How long to get to 50 without training or fighting anything?
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Posted on: 2010-10-21 04:47 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Back when mission dropping was weekly, someone asked this; the result was somewhere between several years and several decades. At least, if memory serves.
With dropping every three days, you probably will see a little over than half of that shaved off. But again, it's a long time.
I am fairly sure that getting higher tiers of contacts requires you to have a higher security level, which in turn requires training, so I guess at least the 'no training' question is out.
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Are there repeatable missions you could get and just do over and over at a low enough level?|
Originally Posted by Noxilicious
I am fairly sure that getting higher tiers of contacts requires you to have a higher security level, which in turn requires training, so I guess at least the 'no training' question is out.
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Radio/Newspaper missions would probably be the best bet, and declining the Safeguard/Mayhem missions until time to move to next zone would be the best way to level without leveling.
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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
Are there repeatable missions you could get and just do over and over at a low enough level?
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Since radio and newspaper missions go all the way to 50 there's really no need to train ever.|
Originally Posted by Kiwi
Radio/Newspaper missions would probably be the best bet, and declining the Safeguard/Mayhem missions until time to move to next zone would be the best way to level without leveling.
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Okay, not the method used as an example, but you could:
1. Level pact with friend.
2. Log out.
3. Wait roughly twice the time it takes to normally get to 50.
You can even team with your friend on another character, and powerlevel your pacifist if you want!
Whatever the method, the idea is so ridiculous it brings a smile to my face. Good thread 
I thought you would run out of contacts as you tried that. You won't get enough xp to get your next contact by dropping all the time, and some missions can't be dropped. Not to mention the missions of "Kill x mob followed by defeat all in base and then defeat all in 2nd base" style missions, where you are never leaving the first mission in the first place.
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I once did a level pact with someone, then they didn't log on for awhile due to real life issues and such.
As fun, I got that person from 19 to 50.
They were so *impressed*, they deleted the character because the fun of the journey wasn't there.
Soo.. I can tell you that it would take about 60 days to get from 19 to 50 without ever training haha.
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I remember someone calculated this out to 40ish years at one time. I don't recall any details. I'm sure their calculation scenario allowed "leveling" to obtain the contacts though as their focus was on leveling using the skip mission function.
Heck, the number of people I've seen get to 50 without training or fighting anyone is pretty high. Of course they didn't drop any missions, so the case isn't valid.
Back when AE first came out I'd say your answer was about an afternoon.
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Yes, I recall that; it was Culex who calculated it but I don't recall the number offhand. A lot has changed since then anyway.
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Originally Posted by Tidbit Jr.
Back when mission dropping was weekly, someone asked this; the result was somewhere between several years and several decades. At least, if memory serves.
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You don't need contacts past the first five levels, and none of the missions in that range can't be autocompleted AFAIK. Past that you can go the whole way to 50 by autocompleting newspaper/scanner missions every three days.
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Originally Posted by BlackArachnia
I thought you would run out of contacts as you tried that. You won't get enough xp to get your next contact by dropping all the time, and some missions can't be dropped. Not to mention the missions of "Kill x mob followed by defeat all in base and then defeat all in 2nd base" style missions, where you are never leaving the first mission in the first place.
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Don't you have to level up to 5 in order to start getting Radio Missions? I seem to remember having to street sweep in KR to get to the next level so I could start working on getting my jetpack.
Hitting exploration badges would be a way to squeeze out a little more XP.
To get the radio mishes do you have to be trained up to 5 before you get the radio?
I would imagine its been done already.
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To my mind doorsitting in missions, whether AE or regular, isn't really leveling to 50 without fighting. Technically you aren't fighting, but it's not really in the spirit of the challenge.|
Originally Posted by newchemicals
I would imagine its been done already.
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That reminds me of the guy who posted that his Empath didn't slot or use any attacks because he was a pacifist.
i... see... so in order to express your objection to violence you follow around a group of violent people and juice them with amphetamines and steroids to keep them strong and aggressive and patch them up when they bruise a knuckle smashing other people's faces in. Yup, definitely a true pacifist. Assuming your definition of pacifist is a coward who likes to facilitate and watch violence committed by others.
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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
Are there repeatable missions you could get and just do over and over at a low enough level?
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As someone else has said you can drop radio/newspapaer missions. And when you get high enough you can drop the repeatable missions from Borea in RWZ and that guy in Cimerora.
The thing to remember is that Borea offers two types of missions. The top one can be dropped and will also get you a vanguard merit automatically. The bottom one is always a timed mission. I think it works the same way with the Cimerora contact.
Oh and don't forget you can max out your difficulty sliders to get a larger mission completion bonus.
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Originally Posted by Schismatrix
To my mind doorsitting in missions, whether AE or regular, isn't really leveling to 50 without fighting. Technically you aren't fighting, but it's not really in the spirit of the challenge.
That reminds me of the guy who posted that his Empath didn't slot or use any attacks because he was a pacifist. i... see... so in order to express your objection to violence you follow around a group of violent people and juice them with amphetamines and steroids to keep them strong and aggressive and patch them up when they bruise a knuckle smashing other people's faces in. Yup, definitely a true pacifist. Assuming your definition of pacifist is a coward who likes to facilitate and watch violence committed by others. |
Except under this hypothetical challenge Marcus Valerius is out because you cannot drop the last mission in a story-arc and therefore not gain access to Cimerora.
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Are we talking the final mission for access to the Midnighter's? If so talking to the Latin student wouldn't constitute any kind of fight and wouldn't need to be dropped.
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Originally Posted by Noxilicious
Except under this hypothetical challenge Marcus Valerius is out because you cannot drop the last mission in a story-arc and therefore not gain access to Cimerora.
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That's what I was thinking but if I'm wrong I apologize.
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Originally Posted by ketch
Are we talking the final mission for access to the Midnighter's? If so talking to the Latin student wouldn't constitute any kind of fight and wouldn't need to be dropped.
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IIRC there are a couple of missions in midnighters arc that cant be dropped, save percy and save sucide jane.
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I haven't seen it yet but aren't we forgetting one method that doesn't require any special contact at all? AE.. sure it would take even longer with the nerfs but a character could leave Outbeak, or Break Out, and head straight to the AE building and just keep running missions all the way to 50. No training required to get to level 5 for radio/newsapaper missions, no need to worry about contacts.. you have the only one you need (the mission computer), and even a steady supply of inspirations available.
Now we all remember the "I made it from level 1 to 50" AE babies from when this first hit and they bragged about doing so in hours. I'm sure it would take longer now BUT the question was CAN a character go all the way to 50 without every training... I don't see why not using this method. And never even have to leave the first zone they arrive in while doing it.
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Its not just getting to 50 without training, but also without fighting.
Door sitting doesnt require AE, and I'd agree with those that joining a fighting team as a dorr sitter is breaking spirit of challenge.
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This is an utterly retarded idea, I've no intention of doing it lol.
I think that theoretically it would be possible to get to lvl 50 without ever fighting anything, by just dropping missions. Not training along the way is just an added nonsense, I guess. Does anyone with more of a grasp of XP misdion complete bonuses etc have an idea of how long this would take, if the game continued to be playable indefinitely?
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The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)