I hate what super boosters have done to the community
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Posted on: 2010-10-15 05:16 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
While I agree somewhat, I also realize that what I am paying is a pittance per hour and I have no real issue supporting the development pace that they are on. Besides, you don't have to get the packs which is one of the best ways that I can influence what they do or don't do in the future. So pack or no, they have yet to ask for so much money that I am looking elsewhere.
Sometimes ideas people have may be good ideas, but aren't in the direction where the Development team wants to allocate resources. By framing the suggestion in the form of a Booster, it provides incentive to the Development team to give the idea a second look. Presumably, some things are issue material and others are Booster material, though that's supposition on my part.
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I seriously doubt people put that much thought into it.
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
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Some of the boosters are worth while. The Ninja pack is a must have.
I wouldn't be surprised if they make more 'must have ' boosters. So you're forced to buy it on top of your sub. In fact I'm surprised they didn't make inherent stamina into a super booster.
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Ouch <grabs popcorn and waits on fanboi's to show>
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Originally Posted by Dz131
I wouldn't be surprised if they make more 'must have ' boosters. So you're forced to buy it on top of your sub. In fact I'm surprised they didn't make inherent stamina into a super booster.
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Originally Posted by Dz131
I wouldn't be surprised if they make more 'must have ' boosters.
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I seriously doubt your rationale in this thread had more thought than what people put in to their proposals|
Originally Posted by Vanden
I seriously doubt people put that much thought into it.
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Look, the idea Kasoh provides certainly isn't new- and it's been bandied about by devs both here and elsewhere. Heck, the idea's been around so long that I wouldn't think it required much thought at all to people that try to stay informed in the industry.
If the project doesn't have the breadth of appeal necessary to justify getting it on the development schedule, but it would be appealing enough to a small segment of the population to reasonably pay for itself, why not do it and charge? They're essentially saying "I like this idea enough to pay extra for it."
( Of course, you have to take their claims with a grain of salt. I've heard time and again that the desire for more dance emotes was so great that "I'd pay for new dances." The devs come out with a pack of 2 dances plus a few others, and suddenly people scream bloody murder. )
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No, it isn't. I don't have it and I don't want it.
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Originally Posted by KnG
Some of the boosters are worth while. The Ninja pack is a must have.
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So nice to know that anytime anyone disagrees with the OP they're automatically put into the fanboi category.|
Originally Posted by Exodus_V
Ouch <grabs popcorn and waits on fanboi's to show>
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The OP is wrong, but that doesn't mean people that think so are defending the Devs.
We've gotten more content because of the existence of booster packs, not in spite of them, and more often. The great part about them is if you don't want it, you don't have to pay for it, and if you do want it, there's no unlocking costumes with badges, there's no unreasonable level-locked temp powers...none of that.
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Originally Posted by Gaming_Glen
No, it isn't. I don't have it and I don't want it.
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I don't have the mac/valkyrie pack nor the dance pack. I'm glad I've purchased the others. I hope that the devs lost money on the dance pack so that they don't pull that crap again.
I don't like that only those who bought the science pack can change their height/gender.
I dig exploding. I dig ninja run.
I'm fine with booster packs. Another 10 bucks on top of the nearly $200 I spend a year on sub fees isn't a big deal to me. If it was, I wouldn't have spent it.
Be well, people of CoH.
Doesn't bother me. My only real concern is that free items will stop making it into the game.
I think most people feel their suggestions have a better chance of making it into a booster than free into the game.
Me, I have all of the boosters. I teetered on the Dance pack, but when it hit, I had some extra cash.
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What am I wrong about? My OP is about how I hate that people now are entirely too eager to suggest things be booster packs. That's an opinion.
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
The OP is wrong, but that doesn't mean people that think so are defending the Devs.
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Issue 16 made me feel like this.
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Sorry to nitpick but I hate when I see stuff worded like "free" It aint free nothing is free in this game. They charge roughly $15 a month to roughly 100K people that's roughly 1.5million dollars a month. If you think 1.5million dollars is free well. The so called "free stuff" is actually what keeps the game going, booster packs just help little side projects.|
Originally Posted by Zyphoid
Doesn't bother me. My only real concern is that free items will stop making it into the game.
I think most people feel their suggestions have a better chance of making it into a booster than free into the game. Me, I have all of the boosters. I teetered on the Dance pack, but when it hit, I had some extra cash. |
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I'm planning on buying the dance pack when i19 hits. I think i19 is awesome enough to pay for it, so I'm going to pretend I'm paying for i19, and getting the emotes for free.
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Originally Posted by Zyphoid
I teetered on the Dance pack, but when it hit, I had some extra cash.
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I'm of the opinion that I'd like to have our Devs be as unrestricted as possible to develop new and interesting content for this game. If the difference between developing some new optional QoL feature I want in this game relies on me spending an extra $9.99 every couple of months and not spending that money, I'll choose to spend the money.|
Originally Posted by Vanden
My OP is about how I hate that people now are entirely too eager to suggest things be booster packs. That's an opinion.
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Sure I'd love to have everything like this given to me for free.
But the people who run this game run it as a business, not a charity.
If they want to charge a few extra bucks for giving me extra content it's incredibly hard to claim that isn't fair.
We've been spoiled into getting lots of new features for free over the years.
But nothing in the $15/month we pay for subscriptions REQUIRES the Devs to give us anything extra for free and never did. *shrugs*
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Because I want to actually use the costume pieces, and if I don't pay money for them, they'll get stuck behind running the Alpha TF three times, killing 1000 War Walkers, having been subscribed for 100 months or possessing 500 badges or some other nonsense like that.|
Originally Posted by Vanden
Why are people so damn eager to get rid of their money?
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Recent content seems to suggest this is now less likely the case than it was before, but as long as we have a Vanguard set which costs 1000 Merits, Rularuu weapons which require 100 level 40+ Overseers which always spawn in groups of twos and threes, Nictus Romulus items which require doing the ITF twice on the same character and Rikti weapons which can only be unlcoked in rare, annoying, lag-infested events, I choose to disbelief that anything has changed in a meaningful way.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Originally Posted by Vanden
I seriously doubt people put that much thought into it.
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Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
I seriously doubt your rationale in this thread had more thought than what people put in to their proposals
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Originally Posted by Flarstux
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But I'd happily pay for a booster to stop it raining all bloody August.
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Originally Posted by Lucky
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You then suggested that people who do suggest things as booster packs don't put much thought into it. That assertion could be wrong or right.|
Originally Posted by Vanden
What am I wrong about? My OP is about how I hate that people now are entirely too eager to suggest things be booster packs. That's an opinion.
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Your OP opinion is also based on an observation that is not backed by any supplied empirical data. (that peoples suggestion process has more eagerly volunteered the idea of packaging it in a booster). As no actual numbers are supplied showing that there IS a marked increase in people volunteering to part with their money, there is a chance that your opinion is based on an incorrect perception. You're still entitled to that opinion, but it could still be a WRONG condition under those observations.
After all, I can recall many suggestions made BEFORE booster packs where people suggested they'd "pay more" for X. X could have been a PvP setup, an enforced RP server, more dance emotes, powerset customization, etc. It was a frequently-used expression. Post-booster-pack, people are just using that term to explain it. We could take a sample of suggestions before and after the intriduction of such packs to get a feel of whether this expression of "paying for extra" has increased, and whether the increase correlates with the introduction of boosters, to determine the true validity of your assertion....
Sure, you could argue that the burden is on everyone else to PROVE you are wrong, but usually the burden of proof is on the person suggesting that things have changed in some way.
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I'd buy that booster pack!
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Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
Sure, you could argue that the burden is on everyone else to PROVE you are wrong, but usually the burden of proof is on the person suggesting that things have changed in some way. |
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
It seems like whenever someone comes up with an idea they like, if not them then someone who agrees with them will go, "Yeah! It could be a super booster!"
No! Why are people so damn eager to get rid of their money?
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
Warning: This poster likes to play Devil's Advocate.