I have to say the production value and cinetography was the best I've ever seen in a TV Pilot. I hope they can keep it up in the series prior. I loved the comic series, and so far its sticking fairly close to it with few changes. After such awesomeness, I look forward to shows to come.


 

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High production value, well paced script (I assume that owes a lot to the source - never read the graphic novel myself), some excellent directing, and if the lead holds that level of acting throughout then this is a a winner.

Really enjoyed watching it, and my wife (who usually avoids zombie flicks) sat through the entire thing, which is noteworthy.


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The IV drip doesn't run on electricity, so whenever the bag runs out, it's out. No more nutrition. The human body can only survive for a few days without water. Even with possible explanations, I still have an overall problem with how this was presented.
That was a sticking point for me, as well. I chalk it up to ignorance more than anything else. This reaction from viewers is a great example of how audiences generally only buy into one unbelievable item and anything else cracks open the willing suspension of disbelief. Obviously this varies by person as some people just let it go and others demand attention to the littlest details. Generally most people will accept the big whopper (aliens have invaded, zombies are real, Arnold Schwarzenegger can act) but find little errors annoying.

As I've just recently been in the hospital, I'm familiar with the current IV machines like the one shown -- they run on electricity, but they have a battery backup that will last a day or so, according to the nurse who had to adjust mine. In Walking Dead the electricity in the hospital was not completely out (which I attributed to visual aesthetics) so that may be an out for some people to hang their hats on. I wasn't paying attention to the bag, but it was probably 1,000 ml. IV machines can regulate how quickly the fluid drips. A person can survive on as little as 500 ml per day (as has been done by people at sea) but he was in a coma in an undemanding environment, so he could probably do with a lot less.

So... big bag, slow drip, electricity lasts for quite some time to power the device.... plus, you know, it's a TV show about zombies.

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And when you consider the whole scenario was handled much better in "28 Days Later," I have an even bigger problem with it.

I see what they're trying to do. We're seeing and learning things through the protagonist. I'm okay with that. They could have just set it all up better.

If this is their only real misstep, I'll be okay with the rest of the series.
28 Days Later was the most interesting and original take on the zombie idea in quite some time by making it a form of super-rabies that they called the Rage Virus. Those people weren't dead, just unthinking. If you've ever seen a rabid animal, they are scary as hell. Even small ones. They just keep coming at you and coming at you, trying to rip you to pieces and apparently feeling no pain. Of course, the virus kills you in about a week to 10 days, so it's not useful as an ongoing threat.


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if the lead holds that level of acting throughout then this is a a winner.
Factoid: the lead actor is British. Last year I counted that fully 60% of American television lead actors are either from the UK or Australia/NZ. Dang immigrants stealin' our jobs!

Are these guys all born with the ability to do other accents?


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It is funny that I notice real quick when an American actor is trying to do a foreign accent but not the reverse. Though with a few people I will notice certain words are harder for them to say. I notice this with Sarah from Chuck a lot, but House is pretty DARN good at hiding his accent!


 

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Yeaaaa.... I won't be missing a single episode. Strange being excited about something on tv again.
I am seriously stoked. It has been done so well and I am chomping at the brain for some more! Plus, it has Lennie James in it!

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Factoid: the lead actor is British. Last year I counted that fully 60% of American television lead actors are either from the UK or Australia/NZ. Dang immigrants stealin' our jobs!

Are these guys all born with the ability to do other accents?
He's British? Wow, well he's pretty good.


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It is funny that I notice real quick when an American actor is trying to do a foreign accent but not the reverse. Though with a few people I will notice certain words are harder for them to say. I notice this with Sarah from Chuck a lot, but House is pretty DARN good at hiding his accent!
It's really quite amazing how many TV shows have actors from the Empire. There are hardly any Americans at all in the lead roles of True Blood or The Wire, even the characters who are supposed to be American.

In Are You Being Served? the "American uncle from Dallas" had a hilariously bad US accent. Pronouncing "ceremony" as "sear-a-minny," heh.


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House is pretty DARN good at hiding his accent!
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As I've just recently been in the hospital, I'm familiar with the current IV machines like the one shown -- they run on electricity, but they have a battery backup that will last a day or so, according to the nurse who had to adjust mine. In Walking Dead the electricity in the hospital was not completely out (which I attributed to visual aesthetics) so that may be an out for some people to hang their hats on. I wasn't paying attention to the bag, but it was probably 1,000 ml. IV machines can regulate how quickly the fluid drips. A person can survive on as little as 500 ml per day (as has been done by people at sea) but he was in a coma in an undemanding environment, so he could probably do with a lot less.
I would say that the power flickering and whatnot in the hospital was more due to the damage sustained therein, rather than the obvious fact that there isn't anyone running the power plants anymore. Yet there is still fresh, running water in both the hospital and the police station. I liked that they mentioned the cop shop's own propane supply, but the water itself running like civilization was still up and running was a bit of a stretch.

It could be that the hospital had it's own power generator that was able to run for an extended amount of time due to lessened drain.



 

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Also, hospitals have backup generators in case the power goes out to keep those on life support going.


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The police station would of had one also. Also if it had a gravity fed water supply (still pretty common in the south), then it would have worked.


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The director is a Romero fan, and it shows. I was also impressed at the lack of punch-pulling with both the blood and kinetics involved in the gunplay. The first shooting in the series was brutal in oh-so-many wonderful ways... I guess I was surprised to see as much as I did, given that it's on TV and all.
As soon as I saw the hand reach for the teddy bear, I knew where they were going, but it still surprised me. I didn't think they'd actually show it. Excellent opening sequence, gave it a real sense of seriousness and dedication.

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My favorite moment was him coming down the hospital stairwell in the pitch black, lit only periodically by matches. What an absolutely perfect jump-fright moment, and the fact that they played it like they did only made me respect them more. They obviously understand the tropes of horror and are playing with them in really smart ways.
I kept waiting for "it" to happen then. When he got to the door and opened it, the suspense just skyrocketed. It was glorious. I'm still giddy.


 

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Super Awesome Zombie Show Is Super Awesome.

Anyone know how many episodes there are in this season.

the first of many many more seasons I hope.


 

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Six eps this season, though I've heard they already greenlit a second season.