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Yes, I am guessing it is <redacted> from the comic book as well. I wasn't so sure about that in the comic book, I eagerly await to see how the show handles it.


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So what did Jenner whisper to Rick?

My guess is it was <spoiler from comic book>.
I'm hoping that it was the location of a cache of food or weapons, or a safe place, but it was more likely the revelation that everyone is host to the virus/microbe/fungus that turns people into zombies.

We'll find out next year.

If I have to wait a whole year, I'm starting my own zombie apocalypse. *twitch*


 

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I'm hoping that it was the location of a cache of food or weapons, or a safe place, but it was more likely the revelation that everyone is host to the virus/microbe/fungus that turns people into zombies.

We'll find out next year.

If I have to wait a whole year, I'm starting my own zombie apocalypse. *twitch*
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Ok, I liked this episode overall, and think it is a good ending to the first season. My observations:

1) The brain scan of the "zombification" of Dr. Jenner's wife. That was cool. RL tech like that doesn't exist at all, but still cool to see how it works. I find it hard to believe with that kind of equipment Dr. J didn't find out more than he did.

2) Dr. J's whisper in Ricks ear. Yeah, I'm pretty what he said is something I posted in a comic spoiler pretty early on in this thread. Not a bad way to get the information out there.

3) The opening flashback. Very nice, one of the better parts of the episode IMHO. Answered the question of how the gurney came to be in front of Rick's door, which I had wondered about. I think they are actually taking better advantage of the Shane character in the TV series than Kirkman did in the book.

4) The building explosion: Well, I have to say that the special effects budget would have been better spent by having more zombies throughout the show, paid for by saving the money on this shot. It just looked so fake. My wife commented, "That was a very efficient explosion." I was thinking the same thing. With a fuel-air explosion, it seems to me that all of the party should have been killed, being as close as they were.

Like the comic, this series has me on the edge of my seat, sorry to see each episode end and eager for the next. Very much looking forward to next season.


 

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The purpose of the explosion was to incinerate and failing that, make it impossible to get any of those "bad bugs" that the doctor was talking about. All of that was multiple stories underground. The fire we see and the building collapse was simply collateral damage.

It's not like they had a FAE as a lobby chandelier.


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The purpose of the explosion was to incinerate and failing that, make it impossible to get any of those "bad bugs" that the doctor was talking about. All of that was multiple stories underground. The fire we see and the building collapse was simply collateral damage.

It's not like they had a FAE as a lobby chandelier.
Exactly.

Glad we finally got something of an explanation for how a comatose Rick managed to survive in the hospital room. Maybe Darabont was reading my posts.


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Well, the final episode and now I have to wait (though I am pretty sure Santa is leaving me several volumes of the graphic novel under the tree ).

Anyway, obviously the trailer editing was worthy of a Fox show, completely misdirecting expectations. From images of a shattered maniac & suicidal researcher we discover a tired, lonely, & defeated suicidal research.

Nice episode in terms of adding some broader context to their experience, and gave them a taste of down time and relaxation. Some glimmers of personality came through in some of the small exchanges within the larger group too, which was nice.

Shane earned some sympathy and then flushed it and more down the drain in the rec room. You know, at the start I wanted to dislike her, but she has stayed strong and is swinging me around some. We will have to see where it goes. Their relationship cannot remain hidden with so much Shane-Rick tension rising. And that won't be pretty.

Andrea 'staying' made a lot of sense, but her realization that she may be dragging someone else with her was nice. The other woman (I forget her name) was an obvious candidate to stay, she seemed somewhat broken by the loss of Jim. And Jenner needed some human company at the end.

The big dramatic finish left me a bit flat. The grenade was a nice out, but then seemed constrained it its results (one window pane?) and then they seemed far too close to the building explosion to have come through safe/clean. But I understand how that works in dramatic presentations.

Looking forward to more. Sooner rather than later, I hope.


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I'm hoping that it was the location of a cache of food or weapons, or a safe place, but it was more likely the revelation that everyone is host to the virus/microbe/fungus that turns people into zombies.

We'll find out next year.

If I have to wait a whole year, I'm starting my own zombie apocalypse. *twitch*
Start preppin that zombie apocalypse. season 2's scheduled for october


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I made it a zombie weekend by watching "Return of the Living Dead Part II" (which is quite hilarious with bodiless zombies talking) and playing a lot of Plants vs Zombies and playing with a zombie mastermind.

I really liked last night's episode especially showing Shane thinking Rick was dead.

But now I have to wait till October? bah! I hate waiting.


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Now we can guess why Dr. J didn't want the group inside the facility.
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I love the way the Dr avoided their questions towards the end. Ive been in conversations before with people that knew I wouldnt like what they were about to tell me
Yeah like I predicted the Doctor didn't survive the episode. I didn't know exactly how he was going to die, but I knew the whole point of this episode was going to be just as a quick rest stop for the campers and a means to get a little bit of info about what caused the zombie apocalypse. On that level this episode delivered exactly what I figured it would.

I also figured TS-19 was going to be emotionally related to Dr. J. I didn't see the wife angle, but still I somehow figured there was going to be some element of tragic suicide/sacrifice related to why he stayed there by himself.

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That was a really quick fire of the grenade....Im just going from memory but I thought the M67 was 3+ secs depending on external conditions.
My guess is that most people watching this show don't know anything about real life grenades. Basically it was a plot device to have a cool connection back to an earlier episode and to serve as a means to get out of the building in a dramatic way. Good enough for me.

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Shane is sympathetic right up until the rec room....then he's a jackass again. Good job.
For the record I dont blame Shane one bit on the hospital scene. Thats as much as you can expect a man to do
I'm really glad they gave us that little flashback scene. It really helped to clarify the whole Shane/Rick/Lori triangle. We know that Shane told Lori he thought Rick was dead, but until now we didn't know whether he was actively being deceptive about that or not. It's cool to see he truly wanted to save Rick even though he couldn't.

I think what we'll find is that Shane really does consider Rick a good friend and doesn't want to kill him. But I'm guessing there's a whole multi-year back story between these three people. I'll bet they all went to high school together and I'm guessing Shane has had feelings for Lori for a long time, even long before she married Rick. I think this is why Shane "moved in" on Lori so quickly after they both figured Rick was dead. Again I don't think Shane wanted Rick to be killed in the hospital, but after Shane realistically assumed he was dead he suddenly realized that his dream of being with Lori (which he had to suppress for so long) could instantly become a reality.

Shane is having (understandable) problems putting his desire for Lori back on hold now that Rick has returned. He has jealous feelings because he sees that his long repressed dream of being with her got a teasing chance to happen but then ungratefully denied. That kind of thing can drive a person loopy.

So while Shane's attempted r-ape of Lori was very bad move on his part I can still have a bit of sympathy for him because he is being driven by emotions that are almost out of his control. Shane simultaneously cares for Rick as a close friend but hates him for indirectly denying the life and family he really wants. Clearly there will be some kind of confrontation between Shane and Rick in the next season. If Shane can't control his jumbled emotions I can see the possibility where either Rick, Shane or both of them will come to a violent end over this.

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Didnt like the ending, but I think they may have shot all their special effects budget in one go.
Thats about it tonight. Not a real good end to Season 1 but the rest of the season was good.
Stupid Military....thats what we always learn in these scenarios
I didn't mind the ending all that much. Sure the special effects of the explosion were a bit silly, but I'm honestly not watching this show to see cutting-edge visuals. I'll let the multi-hundred million dollar blockbuster movies handle that. Like I mentioned before I knew this CDC building was going to be destroyed one way of the other. I halfway assumed the zombies were going to find a way in, but an explosion served the purpose well enough and gave them a chance to have some dramatic moments between the life and death choices people made.

This season finale kept me interested in this show just enough that I'll probably give the second season a chance.
Ultimately that's all it really could expect to hope for from me.


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March 8 is when this comes out on dvd/bluray......so we can re-watch it and wear out the discs until october of next year lol!


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March 8 is when this comes out on dvd/bluray......so we can re-watch it and wear out the discs until october of next year lol!
Eh, I've kept them all TiVo'd until I get bored with them.
I'll wait until it's been out for many seasons as a complete series box set before I even think about buying it.
Got to give it a chance to actually be worth my money first.


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March 8 is when this comes out on dvd/bluray......so we can re-watch it and wear out the discs until october of next year lol!
Yay, it comes out on my birthday!


 

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I am sure AMC will keep running its reruns so unless they add something cool I wouldn't see any reason to buy the discs yet.


total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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Here's something to think about/possible plothole:

Dr. J says the zombie "virus" only controls the brain stem and what makes "you, you" is never activated. So how do we explain Morgan's wife returning to the house and trying the door knob in the pilot and Amy's slight (though maybe just coincidental) recognition of Andrea when she reanimated?


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Here's something to think about/possible plothole:

Dr. J says the zombie "virus" only controls the brain stem and what makes "you, you" is never activated. So how do we explain Morgan's wife returning to the house and trying the door knob in the pilot and Amy's slight (though maybe just coincidental) recognition of Andrea when she reanimated?
the reorganization of the brain in response to trauma is a baffling thing, but it never fails to 'wow'.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...s-doctors.html

a variety of other examples exist as well, but if the brain had been using alternative architecture to maintain usual doings, then it's possible that 'restoring' the brain stem via the infection may also animate certain other attributes not necessarily expected there.

the placement and (near) colocation of the cerebellum and it's links to emotional response may also have a part......in this fictional situation that really doesn't need quite this level of deatil so i'll be going now.....


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I'm hoping that it was the location of a cache of food or weapons, or a safe place, but it was more likely the revelation that everyone is host to the virus/microbe/fungus that turns people into zombies.

We'll find out next year.

If I have to wait a whole year, I'm starting my own zombie apocalypse. *twitch*

So I went back and looked at the whisper scene and tried to read lips....that didnt work, it turns out there is one career field I would be bad at, my guidance counselor lied.

So I fast forwarded to the scene in the RV where the camera unneccessarily shows Rick taking a long look with a strained expression on his face at his wife.....I wrote down my options for what he could be thinking before I watched it to see which one did that.

A. "Holy **** that was close, that doctor was bat-**** crazy"
B. "Hey I know the secret to the virus, for lack of a better word lets call it "hungry herpes""
C. "That was an awful bad CGI explosion, odd that we would spend a lot of money on that when we are a show about "interpersonal development"
D. "The Doc told me you're 3 months pregnant. Unless you got it on with coma-Rick, we have something to talk about. Didnt we agree to a 4 year rule after seeing Castaway?"
E. "Daryl is funny...lets tell him we saw Merle on top of the building as we ran out yelling for help. Or we could tell him Jenner was a witch doctor and knew voodoo."
F. "Why is Shane driving a Jeep around with his elbow hanging out the window? Is that really a good choice?"
G. "Remember that movie "Escape from Witch Mountain" where they drove around the countryside in an RV. Yeah this is nothing like that."


So anyhow....clearly the answer was D. Look at his expression....go ahead. He wants some answers but cant ask right this minute and knows it....

The wife is pregnant, Shane is the father and this **** is going to come to a head next season.


 

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I don't want to wait until October 2011 for the second season.


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BWAHAHAHA! There are times that I love knowing spoilers...this is one of them!

Don't worry, zombie apocalypse is scheduled to start Dec. 21, 2012.
I thought that's when a rogue comet collided with a passing meteor, dumping exotic particles all over the planet, which interacted with the LHC and created a micro black hole, in turn triggering global seismic and volcanic activity, resulting in glacial melting, thereby creating a snowball earth scenario with the additional water and clouds reflecting more sunlight back into space and ultimately freezing us all to death.

Or something like that. All of the best and most respected doomsayers are in agreement. I asked one of those fellows with a sandwich board and pamphlets, he said Nostradamus and Cayce visited him in his sleep and told him that's how the world was going to end, and he verified it with ancient Mayan prophecies and alien texts left behind thousands of years ago.

So it can't be zombies. If it were zombies, I would've heard something on the moving picture box by now, right?

...

*twitch*

On a more serious note, I'm still convinced that we've grown too enamored with apocalypse, and some day, when yet another predicted "end of the world" has passed and nothing happens, civilization is going to go completely bonkers and tear itself apart, viciously and eagerly.


 

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Here's something to think about/possible plothole:

Dr. J says the zombie "virus" only controls the brain stem and what makes "you, you" is never activated. So how do we explain Morgan's wife returning to the house and trying the door knob in the pilot and Amy's slight (though maybe just coincidental) recognition of Andrea when she reanimated?
Residual neural activity, or "spillover" from the virus' electrical activity spreading slightly along the existing neural paths. Probably strong at death, gradually diminishing as the brain dries out or decays.


 

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The wife is pregnant, Shane is the father and this **** is going to come to a head next season.
Ooooooooooooooooooo, I forgot about that. Oh yeah, this is going to get brutal.


 

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The wife is pregnant, Shane is the father ...
So is this basically what the Dr whispered in Rick's ear?


 

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So is this basically what the Dr whispered in Rick's ear?

Well except for the Shane part. Most likely it would just be "Your wife is pregnant and some other mumbo jumbo"

Just my thoughts


 

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Well except for the Shane part. Most likely it would just be "Your wife is pregnant and some other mumbo jumbo"

Just my thoughts
He got blood samples from everyone. He could easily have run a paternity test to rule out Rick, and then just for kicks he could have checked the other men to see if they were the father.

I just thought of something... his real name wasn't Dr. Jenner... it was Dr. Povitch!

This was the spoiler I was alluding to earlier.


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