Instant leveling fromNCSoft?


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Originally Posted by stellar View Post
Westly seems to have missed the 2 IMO's in there, and nowhere did i say that i couldnt play a toon well without it - it just for me, flows better when i have it. Nice strawman tho. I hate responding to a trollish post - usually i dont have a prob with his, but my question remains.

If ppl were able to pay to get to 14, (6 for long term vets) for travel power lvl, or what have you - would that be reasonable to you all?
With all due respect I find the idea unacceptable regardless of level.


 

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I'd totally use it. On the rare occasions I want to play through the content, I have more fun exemping down to do it from 50 than doing it on the way up.


 

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Originally Posted by KayJMM View Post
But... but... it was a button!

It was big... rounded... red...

And had something written on it...

I was pretty certain that the word was DANCER... I think i need to upgrade my glasses...

I almost quit my SG the other day because of that.

Stupid big red buttons.


 

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10$ to autolevel a 'toon to 50, w/influence and merits to match? if someone wants to shell out the cash to just get 1 alt to 50, sure, why not? either they'd draw up another alt and play it through, or shell out another 10$ for ANOTHER 50 or whatever it costs to transfer characters from server to server, or they leave. are any of these options that big a deal to people?


 

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Originally Posted by BubblegumBomb View Post
...It will also give players a chance to not have to level grind another character...
I haven't read this thread so I bet someone may have already said this but - what you call "level grinding another character" others call "playing the game". The phrase "start out at 50" sounds something like an oxymoron to me.


 

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Personally I think that maybe as a final vet award you could get a free 50 token, but maybe that belongs in another thread. I dunno, final vet award, been everywhere, done all that, want to try out some powerset combo that might be the only one that you haven't tried yet, I'd still have a long way to go, only at 11 months, but it would be something to look forward to.


 

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Lol, So much fail in that idea.

If you want a 50 you gotta earn it. You can't stop gold sellers, you have to ignore them. No way would i spend real cash on inf and an auto 50.

It's all too easy as it is.


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Originally Posted by Power_NA View Post
I bet ouit of ALL of my ideas this is the worst.... Hey wait, this not mine... Please yell at him bad ideas is my job. There is no point in being level 50, like 90% of poeple would do it, then there will be barely any teams at all from level 1-48.

So, NO, NO, NO, infinity times NO, and no LOL.
This speaks VOLUMES about how bad of an idea this is: Even POWER thinks it's a bad idea.

For those that don't know, Power has a reputation for spewing out bad ideas incessantly. It's gotten to the point that it's almost more endearing than annoying (almost). The fact that HE thinks this is a bad idea says a lot.


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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint View Post
WTF are you talking about? how does RMT sales falling through the floor have anything to do with how NC markets this game? did you not understand what i said?

What I'm saying is that the RMTers have tailed off so drastically anyhow that they are no longer a problem.

They are no longer a problem because they ain't making any money.

They ain't making any money because the players online are shrinking month by month - there's nobody around to peddle their wares to.



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Okay first I agree with Obsidus .. bad idea all the way around. Okay I pay my $10 and now have a completely broke 50 level that can't afford a single enhancement... so what's the first thing most players are going to do? Head straight to PI or the AE building and star farming because now they want, and short of a LOT exemplaring.. which sort of defeats the whole purpose of BUYING a 50 level to begin with, IOs... more over they want PURPLES so they can be Uber awesome. Frankly I don't see this hurting those "we can level you or we will sell you Influence sites" one bit.. in fact it may increase the sales they have because now that dead broke 50 want CASH and wants it fast.. Let's face facts if he or she was willing to spend 10 dollars to get a 50 level I seriously doubt they'd balk at spending more to make them rich quick as well.

I won't go into detail on the whole "Okay you now have a 50 level .. whatever but do you have a clue how to play it?" It's an old arguement and there are way to many people on both sides .. some saying I can play anything and don't need to learn my power and others insisting the normal leveling they missed now means at level 50 they know as much about this new character as a 1 level in Outbreak. I will say I know some people are now selling their account on Ebay and there are players out there with a TON of Vet badges that play the game like they started last week.

Frankly my question is what is the point? Okay a brand new player to the game buys a 50 level character and let's say by some miracle actually learns quickly and does well. Does well at what? Repeatedly running ITFs, LGTFs, Mothership Raid, Hamidon raids and some newspaper missions? Not to say that as soon as you hit 50 life is over. I manage to keep my 50s active but I also enjoy creating new characters with different power sets and learning how to play them successfully. By skipping level 1 through 49 they missed almost all of the content people have been screaming to get for years and now if they want it.. the need to exemplar down to see it.. so they spent 10 bucks and are now losing levels to see what they could have seen for free if they just rolled a character normally and started as a one level.

The idea behind leveling is to make a player feel good about themselves.. "I accomplished THIS today!" I created a DP Blaster the first day DP became available. I hit the sewers and then KR with a good team and in no time I was level 14. Before Double XP weekend even hit I was over 22 and slotting with SOs and now that character is closing in on 40 level and it's not the only one I play. People moan that the lower levels are boring.. unless you solo constantly they fly by so fast I really don't understand that at all. Heck a freind and I duo missions with a ILL/FF Controller and a EMP/AR Defender. We have now taken to playing constantly at +1 difficulty and both of us are at 38 pushing 39.. we play together a few hours a night a few days a week. Anyone that claims they can't find a team isn't trying very hard because I can find them quite easily and even start them myself when no one else is around to take the leadership role. If you ONLY want to solo.. Yeah ts going to take a lot longer so either deal with that fact or change your mind set and join a TEAM once in a while.. BUYING a 50 level is not the answer.


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Frankly my question is what is the point? Okay a brand new player to the game buys a 50 level character and let's say by some miracle actually learns quickly and does well. Does well at what? Repeatedly running ITFs, LGTFs, Mothership Raid, Hamidon raids and some newspaper missions?
Why do people say that like it's nothing, or very little. To me those are the things in the game that are the most fun. Additionally, you have all of Ouro to go and do... And you get to have 2-3 more powers doing them that way than you would have if you'd played through them on the way up...


 

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I'd use it at least once. Not because it would give me an instant level 50, but because it's a button.

Curiosity trumps principle, here.
Haha! YES! I remember the GURPS rules used to use unrestrained button pushing as an example of how the Curiosity disadvantage differed from the type of curiosity that normal people feel.

Anyway, I'm against the idea of pay-for level 50 characters, but I'm fine with the idea of a veteran reward (say, at 51 months) that lets you make a new character ONCE on that account that is level 50. I'd use that to remake my DM/WP as DM/SR.

I am against an auto-level veteran reward for all characters to 20 or 22. I want it but I think it would hurt the game by making all the old timers skip past the newbies who are trying to meet people.

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Originally Posted by Veritech View Post
10$ to autolevel a 'toon to 50, w/influence and merits to match? if someone wants to shell out the cash to just get 1 alt to 50, sure, why not? either they'd draw up another alt and play it through, or shell out another 10$ for ANOTHER 50 or whatever it costs to transfer characters from server to server, or they leave. are any of these options that big a deal to people?

Why is this a bad idea?

Gee, for only $10 bucks I can get a ton of influence and a bunch of merits I can use to cherry pick the most expensive recipes on the market to sell for even more influence. Then I transfer the loot to another character and delete the $10 dollar scrub.

Yeah no one would ever abuse the feature like that.

/jranger


 

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RMT's or gold farmers???

Haven't seen those goobers in awhile.

Auto 50 option just doesn't sound good and everyone has already posted everything I could have thought off,so nah I'll pass.


 

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Originally Posted by Lucky View Post
Thye should just make a PVP server for those of us sick of the grind. Have instant 50s free accolades and any recipes from a vendor. It would only be a pvp server so I dont see the harm.

But of course lolpvp nothing like this is ever gonna be done most likely. sigh.
You mean besides maintaining two codebases (PvE and PVP)? Thereby doubling development time and testing? I agree there is no harm.

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First, and foremost, I'm /unsigned from the idea for all the various reasons posted before me.

But, something else has to be pointed out that may not have been. In order for a freshly minted Level 50 to enjoy access to Oroborous arcs, that purchased character must have a series of contacts from which to choose uncompleted arcs. But the purchased character is a tabula rasa, a blank slate. The character will never have selected any contacts.

This is important, because many times you are presented with several contacts to choose from.

Who's going to make those choices? The game client? Are you going to let it foist undesirable contact choices (and their arcs) upon you?

Thinking you can simply create a new level 50 character and hit the ground running is simplistic and naive. It's not just a case of leveling the character. It would require additional software to determine which contacts the character wants to interact with. That's new code, new user interfaces, and possibly new artwork.

Again, /unsigned.


 

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Originally Posted by Effy_On_Malibu View Post
Lol, So much fail in that idea.

If you want a 50 you gotta earn it. You can't stop gold sellers, you have to ignore them. No way would i spend real cash on inf and an auto 50.

It's all too easy as it is.
yah you're right.....thinking too positively here. lol


 

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First, and foremost, I'm /unsigned from the idea for all the various reasons posted before me.

But, something else has to be pointed out that may not have been. In order for a freshly minted Level 50 to enjoy access to Oroborous arcs, that purchased character must have a series of contacts from which to choose uncompleted arcs. But the purchased character is a tabula rasa, a blank slate. The character will never have selected any contacts.

This is important, because many times you are presented with several contacts to choose from.

Who's going to make those choices? The game client? Are you going to let it foist undesirable contact choices (and their arcs) upon you?

Thinking you can simply create a new level 50 character and hit the ground running is simplistic and naive. It's not just a case of leveling the character. It would require additional software to determine which contacts the character wants to interact with. That's new code, new user interfaces, and possibly new artwork.

Again, /unsigned.
Ummm Oroboros doesn't care if you have that contact in your list or not...


 

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Originally Posted by BubblegumBomb View Post
I was just thinking.....

Really?
Could have fooled me!


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Why is this a bad idea?

Gee, for only $10 bucks I can get a ton of influence and a bunch of merits I can use to cherry pick the most expensive recipes on the market to sell for even more influence. Then I transfer the loot to another character and delete the $10 dollar scrub.

Yeah no one would ever abuse the feature like that.

/jranger

Why would that character get any inf? Even if the devs allowed the auto-level, I can't see them ever giving free inf. That would completely destroy any semblemce of an economy in the game.

On the other hand, allowing a character to auto-level to 50 along with the new feature we are already getting that allows players to e-mail inf to themselves serves as a very effective inf sink that actualy helps reduce inflation by effectively removing money from the game. Seems like a win/win to me.


 

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I reiterate my earlier point:

POWER thinks this is a bad idea.

Does anything else really need to be said?

The fact that Power doesn't like this idea is enough to convince me that it is very possibly the worst idea ever conceived of in the history of the forums. (Seriously, have you SEEN some of the stuff that guy has come up with?!)


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Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker View Post
What I'm saying is that the RMTers have tailed off so drastically anyhow that they are no longer a problem.

They are no longer a problem because they ain't making any money.

They ain't making any money because the players online are shrinking month by month - there's nobody around to peddle their wares to.
really, can i have some data to back that up that people are leaving this game? the "just because i said so" angle just doesn't work. i can understand if you are talking about the EU servers( sorry guys, no disrespect meant to you ) but the NA servers? i really think i saw smoke coming out of your butt.


 

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Originally Posted by Darc_Ranger View Post
One of the few things I like about CO is option to auto lvl a character on test via a contact. That could work great to test new content or new powers without the need for the Devs to bump us via update. I thought that was were the OP was going.

I would dislike any MT for lvls on live.
Actually that'd be fine with me: an auto-level option on Test (only) would be ok. Otherwise, I gotta say no, for all the reasons outlined. But for just Test? Yeah I don't see a problem there.


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm View Post
Is this a joke?
Not at all. In fact several several MMO's out there already offer this feature. For instance in the game Ultima you can go to their website and not only pick what level you want to start off at but also what kind of equipment you want your toon to be outfitted with. The online store then calculates how much that toon would cost and gives you a price. If you choose to you can slap down the cash and bingo they give you the toon.


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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
This speaks VOLUMES about how bad of an idea this is: Even POWER thinks it's a bad idea.

For those that don't know, Power has a reputation for spewing out bad ideas incessantly. It's gotten to the point that it's almost more endearing than annoying (almost). The fact that HE thinks this is a bad idea says a lot.
lol, He then improved it and started his own thread of same topic in the proper section. *Pats Power on the back* that's awesome.