Fitness is dead; long live Fitness.

Hmm. This is... interesting. Obviously, the impact on leveling speed will be profound. But I'm not sure how much this will actually change most of my builds. All but a very few of my characters are already pretty slot-starved. Three more power picks is nice, but there's just so little I want to do with those picks that I'd be able to do effectively. Meh, oh well... I'll figure that out when it gets revealed exactly how it's going to work. Anyway, that's my only complaint, is that it will make my build planning just a little bit more complicated... so overall, very good news!

Edit: They mentioned new power pools or expansions to existing pools too, right? I'm pretty sure I heard something like that somewhere. I'll be interested in getting a look at how many of those powers are designed with minimal slotting in mind...

Edited Edit: Ah. New power pool crap being discussed, but not actually worked on yet. Ok.

So does this mean the fitness pool will be entirely gone? Or will there still be a Fitness pool to choose from in addition to the new inherent?

The reason I am asking, is because if they move the pool in its entirety, then I will still have to fully slot them both. If I needed them 4-6 slotted before, then I will still need them 4-6 slotted. So I gain 3 new powers but no extra slots. Sure I could add the leadership pool, but look how much endurance that pool would cost. Some of my toons could take recall friend, but out of that pool I wouldn't need anything else. And so on.

Which leads me to this question. Why can't or wouldn't they lower the start of the 3 slot lvls. Move it from lvl 33 to say lvl 23. That would add 5 new slots and really allow us to benefit from the new inherents.

Just a thought.

This is pretty cool. I'm all for this, and have a few character who will love this change.

There may be a few sets getting a bit of an unintended indirect nerf though.
Energy Aura springs to mind. It's pretty much bottom of the barrel for Brutes but at least it lets you skip Fitness. Power Sink, one of its set defining powers, has just been devalued here.

Regen and Willpower are both pretty competitive in their own domains, so they'll feel it less. Ditto for Kinetics. Electrical blast is a low end performer, but its end return was pretty negligible anyway - I don't think many people were successfully foregoing Stamina on that.

Oh great, I just remembered. I took Fitness on my Grav/TA Controller as filler powers, going so far as to take Stamina at 49. Now where am I going to use those power picks? Awesome change, but going to bring a lot of work with it.

Ok, let's see... already took Group Flight for concept...

So do I get extra slots now to slot the fitness inherents? I mean seriously thats 4 new inherent powers that are going to be there. I'm going to want to slot them, but if I do that and have 3 extra powers, now my slots are running even thinner.

Not to mention, ALL of my toons have fitness. That means respecs to all of them. Unless they keep the pool and the inherents. In which case, more end and health for me I suppose.

I hope that they handle this carefully, I have a lot of toons balanced just the way I want them, 3 new powers opening up and having 4 new inherents is going to gum up the works big time.

I think this change seems very interesting. Still, I'm wondering how they'll get around the fact that most people already have 3 or 4 powers from the Fitness pool when they make it inherent. Will these kind of characters just be grandfathered in that they have both power pool Fitness and inherent Fitness? Will they be forced to respec?

The only thing I'm not looking forward to is respeccing most of my characters when this hits... Though, the min/maxer in me is screaming with joy as my main can finally get Aid Self and Taunt!

I've always wanted a fifth power pool option; this seems like a reasonable solution to that, and makes the high-teens more interesting to play through.

I can't understand the nagativity towards this change. It makes levelling up more interesting as no 'forced' power picks and you won't have to rest as much. No extra slots are needed, just need to utilise the slots you have to maximum effectiveness.

For me a lot more of my alts will take things like recall friend, invisibility, assault which all work fine without slotting.

Honestly, you people will complain about anything.

This is a fantastic change.

I'm glad to see this change. However, I hope the general difficulty of the game is tweaked correspondingly (at least blueside). With IOs, booster packs, temperary powers, veteran powers and now this, much of the content has been to a varying degree rendered trivial.

This is great news! Personally I'll have to change quite a few builds. With the whole span from Stamina-less builds running Leadership and Fighting to characters with Fitness who can't move slots to the power choices opening up I'm still very pleased that we're getting just that - power choices. I can't remember the first time this was brought up, but it probably dates back to the initial beta - choices feeling "mandatory" for a primary/secondary combination aren't really choices.

OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.

I swear some of you could be in the desert, dying of dehydration and someone could come along and offer you a bottle of water for free and you would complain because it is not the brand you normally drink. Or that there is no ice and no glass provided and the plastic screws up the environment and they only had a 20oz bottle instead of the 16.9oz ones you like and the bottle had those little screw on lids that only have like 1.5 turns on them that fall off too easy and the guy didn't even have any crystal light mix packets to add flavor because plain water is boring and.......