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Originally Posted by Dr_HR
Open your mind..your thinking.,,materials..to a lot of people including me its not about the materials as such
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Originally Posted by Bin Man
It is a box. It is nothing but materials.
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@Bin Man
If you read through the thread you will find that yes, the thread started out with the concept of the box. However as DR said, it is more about the box. Had you read the entire thread or atleast post 596 (on page 30) you would have seen more of the entire picture...
@Noble Fox. Then the solution is simple. Change the server lists so that both NA and EU updater points to the same list. One list of 15 servers. If GR would do this then there would be no need for an extra set of boxes (to the EU). Unfortunatly it seems the company will still insist on dividing the playerbase into two communities 
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Post #596 by Wondering Fury really sums up the thread!
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Originally Posted by Dr_HR
I pitty you and your one tracked mind.
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Originally Posted by Dr_HR
I pitty you and your one tracked mind.
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I did ask this question several times to different Devs on Test last night.
Sadly the question was either ignored or I got "ask marketing" type replies.
Not wholly unexpected but disappointing never the less.
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Originally Posted by NobleFox
I'm sure if you send an email to NCSoft asking nicely if you can purchase a box and have it shipped overseas they will be happy to comply. It's a LOT better then demanding they post a huge loss or "lose your business". Your $15 a month is not going to pay for shipping and distribution of a product that has (if I understood what I read in a trade mag about a year ago about CoH in Europe), historically speaking, has _never_ made a profit in your market?
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Originally Posted by NobleFox
Are you seriously suggesting that they knowingly take a loss on distribution to markets that just aren't interested so a few dozen folks can have boxes?
I mean I love White Castle Hamburgers, but every time they try to open one in Montana, it fails within 3 months so they've stopped trying, and now we can only get the frozen storebought version of the burgers. Does this mean I am in the right suggesting that they keep a branch open here anyway despite the horrendous losses each time, or should I be happy that I can at LEAST get the frozen version still? I'm sure if you send an email to NCSoft asking nicely if you can purchase a box and have it shipped overseas they will be happy to comply. It's a LOT better then demanding they post a huge loss or "lose your business". Your $15 a month is not going to pay for shipping and distribution of a product that has (if I understood what I read in a trade mag about a year ago about CoH in Europe), historically speaking, has _never_ made a profit in your market? You say CoH is taking a big dump on Europeans? Fine. Let's bear in mind that Europeans actually dumped on them first by making every attempt to distribute CoX an utter failure. |
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Originally Posted by Diggis
...I need to install it on a new machine, I'd hate to think of the size of that download...
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Originally Posted by Bindweed
I don't think you need to download it all over again (it's been a few months since I migrated to a newer PC, so if I'm wrong there are smarter people here to say so), iirc all you need to do is copy your COH folder. If you have a portable hdd, a cd/dvd writer, or a memory stick with enough capacity, its a simple drag and drop. When you run the updater on your new machine, the game will pick up as normal.
So, if I'm right and that is the case, one way to get around not having the up-to-date game on disk is to periodically back up your game folder onto dvd or something - maybe after there's been a big download,or whenever's suitable. |
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Originally Posted by Bindweed
I don't think you need to download it all over again (it's been a few months since I migrated to a newer PC, so if I'm wrong there are smarter people here to say so), iirc all you need to do is copy your COH folder. If you have a portable hdd, a cd/dvd writer, or a memory stick with enough capacity, its a simple drag and drop. When you run the updater on your new machine, the game will pick up as normal.
So, if I'm right and that is the case, one way to get around not having the up-to-date game on disk is to periodically back up your game folder onto dvd or something - maybe after there's been a big download,or whenever's suitable. |
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Still no idea how to get Test working on Windows 7 / Vista though, keep getting a Permissions error regardless of the foldername.
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Originally Posted by Bull Throttle
Ohh.. I had a permissions problem getting the NA Test set up on Vista last week...I can't quite remember how I got around it off-hand*, but I'll take a look tonight and see if I can work out what I did.
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Another side-affect that was always going to exponentially go crazy with updates and GR. I've made this argument countlessly, I really dislike having to save it, especially when you have to update the CD, ignoring external hard-drives, frequently or make another CD....
This isn't really a complaint I can make in foresight of the other problems but It'd be nice to have a brand new copy. It reminds me of installing Guild Wars with the CD I got the first week it came out, and updating it.... God I abhored that moment of updating, with all 3 campaigns.
Fury
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Too late
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Tried that myself earlier on in the week. Copied to c:\users\[username]\Games\CoHTest\
* ran it and pointed the installer at the same folder but got the Permission error. Even tried "Run as Administrator" but no cigar. Has me a bit stumped. My actual CoH client is running happily in c:\users\[username]\Games\CoH\ though. |
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Too late
Tried that myself earlier on in the week. Copied to c:\users\[username]\Games\CoHTest\ * ran it and pointed the installer at the same folder but got the Permission error. Even tried "Run as Administrator" but no cigar. Has me a bit stumped. My actual CoH client is running happily in c:\users\[username]\Games\CoH\ though. |
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Originally Posted by Bindweed
That's odd. I have thatvery same structure in Windows 7 and it works a treat. I did have some trouble, iirc, but eventually I think I went back to Bridger's very first "How to..." guide for setting up the Test server and somehow got it working. Maybe you're missing something very, very small...
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Originally Posted by Bull Throttle
C:\CoHTest, avoiding as much of what Windows thinks of as its property as possible.
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Originally Posted by Bull Throttle
...just confirming for you Carni - that is where I stuck it after 30 minutes of trying to convince Windows that I do in fact have permission to use my own sodding machine...and giving up.
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EU Servers Down for the count as of midday, no forum announcement and just a windows error popup message along the line of:
You have been forcibly kicked from the game as the servers' down.
Typical EU service...
Check the weekly maintenance schedule, which is every Thursday, starting 12 UK time for a couple of hours.
; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise 
; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.* hmmm we need a new coh release over here, or a disk we can purchase with an updated installation just got new computer and its been 2 days of downloading and still not done! not my fault internet in this crappy area is slowwwwwwwwww
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Originally Posted by fatalnova
hmmm we need a new coh release over here, or a disk we can purchase with an updated installation just got new computer and its been 2 days of downloading and still not done! not my fault internet in this crappy area is slowwwwwwwwww
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US servers very busy
US servers again