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No doubt, I whole-heartedly agree.
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Oh, I am sure
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
Here QA, have a ] you need it.
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And as I mentioned, there are government reports of canned foods still being edible after decades. There are many factors which determine shelf life for canned goods. As you noted, the type of container used. Temperature. Exposure to moisture. Preservation technique used to prepare the food (salting/pickling, de-oxygenation, precooking, sun-drying/jerking, dehydration, etc.). Cleanliness of the container. Even the food itself, the stage of growth or what form it's in (pasta noodles, bread and some cereals, for instance, are all made with wheat flour, but they have different shelf lives and spoilage factors).|
Originally Posted by Dark One
Sorry Lumi, but I have home-canned food from about 5-6 years ago that is still good.
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Your average off-the-shelf, found-in-any-modern-grocery-or-convenience-store cans of food, those are typically given an expiration time of 1-3 years. They may last 10 or 15, they may be inedible despite having 2 years left on their shelf life, but a good average to expect is 18 months. That gives you a few months after the 1 year products' expiration dates, when it may still be edible (meaning, free of bacteria) and gets the 2+ year products out of the way before they expire.
And while it may be edible, there's still no guarantee that it will be nutritious. Regardless of how well food is preserved, it loses nutritive value over time (more quickly outside of carefully monitored and maintained environments). At some point, even if it eases hunger, it won't give the body the sustenance it requires.
That's what Rick and Co. can expect. They'll be able to get viable food from supermarkets for a while, but not forever. Not even 5-6 years, absolutely not 50 years. Those cans and jars will be sitting in heat and water in the summer, freezing in the winter, and very quickly losing their nutritive value even if the seals remain intact. If they haven't all but exhausted pre-existing food supplies within 18 months of power loss, well... I'll make a lot of frowny faces and grumble about bad writing (unless there's a scene showing them throwing away most of the cans and keeping a select few presumably good ones).
Dehydrated foods last longer than factory canned foods, and I would expect the CDC to have stores of that rather than cans, so they may simply write away the food situation by having the group stock up on CDC supplies and ignore it thereafter.
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You've uncovered my true plot. I've been engineering this for five years. Did it work?
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And... Lumi... now we see... this was all just a platform for your pro-farming propaganda!!
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I have now read the first four volumes of TDW. Got a little bit better, but man, it is true, everytime someone says they are happy, things go bad!
"Ben is short for Frank."
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Wait until you read 5-7. NOT the feel-good comic of the year, lemme tell ya...
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
I have now read the first four volumes of TDW. Got a little bit better, but man, it is true, everytime someone says they are happy, things go bad!
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I have a dark sense of humor sometimes, so Vols. 1-4 made me laugh more than depressed
"Ben is short for Frank."
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You're going to find the next few volumes hysterical then...
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
I have a dark sense of humor sometimes, so Vols. 1-4 made me laugh more than depressed
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Three hours and thirty minutes to the season finale!
If you have to go to the store, go now! Hurry back, the zombies are coming!
Hm... watching the second episode, Guts, something that someone said came into focus. After last week's episode, someone mentioned that people turn seconds or minutes after death, whereas in the show, it happens after hours.
It makes more sense for it to take several hours. Meat doesn't stink immediately after a healthy animal, or human, has died, it takes a minimum of several hours. So a freshly turned zombie would still smell like a living human, prompting all of the other zombies to attack and eat it. The end result would be a much, much slower expansion of the zombie population. Essentially, only lone stragglers and outliers would remain intact, the rest would devour each other or inflict sufficient damage to neutralize any immediate threat.
Good deviation from the comic. More logical and consistent.
Less than two hours! Warm up your chair and hide the remote control!
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Kirkman said in an interview recently that he thought the comic was going to get canceled, so he crammed a lot of stuff in there and compressed the storyline quite a bit more than he wanted. That's why he's been so enthusiastic about the changes Darabont has made.
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
Oh, I am sure
But for a one-to-one comparison, these six episodes are better than Vol. 1. In my opinion, of course. But that's because TV allows for more breathing room and is a bit more dynamic. As you said, Vol. 1 is an introduction, so it rushes through a lot of things that I think are important. That, though, may be due to watching the show and feeling certain events should have more weight in the comic. |
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ONE HOUR!
*rings bell* Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead!
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I also read that he wish he had thought of the Daryl character for his comic. It is interesting, because by and large, there are no real inter-group squabbles in the first Volume except for Shane/Rick/Lori. And by the second volume that is taken care of and everyone is pretty much on board with Rick and making nice with each other.
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Originally Posted by Ironik
Kirkman said in an interview recently that he thought the comic was going to get canceled, so he crammed a lot of stuff in there and compressed the storyline quite a bit more than he wanted. That's why he's been so enthusiastic about the changes Darabont has made.
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"Ben is short for Frank."
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GO TIME!
*grabs crossbow and popcorn*
Gotta love them making Shane a tragic hero and a *******.
"Ben is short for Frank."
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Damn it, Shane! Just when I started to feel some sympathy for the character, he goes and does that.
On the positive side, what appeared to be Andrea suffering from infection in the promo isn't looking like that now. This is very good, because I really like this character. Her, Dale and Daryl are strong, they need to stick around for as long as possible.
No more chit chat, zombie time!
I know Dr. Jenner is just an exposition device, and no way someone would actually talk like that. but dangit, Noam Emmerich nails it so well.
"Ben is short for Frank."
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Facility-wide decontamination... and they just spent almost all of time prior to this getting drunk and sleeping, instead of grabbing everything they could and getting out.
Oh sh- moment? I do believe this qualifies. We got some questions answered, though, so let's see where this goes.
Back!
Now we can guess why Dr. J didn't want the group inside the facility.
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Okay, for about four minutes, I was hoping Dr. Jenner would escape with them.
Now, I just want to see his brain escape the confines of his skull.
Quick Thoughts....
I love the way the Dr avoided their questions towards the end. Ive been in conversations before with people that knew I wouldnt like what they were about to tell me....
That was a really quick fire of the grenade....Im just going from memory but I thought the M67 was 3+ secs depending on external conditions..
Shane is sympathetic right up until the rec room....then he's a jackass again. Good job.
For the record I dont blame Shane one bit on the hospital scene. Thats as much as you can expect a man to do
Didnt like the ending, but I think they may have shot all their special effects budget in one go.
Thats about it tonight. Not a real good end to Season 1 but the rest of the season was good.
Stupid Military....thats what we always learn in these scenarios
Oh my, that was intense. I'm hyperventilating, and with this bad lung, taking deep breaths isn't easy. Makes my scars and chest hurt, too. Maybe I should stop watching this show...
I KNEW that grenade would be showing up again, but it caught me by surprise.
I seriously started panicking when Andrea said she was staying. I think I amused my roommate with my shrieks and stomping. >.<
I so can't wait for the second season.
So what did Jenner whisper to Rick?
My guess is it was <spoiler from comic book>.
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"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
But for a one-to-one comparison, these six episodes are better than Vol. 1. In my opinion, of course. But that's because TV allows for more breathing room and is a bit more dynamic. As you said, Vol. 1 is an introduction, so it rushes through a lot of things that I think are important. That, though, may be due to watching the show and feeling certain events should have more weight in the comic.
Also, the fights in the movie are a lot better than in the book. Again, probably do to the more dynamic possibilities live-action allows for me.
That being said, I am enjoying reading both.
"Ben is short for Frank."
-Baffling Beer-Man, The Tenacious 3: The Movie
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