The Single Most Damaging Attack


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So if you're reading this thread then you've probably read the title and you know what it's about.

Assuming optimal conditions (maxed out damage buff, debuffed resists etc) and assuming a standard, non-temp power, what power can do the most damage to a single target in a single activation?

Assassin's whatevers, snipes and so on are going to be a special case, of course...


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It might be Blizzard, assuming target is immobilized in the area of effect AND all of the tics hit.

I am not sure that the Blizzard pseudo-pet inherits all of the caster's buffs, so it might be enough of a special case to not really be the highest damage. Also, that's damage over time. If you are looking for the single biggest orange number, Blizzard won't even be close. But seeing a string of 150 small numbers is pretty amazing too


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Maxed out Blaster Total Focus ftw!




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If not Blizzard do to its psuedo pet nature, then I would think Brute Energy Transfer.


 

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Stalker's Assassin Strike with Hecatomb set slotted, Build Up and Hide in effect would be pretty strong.


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I don't know what the attack will be, but I am betting it will be paired with a dose of Fiery Embrace for maximum goodness.


 

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HA the next attack I throw with anything at anybody !!!!!

Thats my mindset... if this attack dont get you the next one will !!!!!


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Pushing someone off the tallest building in Paragon would be pretty devastating.


 

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Originally Posted by RadioSilence View Post
Kicking someone off the tallest building in Paragon would be pretty devastating.
That's better. There's a reason I slot an obscene amount of KB into Crane Kick.


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Assuming that lightning rod on a scrapper inherits damage buffs and can crit, I think it wins. At scrapper's 500% damage cap, and with a crit, it does almost 3000 damage. Blizzard is about 2500.


 

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Lightning rod can't crit.

Also, Inferno from a Fire Blaster does the most damage if it's DoT sticks while he's at the damage cap.

EDIT:

Inferno does 2721.5 damage at the damage cap if the DoT sticks.

The highest non-nuke attack is a scrapper's Greater Fire Sword with Fiery embrace and a crit at 2201 damage.


 

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Originally Posted by Kidou View Post
Lightning rod can't crit.

Also, Inferno from a Fire Blaster does the most damage if it's DoT sticks while he's at the damage cap.

EDIT:

Inferno does 2721.5 damage at the damage cap if the DoT sticks.

The highest non-nuke attack is a scrapper's Greater Fire Sword with Fiery embrace and a crit at 2201 damage.
Corruptor Blizzard at the Damage cap if it Scourges every tick after the enemy hits 50% will do more. Supposing the target had enough HP to need the full damage about 3750.


 

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For single target it would be Knockout Blow


 

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From Hidden with as much +dmg as possible: Build up > Placate > Double Assassin's Strike.

I don't believe they've fixed that bug but if you use Placate while hidden, there's a 10% chance for base AS dmg x2 + assassination bonus damage.

Probably not the most damaging but putting it on the table


 

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Originally Posted by Leo_G View Post
From Hidden with as much +dmg as possible: Build up > Placate > Double Assassin's Strike.

I don't believe they've fixed that bug but if you use Placate while hidden, there's a 10% chance for base AS dmg x2 + assassination bonus damage.

Probably not the most damaging but putting it on the table
If it still works, against a single target it is the top:

(139+250*2)*5 = 3195


 

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Whatever it is, I dunno.

What it SHOULD be is some kind of Blaster attack.


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For single target it would be Knockout Blow
Nah, Energy transfer is stronger. And for Scrappers, Greater Fire sword.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this is about what I think it is.

GFS: 2201
Inferno: 2721.5
Blizzard with average scourge: 2927.925
Blizzard with full scourge: 5005

@ -300% Res
GFS: 6603
Inferno: 8164.5
Blizzard with average scourge: 8783.775
Blizzard with full scourge: 15015


 

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Originally Posted by Kidou View Post
Nah, Energy transfer is stronger. And for Scrappers, Greater Fire sword.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this is about what I think it is.

GFS: 2201
Inferno: 2721.5
Blizzard with average scourge: 2927.925
Blizzard with full scourge: 5005

@ -300% Res
GFS: 6603
Inferno: 8164.5
Blizzard with average scourge: 8783.775
Blizzard with full scourge: 15015
If Scrappers did have KO Blow a full crit from it at the damage cap would just barely nudge out your GFS number.

(158/.8)*1.125*2*5 = 2227


 

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Originally Posted by Silverado View Post
For single target it would be Knockout Blow
Energy Transfer deals more damage than KoB. Outside of criticals/scourge, it would be the best damage per click single target attack at the damage cap, with the stalker slightly edging out the brute.


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Probably not what the OP meant, but the highest damage attack that still exists in the game and is repeatable is the attack that Steel Canyon buildings execute on targets when the buildings explode. They have a bug in the coding that the devs have never bothered to fix because it gets the job done: they will do, at level 50 (meaning the level of the target), something like about 360 times your health in damage, whatever your health (as in health bar size) is at the moment of detonation.

I think we calculated that this little exercise caused the detonation to deliver over eight million points of damage to the Kronos Titan. Per damage tick. For three ticks. Plus one more tick of about a half million. About 26 million points of damage total.

Too bad you can't buff the building.


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Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
Probably not what the OP meant, but the highest damage attack that still exists in the game and is repeatable is the attack that Steel Canyon buildings execute on targets when the buildings explode. They have a bug in the coding that the devs have never bothered to fix because it gets the job done: they will do, at level 50 (meaning the level of the target), something like about 360 times your health in damage, whatever your health (as in health bar size) is at the moment of detonation.

I think we calculated that this little exercise caused the detonation to deliver over eight million points of damage to the Kronos Titan. Per damage tick. For three ticks. Plus one more tick of about a half million. About 26 million points of damage total.

Too bad you can't buff the building.
while this is hilarious and true, i think the OP was talking about powers usable by the player

in terms of general powers, yes that is the most damaging power excluding bugs


 

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I actually had it listed as Corruptor Blizzard (specifically, since that's the only one that Scourges) a while back - and it's still the case if you have a target with a ridiculous number of hit points so that you can hit Blizzard while it's guaranteed to Scourge (ie, they're under 10% health).

However, my numbers were off when I did that, solely because I forgot about one minor detail - Blizzard is a pet, and thus has a 400% damage cap, not the 500% I was using. It still has the top spot in conditional and corner cases, but not as a general case: if all of the ticks hit, and all of them Scourge, it will do 4002 damage to each target in a single activation (note that this means it deals a capped damage of 2001 for Blasters and Defenders, and edges higher only due to Scourge for Corruptors).

Coming in next is Blaster Inferno, which at the damage cap and assuming all of the ticks hit, will do 2736.45 damage. The double critical on Assassin's Strike, on a damage capped Stalker, will do 2641.55 (it's ([139.03 * 2] + 250.25) * 5, not (139.03 + [250.25 * 2]) * 5), and this is the hardest you're going to see immediately since the other powers deal their full damage over 15 seconds (for Blizzard) or 8.1 seconds (for the DoT on Inferno). If you're just looking at what the initial hit does, the initial blast for Inferno is 1876.8 at the cap if both of the "chance for" ticks hit, which is less than a damage capped Assassin's Strike "from hidden" critical at 1946.4; also note that the double critical isn't completely reliable but does happen at the Stalker's regular critical rate after a Placate (so it's as valid to use as any Scrapper critical).


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while this is hilarious and true, i think the OP was talking about powers usable by the player
Probably, in which case I believe Siolfir's post represents the best that players can do. I don't think anything exists that can compete with the theoretical scale 18 damage that Blizzard can pump out if all ticks land and all ticks Scourge. Nothing else really comes close to that.

The normalized value of the AS double crit is equivalent to a scale 4.75 attack criting at the damage cap. That too seems to be higher than anything else I can think of that players wield in terms of non-rains.


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