EU gets shafted - AGAIN!

I can understand, that for some of the enthusiasts among us, no physical possession of an addition to their favourite game - in contrast to stock NA-side - can be quite agitating. However looking at the whole spectrum they are probably running some sort of risk-management, I doubt the release of 'Going Rogue' would generate numbers suffice to say that it was appropriate to do so. A digital 'copy' reduces the potential financial failure of release on this side significantly, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if the server to download it from is based in NA, hence I think it's probably a risk-management conclusion. I'm afraid we have to be a little brutal in honesty, our numbers are dwindling however slowly but surely, so there is no surprise but I do agree with concerns posted above.

I do understand that the principle behind this is entirely wrong, there has been no correspondence and explanation nor reasoning for this, which would in my opinion would be enough to warrant us to back off. Fair enough Avatea has, with all due respect, baited us to fend off our rants for a while, it's not the same. I'm not requesting a direct correspondence or an immediate response, however I welcome it, but I honestly can not remember the last time we were bothered about.

The sheer ignorance we are being awarded is frankly beyond insulting. Both parties, I am a EU-user, know this has been going on for further than it should and unfortunately I think we know where it's heading. Several fellow subscribers and I have discussed the situation, and sadly we all seem to at least conclude that it's inevitable were going sometime, not any time soon clearly nor within this year but D00m is unavoidable. Since I'm discussing slightly off-topic I'll stop at that. The fantastic thing is, I'm not being bitter just extremely disappointed and agitated.

Back to the author's point, I suppose the fact we didn't get the 'Mission Architect Box' either, someone clarify please I can't remember, should have been a forewarning on what else was to come.

P.S Anyone who complains of us being victimized can go "P1ss off". I'm fed up of that already.
Also, I've had to FIX my updater literally more than 7 times in the past 3 days. Good ol' EU treatment.

Fury

I'm amazed at the number of people in this thread who have marketing experience.

C'mon, the games four years old and the UK isn't all that big. Game shops barely stock PC games anymore as it is and music CD's have dropped right off the radar too. I'm glad Cryptic isn't wasting the money on putting out a load of boxes that just aren't going to sell. Anyone here who wants a box is probably going to still hit up the Digital Download. Yes it sucks to lose the chance to own a box, but really is it that big a deal?

If people haven't heard about CoH by word of mouth yet then MMO's probably aren't their thing to begin with or they never really planned on buying it.

Now an advert on Steam or getting Penny Arcade to do a comic? That's worth a go, but don't demand they toss money away on something they've already been told is a bad idea.

If people were complaining that we were promised a box set I'd say fair deal, I only recall it being mentioned once though. I wasn't talking to the thread as a whole anyway, so no need to be quite so defensive.

As for the rest of the points. The EU isn't NA.

You can't apply the same logic to both. We're a big group of different countries, they're a pretty freakin' huge unified one. They presumably still get a good return through game stores on PC games, while we're slowly seeing them disappear entirely.

Yes we'd get a few more players if the boxes hit the shelves here. But they're not going to do it if it just ends up wasting more money than it brings in. Deriding them for being fiscally responsible isn't helping, suggestions of how better to spend the money might!

Advertisement that'll actually reach people?

The CoH sale on Steam went really well, I know several people who bought it by seeing it on there. Plus they hit both the NA and EU with it, so its likely well worth the money.

I don't really know all the options available to them, but joint advertisement like that serves them nicely as it lets them boost EU numbers, without feeling like they're tossing the money away on a much smaller market.

The short and (not so) sweet of it is that NCSoft has refocused their attention away from the European market. The reasons behind that shift might have been good or they might have been bad, but regardless it affects us, the European players, negatively. *shrugs* C'est la vie, as they say on Vigilance.

well after pming every red name i can get hold of when there online i have yet to hear a reply about where the eu goes from here. when will we be heard? why have we been told that there is a voice listening and jack **** to come from it? are we just going to be left and fobbed off? we just seem to inject cash that is being spent on the US! they cant even be bothered to answerback, i think give it a years time or when the shiney ness of gr and i17 fades we will be back to where we are now just left with a handfull of people

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still no message from a red name when asked but they replied about an i17 beta question i think this thread is just being ignored

i do think its a way for us to go over to the us serves without them lifting a finger, but many of us have long term vets, sgs and friends they jsut dont wonna do a list merge cuz they will have to do work. oh and EU we have no x2 xp yet either but was stated that it would be 8.59am? but yeah shafted yet again today will be only day i get to play and it isnt even here!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa this looks familiar.