EU gets shafted - AGAIN!


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Quick question here.

I have an EU coh box but am able to access both the NA and EU servers on it purely by changing this

"C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\cohupdater.eu.exe"

to this

"C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.exe"

Couldnt this just be done just as easy with an NA GR box? Your account login details are obviously the same but would it matter? Just need to make 2 copies and change one of their targets to have both NA and EU servers?


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Originally Posted by EU_Damz View Post
Quick question here.

I have an EU coh box but am able to access both the NA and EU servers on it purely by changing this

"C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\cohupdater.eu.exe"

to this

"C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CohUpdater.exe"

Couldnt this just be done just as easy with an NA GR box? Your account login details are obviously the same but would it matter? Just need to make 2 copies and change one of their targets to have both NA and EU servers?
Yes, however, the account code wouldn't apply to your EU account, meaning you'd have to buy the NA box for the disks and then by the EU code to apply to your account, missing out on the bonuses (which likely won't be able to be applied to the EU account) and the free month


 

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Yes, however, the account code wouldn't apply to your EU account, meaning you'd have to buy the NA box for the disks and then by the EU code to apply to your account, missing out on the bonuses (which likely won't be able to be applied to the EU account) and the free month

But purely for the sake of having an actual up to date disk on , it'ld work? Well thats something i suppose.


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But purely for the sake of having an actual up to date disk on , it'ld work? Well thats something i suppose.
Yeah, no reason why not I guess. Something I had considered, then realised that it's pretty shite I'd have to pay twice.


 

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Well the game install should be about 4GB, and a single layer DVD should be 4.5GB, so you could burn your install folder to disc and then copy from the disc, next time you need to install the game.

Dunno if GR will pump the install higher than 4.5GB though


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Does the client on the US retail disks include French & German localisation? Or would an install from US files insist on updating for those...


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Does the client on the US retail disks include French & German localisation? Or would an install from US files insist on updating for those...
As far as I know, it doesn't but if you where to install the US client, then change the cohupdater to the EU location it would automatically update to include localised language files.


 

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we dont even get to test the new booster pack now! so unfair, i wanted to know weqather its worth purchasing.... or is it the fact the devs want us to purchase before giving us the boot!


 

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we dont even get to test the new booster pack now! so unfair, i wanted to know weqather its worth purchasing.... or is it the fact the devs want us to purchase before giving us the boot!
have we ever?


 

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we dont even get to test the new booster pack now! so unfair, i wanted to know weqather its worth purchasing.... or is it the fact the devs want us to purchase before giving us the boot!
Did you even read the reason why?

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have we ever?
Yes. Yes we have.


 

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we dont even get to test the new booster pack now! so unfair, i wanted to know weqather its worth purchasing.... or is it the fact the devs want us to purchase before giving us the boot!

Judging by the pics/quality of the buffs i think i will buy it.


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we dont even get to test the new booster pack now! so unfair, i wanted to know weqather its worth purchasing.... or is it the fact the devs want us to purchase before giving us the boot!
Given the circumstances I'm going to let this 'shafting' slide I think.


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True Truemetal.
Due to the fact that the Test servers are there to well.. to test builds and it can all be deleted overnight etc... (aka this is a gesture thingy)
and
That we did sort of get news on the secret thing that is on the eu server (a certain major beta)
I don't really thing this was a shafted experience.


Speculation follows:
When I read the reason well a few thoughts sprung up on my mind.
We are a few months from launch so i'd expect (wrongly maybe) that the family (inhouse) beta is over and that the first wave of people have gotten in.
That means mostlikely (unless new server tech... could be) every NA tester have had to update their test to go directly to the EU one.
Unless they secretly are doing things to the updater that we cannot know, but may have asked for for a very long time.


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When I read the reason well a few thoughts sprung up on my mind.
We are a few months from launch so i'd expect (wrongly maybe) that the family (inhouse) beta is over and that the first wave of people have gotten in.
That means mostlikely (unless new server tech... could be) every NA tester have had to update their test to go directly to the EU one.
Unless they secretly are doing things to the updater that we cannot know, but may have asked for for a very long time
Now im more confused than i was before!


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Well sorry Damz.
My speculation was based on a few things:
1. Supposedly the GR Beta is on EU server (sorta confirmed)
2. Supposed that the GR Beta is past the alpha stage (in-house) and that the few first waves have come out.
3. Suppose that the first wave are mostly players on the NA servers.

If that would be the case then the NA servers must either have changed their updater into pointing to the Eu test server, rather then their normal NA test server.
Or
The Devs (War Witch hinted something, wish I knew what) could have changed or made an updater that points to the NA and EU Test server (to save the testers from the need to reinstall, reverify etc...

So my speculation continues really, IF the Devs have done the last thing well what will stop them from making the one thing the EU have wished for (server list merge)?
Ofc the Devs might have gone for the easy/boring bit and just made the testers Test updater point to the EU instead of the NA test server.

Did this clear up my thoughts a little?


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Or, simply put;

NA has two test servers, one specifically for Beta, one for regular test

EU is stuck with one server, despite the fact there are two grayed out servers sat there doing nothing, and therefore anyone who's not in Beta simply cannot access Test. At all.

Which I find much more likely, and possessing a greater percentage of fail


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Meh, I would have liked to see some of the new things from the mutation booster but as it's the test server(which I consider an extra) I'm not that bugged that we can't access it for now.

Of course, the message when trying to access the thing could have been somewhat clearer.


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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
Or, simply put;

NA has two test servers, one specifically for Beta, one for regular test

EU is stuck with one server, despite the fact there are two grayed out servers sat there doing nothing, and therefore anyone who's not in Beta simply cannot access Test. At all.

Which I find much more likely, and possessing a greater percentage of fail
I'd whip out one of those obnoxious screenfilling facepalm pics you troll with, but I'm at work and don't have any handy.

It's a test server made for testing things. That's what they're doing, testing stuff. You're way overreacting.


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Meh, I would have liked to see some of the new things from the mutation booster but as it's the test server(which I consider an extra) I'm not that bugged that we can't access it for now.

Of course, the message when trying to access the thing could have been somewhat clearer.
If you want to go through the trouble you can always set up and American trial account and a version of the American test server.


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If you want to go through the trouble you can always set up and American trial account and a version of the American test server.
Again? I believe I did that when they only had a "Open" beta for power customization on the U.S. test.

I already have too much accounts under my master account(also because some twit hacked my account and made a trial one...and I can't freaking delete it) so no thank you.


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I'd whip out one of those obnoxious screenfilling facepalm pics you troll with, but I'm at work and don't have any handy.

It's a test server made for testing things. That's what they're doing, testing stuff. You're way overreacting.
I'd reply fully, but if your going to lambast anything I say as trolling, then Im going to save my fingers the effort.


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I'd reply fully, but if your going to lambast anything I say as trolling, then Im going to save my fingers the effort.
Never said all you did was trolling. I took a jab at your obnoxious habbit to toss that annoying picture in anyone's face who says something you don't agree with. I found that you're ranty overreaction presented a nice opportunity to return the favor, but alas.


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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
Or, simply put;

NA has two test servers, one specifically for Beta, one for regular test

EU is stuck with one server, despite the fact there are two grayed out servers sat there doing nothing, and therefore anyone who's not in Beta simply cannot access Test. At all.

Which I find much more likely, and possessing a greater percentage of fail
Exactly as TA describes it.

EDIT - OK, for the person who gave me the negative rep and hadn't the courage to leave a name, let me elaborate on my answer.

I know what TA says to be true because:

- the EU have 3 test server connections listed to choose from; of these, 2 are greyed out;
- having bought a NA account, I know the NA have 2 test servers;
- on said NA account I transferred a toon from Live to Test and was asked to which server I wanted the copy made to: Public test server or GR test server;
- seeing this implemented NA side, where there are 2 test servers, it seems a contrived excuse to say the same thing cannot be applied to EU when we have 2 test servers greyed out and sitting there idly.

So, either sand is being thrown in our eyes or the 2 extra test servers available to EU aren't there any more and should be removed from the list. Either way, once again it appears there isn't enough will on the part of whomever decides these things for equal treatment between both customer bases.

Finally and as a counter to the comment left as negative rep: yes.


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Originally Posted by TrueMetal View Post
Never said all you did was trolling. I took a jab at your obnoxious habbit to toss that annoying picture in anyone's face who says something you don't agree with. I found that you're ranty overreaction presented a nice opportunity to return the favor, but alas.
Trust me, I refrain from using my facepalm links unless someone says something that really defies all logic, reasoning and simple common sense. If I did it to everyone who bugged me on the interwebs, I wouldn't be able to sleep I'd be so busy

I just dislike the fact that on the one hand we have Rednames stating how much they love the EU and are trying there hardest for it, bless its little cotton socks, and the next minute we get the sticky end of the stick for the umpteenth time.
I do have a suspicion that, yet again, Marketting is being so stingily over-protective of ANY information that it extends to the entire EU side, but even so, jaded I have become quite a lot of, hmm?


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