Devs, get back to normal Boosters.
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Posted on: 2010-10-20 16:47 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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It's a mob. We used the B to handcuff the unbelievers.
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Originally Posted by Tidbit Jr.
What? We couldn't afford to purchase the letter B?
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Originally Posted by Scythus
YEAH! YEAH! HOW DARE A COMPANY LIKE NCSOFT TRY TO MAKE MONEY! YEAH! YEAH!
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You forgot immature entitlement issues.
I would hope the next bunch of boosters would be better than the last several. The Party Pack was just a rip off. This new one does not look good and there isn't enough in it to justify a $10 price.
The previous ones were fairly light. The Science pack was awful. The ninja pack was of poor quality but the ninja run is awesome.
I don't even think they need the same type of theme in the future. Get some good costume sets together and call it something fitting or whatever. It'd be nice to get a well done booster sometime soon. The last two just feel way too much like cash grabs.
how dare you sir, the ninja booster was awesome!
*takes off glove*
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November 3rd is only a couple of weeks away.
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Originally Posted by TheJazMan
It'd be nice to get a well done booster sometime soon.
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@Golden Girl
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PLEASE MAKE A VERSION OF EACH AURA WITH GLOWING EYES PLEASE!!!!!!!111!~~~~!
With that said, I will be buying this pack - because unlike the so-called "party" pack, there is a metric ton of stuff in this one that I will piece out all over the place.
I often buy boosters to get my hands on ONE piece of it, such as I bought Mutant because I wanted the Mutant wings. I will use almost everything in this one.... omg the leaf one has little cutouts in it.... awesome... so since I'll be using almost all of it I have no problem paying for it.
I would prefer that original-style boosters such as the original four origins packs continue to be made as well, however.
Wait: firefly is not in there. Does this mean we're still not going to be able to put it on female characters, after this is released? 
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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
It's a mob. We used the B to handcuff the unbelievers.
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I would rather that a player has to unlock a costume part, that way everyone that plays the game can access said parts.|
Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
Better than being told they have to level to 20 or 30 or 50, or wait over a year for a Veterans badge.
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I can't believe people have been shelling out money for these wastes of cash. The audacity that the developers have is astounding! Why are you all paying for these? Stop spending money on them and maybe they'll get the idea that these minor additions to the game should be free. I regret paying for the one super booster I bought (technology) and I've not bought one since (discounting the G.R. pack as I felt it was part of the expansion).
I'm happy I'm quitting this game for good this time around. The game has steadily been going down hill with crap like this going on and players just lapping it up.
Keep this in mind everyone: NC Soft just laid off a few employees, some that have been around for quite some time. They're now releasing sub par item packs or separating certain items and auras that I think were originally intended for release with G.R. such as the party pack. Half the emotes in that pack for instance were already demonstrated by N.P.C.'s in Praetoria, but I digress. If you ask me, I think they realize with DCU coming out that they're going to be in trouble and the policy's now "cash in while we can". The recent packs have been coming out very quickly one after another when before there would be spans of months between them. Pair that fact with the quality we've been given with the last few and I think I'm pretty on with my assessment.
I think this game has maybe two years tops left in it and by no means do I think that the servers are going to go dark relatively anytime soon, but so far we've seen a huge decline in quality and delays up to wazoo with promised content. Although Going Rogue sold decently, I don't think they made quite the turnaround as NC Soft has expected. Mark my words everyone, 2 years tops. My guess would be a year after the release of DCU if that game delivers the way I think it is going to.
Please don't give me, "Well, after large expansions people get laid off." Well, if the game delivered as they thought it would those people would still have jobs. The circumstances BaB left under are not a good sign whatever they may be.
Stop paying for these boosters. We pay enough as it is without ever having any major content upgrades. I know Blizzard is a huge company with huge resources, but regardless Paragon Studios should keep up. CoX is a relatively small game when compared to other MMO's. I know they give us free updates and content here and there, but what we have now only amounts to what CoX should have been from the beginning other than the bare bones MMO of what it was when it started. G.R. shows just that bare bones mentality. They should have included and had ready the end game content when G.R. went live, but they just didn't deliver like they always do.
I know I'm pissing off a lot of people here. Let me just say that the devs. do seem sincere in their efforts. In fact, I would wager that all these pathetic little microtransactions are the work of the marketing department or the higher ups at NC Soft, not the actual devs. that deal directly with us and the game itself. Still, the policy they've had of late makes me angry because they are counting on the gullibility of their player base.
Give us some cool new costumes devs. without having to pay for them. 3-5 with an expansion doesn't cut it for me. I was expecting way more with how huge G.R. was supposed to be. This was a huge let down in my book.
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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
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You mean how they made plenty of money off a simple booster?|
Originally Posted by Terminal Velocity
Honestly, I'm surprised you did a all cape/aura booster after how the party pack worked out.
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yeah, why on earth would they want to do THAT again.
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except the people who aren't able to unlock them, or who don't consider tedious grinding a fair 'price' to pay for said pieces.|
Originally Posted by Invisobill
I would rather that a player has to unlock a costume part, that way everyone that plays the game can access said parts.
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I'd rather drop a few bucks on something I want than waste my valuable game time grinding for it.
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| I can't believe people have been shelling out money for these wastes of cash. The audacity that the developers have is astounding! |
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Coincidentally, the mutant booster was where I started really noticing people lament the downward slide in Booster quality so I don't know if I'd make that my benchmark.|
Originally Posted by Eiko-chan
The Mutant Booster had 19 costume pieces and 5 emotes.
The Origins Pack has 15 costume pieces - including 10 auras, which (barring some really weird SCR about the game engine) are almost certainly more work to develop than a single costume piece, being a mesh and animation, rather than just a mesh. |
Auras, while technically costume pieces, don't have the flexibility of "real" costume pieces. I've probably used the martial arts boots and gloves in dozens of applications but there's not much to do with swirling leaves except for look like you have some leaves swirling around you.
I'll be thankful if and when they get back to more traditional booster packs. I'm happy for those who are excited about this one but I can't see spending ten bucks on something so limited in scope. Not that ten bucks will break me but I also don't go around giving people $10 for stuff I don't think is worth it just to prove how little ten bucks will hurt me.
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So you play an RPG, but you don't want to have to level up to level 35 to have to access Roman costume pieces? I think that's a far price to pay and a part of the natural leveling process. In fact, almost all RPG's out there require the player to jump through hoops for a special weapon or costume piece. Don't play an RPG if you don't want to grind, they're all mostly constructed around that concept.
Veteran rewards I have a gripe with as well. I think that is wrong. I'm of the belief that we all pay a flat monthly fee for this game and we should all be given the same things free of charge. Especially when there are seldom any new free costumes and there is a widening gap in quality between the super booster items and the boxed items. Yes, this stuff should be free for those two reasons alone. I would rather take the time to naturally level to make my Roman character, maybe put him in a leather looking costume until then, than to have to pay money just so I can make that character. That way, we could all be Romans if we want to and not just those with the cash to do so. Most costumes are unlocked with maybe an hour or two's investment in this game and you really want to pay money for something you can make a part of your game play instead? That's not very logical.
By the way, the true option would be to allow people to pay for items you would have to normally grind for. What you're actually describing is a mandatory opt in if you want said part that should be free. Look at it this way. Paragon studios created that costume part by paying an artist to create the part with the monthly fee that I already pay. In my mind that Super Booster is already paid for and therefore should be free because the artist created it on my dime already. I'm essentially paying $25 a month sometimes for that content upgrade that I was already promised from the get go. Sounds like a raw deal to me.
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Did some sort of Shadowrun or Cyberpuck game get out of hand in the Roleplaying forum? This Corporate Illuminate crap is getting a little out of hand.
| I know I'm pissing off a lot of people here. Let me just say that the devs. do seem sincere in their efforts. In fact, I would wager that all these pathetic little microtransactions are the work of the marketing department or the higher ups at NC Soft, not the actual devs. that deal directly with us and the game itself. Still, the policy they've had of late makes me angry because they are counting on the gullibility of their player base. |
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Hey man, I kind of have an idea of how the business world works. People in the programming or art department are not going to give two damns about microtransactions. That's a marketing decision and comes from other marketing executives higher up on the food chain. This kind of scheming does (and obviously) go on.
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
Did some sort of Shadowrun or Cyberpuck game get out of hand in the Roleplaying forum? This Corporate Illuminate crap is getting a little out of hand.
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While I wouldn't say I agree with some of Invisobill's stronger points, such as saying that the game only has about two years left of life, I do agree with him that the booster packs seem to be getting a bit out of hand.
In the overall, I'd say it's not too bad as long as they don't start locking out powersets or zones based on booster packs.
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The process here seems pretty simple. Someone at NC Soft comes up with the idea for a booster. They try it, it makes enough money that they like it, therefore they make more. |
Originally Posted by Tidbit Jr.
While I wouldn't say I agree with some of Invisobill's stronger points, such as saying that the game only has about two years left of life, I do agree with him that the booster packs seem to be getting a bit out of hand.
In the overall, I'd say it's not too bad as long as they don't start locking out powersets or zones based on booster packs. |
Your later point is sort of moot. We already have boosters that lock out zones and powersets, we call them expansions.
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In the board summary, this thread looks like it says "Last post: Devs, get back to normal"
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You're just now figuring out how money gets circulated?
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Originally Posted by Invisobill
By the way, the true option would be to allow people to pay for items you would have to normally grind for. What you're actually describing is a mandatory opt in if you want said part that should be free. Look at it this way. Paragon studios created that costume part by paying an artist to create the part with the monthly fee that I already pay. In my mind that Super Booster is already paid for and therefore should be free because the artist created it on my dime already. I'm essentially paying $25 a month sometimes for that content upgrade that I was already promised from the get go. Sounds like a raw deal to me.
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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
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@Golden Girl
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Please reveal the means by which you have access to their accounting data, and can prove that they did not invest money in it from some other source, paying it off with the revenue from selling the booster pack.
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Originally Posted by Invisobill
Paragon studios created that costume part by paying an artist to create the part with the monthly fee that I already pay.
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How dare they pay for a service after we paid for a service! I mean, it's not like once the transaction is done that it's none of our business what they do with their money! |
Originally Posted by seebs
Please reveal the means by which you have access to their accounting data, and can prove that they did not invest money in it from some other source, paying it off with the revenue from selling the booster pack.
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The only way to stop them making booster packs is to force them to not make the stuff we request them to make - so the next time David Nakayama tries to trick us with one of those art threads asking us what we'd like to see added to the game, we need to lie and tell him about stuff we don't want in the game, so when they turn those requests into new boosters, we won't be forced to buy them.
@Golden Girl
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I wouldn't really categorize expansion packs as boosters, per se. It's sort of like referring to a midterm and then calling it a final exam. Sure, they're both tests, but one is larger and has more content.
| Your later point is sort of moot. We already have boosters that lock out zones and powersets, we call them expansions. |
@Golden Girl
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