QuietAmerican
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Quote:I see your point, but I also felt the action underperformed, but for me the reason wasn't that I expected more, it was that it was poorly choiorgraphed. A film lacks suspence in a fight or vehical chase if you don't tell a story with the action, or build up that action to become part of the plot.Originally Posted by Rock_Crag
You sound a lot like my brother and several other people I've talked with. As with all over-hyped movies... people go in to the movie expecting for their minds to be blown away... and when it wasn't... they blame the movie for not going far enough.
Like the Light Cycle sequence in the first Tron.
A. Here are the light Cycles
B. Here is where they are in relationship to each other
C. Here is what they can do to each other, wall damage
D. Here is how you can beat them, Maze
E. Repeat B-C-D with variation and built up energy that lead to a plot point (the cracked wall from D becomes the Escape Route)
In this movie it was just too confusing, a bunch of glam shots spliced together with a very loose connecteted action. I really didn't feel that the Director was very skilled in telling a story through action.
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The worst offender was the final flight scene, really it was just a bad dog fight. Really bad with a glam confusing ending that left too of the attackers less then hurt, and made for a pointless race/chase.
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However, I do agree that expectations can carry you away, but by the time I'd seen the movie, Id read a few bad reviews and so my expectations were tempered. -
Quote:I agree,Originally Posted by BrandX
Hmmm...watched it today in 3D.
I just didn't see what the hype was about. Wasn't a terrible movie, but I felt like the scene with the light cycles were lacking, and the disc throwing scenes could have been so much more.
It just wasn't all that.
My thoughts were that the chirography was lacking. At any given moment, you never really knew what was really happening during the action, or where the hero was in relation to the bad guy. In Tron, everything was spelled out very well, so you understood what was going on during the light cycle race, as well as the ball bounce video game. In this movie, it was just glam glam glam, slam, glam glam glam slam, to much punch, not enough follow through.
Oh... and light cycles can't go 90 degrees anymore?
Other than that, I enjoyed it, and I look forward to a third Tron.
Fixed that for you.Quote:Originally Posted by Talia_Rayvyn
Son of Flynn - He was alright but the one thought that kept popping into my head was how he would have played a good Mutt Jones.
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Quote:I KNEW IT!Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
The laughs come in because it wasn't Dumbledore that said "there is no try, there is only do or do not"; that phrase was actually said by Fozzie T. Bear in an episode of the '50's show Kung Fu.
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People, people, people, this is TRON we're talking about here. No need to argue. Share the love that it was even made!
Oh wait, its TRON! and we're geeks,
...right...
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Quote:Its like that episode of The Munsters where Wednesday Smart tells Gilligan to "Sit on it!"Originally Posted by sleestack
It's like that episode of The Flintstones where Homer and Flanders get in an argument with Yogi over the pic-a-nic basket.
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Quote:Yes, you're not.Originally Posted by _Klaw_
I think I'm missing something here.
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I just invented a machine that allows me to post messages under the name QuietAmerican!
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What I was hoping for, but didn't see.
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“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.”
Doctor Who
“First things first, but not necessarily in that order.”
Doctor Who
“Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority.”
Doctor Who
“Anybody remotely interesting is mad, in some way or another.”
Doctor Who
“Rest is for the weary, sleep is for the dead.”
Doctor Who
“According to classical aerodynamics, it is impossible for a bumblebee to fly”
Doctor Who
“Resistance is useless.”
Doctor Who
“Good place to put things - cellars.”
Doctor Who
“There are worlds out there where the skies are burning, where the seas asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke, and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice...and somewhere else the tea is getting cold. Come on Ace...we've got work to do!”
Doctor Who
“I tolerate this century but I don't enjoy it.”
Doctor Who
“I'm not wild about computers myself, but they are a tool. If you have a tool, it's stupid not to use it.”
Doctor Who
“Your struggle is futile.”
Doctor Who
“I can also withstand considerably more G-force than most people, even though I do say so myself.”
Doctor Who
“Bad laws were made to be broken.”
Doctor Who
“The beauty of cinema is it's something that can be made locally and consumed the world over,”
Doctor Who
“We should back ourselves a little harder, and have a bit more courage and resolve.”
Doctor Who
“No, no. It's [a visited planets' atmosphere] quite healthy. Similar to Earth, before the invention of the motorcar!”
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I loved Guy Richies' choice of energy in, editing, camrea, and art direction.
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I feel for her.
I was a little boy and I played with Barbi Dolls and...
...no I didn't.
But I know what its like to be an outsider, and I'm so happy its working out for her.
One thing I've always thought was just THE coolist was that Ashley Eckstein who voices Ahsoka Tano in Clon Wars has her own Lucas approved clothing lines for girls called
"Her Universe"
Its mentioned in the article, and she gave big to Katie!
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I'm sure the Actor's Guild of America will have something to say about this. I don't think these actors ever invisioned that their likeness, and ability to "Appear" in a new film would be used AFTER DEATH. Who owns the rights to an actor's after-life?
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Quote:Quoted for truth.Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
"Good Omens." If only that would be the next Gaiman work adapted!
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Quote:Thanks.Originally Posted by MentalMaden
Here QA, have a ] you need it.
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Quote:Ahh.. I haven't read the comics, so now that you say this, I guess my argument about the poor writing isn't totally with the tv writers. It goes back to the source material. Good to know.Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
the actual volume one, which is full of rushed plot points, so-so dialogue and flimsy characterization.
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Quote:Yes, especially how the humans were discussing pulling the same jerk move not one scene before.Originally Posted by Dark One
Wow...jerk move by those insects or whatever they are.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sevenpenny
Feel like I should be building a boat with the downpour that coming down right now!
You're too late, the rain has started. The idea is having faith that rain COULD come and you should be prepared.
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Quote:I agree with your principles, but not the outcome.Originally Posted by galadiman
And to (Quiet American, if I recall correctly), re: talking^8, I really LIKE the talking. Too many people insist that DOING is the most important thing, "DO SOMETHING NAO!" But in this kind of situation, each decision could very well be LIFE or DEATH, for ALL of them. [I recall the mushroom incident - (paraphrasing) -"There's only one way I know to figure out if it's poisonous..."]
So while it is dramatically less interesting to the viewer, it seems more real that in any plan as vital as these plans are, you'd spend 90% talking/thinking about it, then the rest of the time actually carrying out the plan.
And I recall a favorite movie of mine that is 90+% talking to my recollection - "The Green Mile." Also, come to think of it, "The Shawhank Redemption" is similar... In fact, if I didn't know any better, knowing Darabont direct... NM, just found out that Darabont actually wrote those, so THAT makes sense. LOL at me, just don't point.
Shawshank and Green Mile have memorable, entertaining, riveting dialogue. This show just has boring obvious forgettable dialogue. The point with the movies is although they were part of a genre (Jail movies), you really didn't know what was going to happen next. Would the guy escape? Would the other one get parole? And the dialogue explored and exposed the humanity of the characters, showed unexpected facets, and flaws.
This is a Zombie show, and right now its following formula. The dialogue isn't showing unexpected anything. For instance with the Merle episode, you Know they are going back for him, the dull sheriff character is so one dimensional that he HAS too, and the story is structured so that they HAVE to go or else there is no story, but to tell the story with 45 min of dialogue is BORING and pointless.
One of the reasons I'm watching the show is because I love the director, and I hoped for greatness. The first episode had some AMAZING moments, like the dead mother at the door, or the little kid taking a swing at the Sheriff thinking he's a zombie, or the Sheriff going out into the field to put the crawling zombie out of its misery. Scenes that show the character's flaws and make him interesting. .
I expect more from the writing and directing. I was hoping for something as unexpected and charcter deep with riveting dialogue like Breaking Bad, but with Zombies. I guess perhaps I'm asking too much.
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Quote:Good. As I feel the writing is the worst part of the show. I shouldn't want to fast forward a zombie show because of excessive obvious dialogue.Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
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Quote:I think its because he knows he needs "Fresh Meat" to work on his experiments. His last culture was destroyed, and he needs more brain material to experiment on. He wanted them to go away, and new that if he let them in, then he'd be tempted to "experiment" on them. That's the feeling I got.Originally Posted by Lothic
Basically I figured the whole point behind him becoming suicidal and saying "No, go away!" to the campers on his monitor is -precisely- because he knew he might have infected himself. The whole thing comes off as fairly confused if we the audience can't be sure which way to interpret what happened in the lab. -
Of all the shows that premiered last season, I can't believe that his one made it. I find it unwatchable.
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I've been shy to post in this thread, because... I'm finding the show very boring, and it makes me sad because I wish I liked it more. I'm not interested in the characters, except for the Sheriff, and the plot is... really plodding.
I've been fast forwarding through about 20% of the each show thinking, oh, here is where they talk about this obvious thing... fast forward... fast forward... man these people talk a lot fast forward, fast forward, and they aren't talking about anything very unpredictable.
Like the episode where they go back for Merle, there is a good quarter of the show that is them discussing the trip, that they shouldn't go, that they should, that they shouldn't, and no character says anything that you don't expect them to. Its obvious, and we all know they will go back for him... and they do... but they kept talking about it, and talking about it, and talking about it. After a while I got the feeling I was watching a Survivor episode or something instead of a zombie show. Then after all the talking, what happens? Nothing. You end up on an empty roof showing the severed hand, that the show telegraphed from the opening scene, so no big surprise.
The show if full of this. Talking... talking... talking... obvious moment, telegraphed moment, talking... talking... then a few zombies.
The reason I've been shy is because I think I'm the only one who feels this way. I just hope that the pace picks up. Right now its plodding along like a zombie.
The only episode I was really interested in was the first one, but that was a very standard Zombie introduction show. Felt like 28 days later.
Anyway... I can tell its a good show, I just wish I liked it more.
I think the trick is I need to be interested in the characters, and I'm just not. They are too obvious for me. I hope this doctor guy is more interesting. So far he seems to be. -
Quote:Yes, humans will be but larva, living to gain practical experience as a living thing, and our real "life" will begin after coding. Sure, our mortal bodies will die, and the brain and its "Life" will die. We will die. But a copy of us, a new life, a digital life, will walk / uplink out of the hospital and on to a new existence.Originally Posted by Lothic
That's actually what many people think may be the outcome of this. It's not that we are going to create a separate non-human "artificial" intelligence as much as create a way to transcend our own biology and gain a form of technological immortality for ourselves. Machine-based intelligence won't be alien to us, it'll eventually be "us" as Humans: version 2.0.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Lothic
I personally don't think it's a matter of IF the Technological Singularity is going to happen.
I think it's really only a matter of WHEN.
Bring it on. I hope the singularity will mean our intelligence transferred to computer. That's what I'm looking for. To be hooked to a computer at my death bed and be transferred when this mortal coil runs out.