EU gets shafted - AGAIN!


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and now the EU servers hardly seems fair does it both taken at peak times well all pay the same ammount yet we are far worse off than the US servers they took all our players with the 14 day free trial disks released on magazines that installed the US client so unfair we need a population again!


 

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6:30pm isn't peak time on the EU.


 

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and now the EU servers hardly seems fair does it both taken at peak times well all pay the same ammount yet we are far worse off than the US servers they took all our players with the 14 day free trial disks released on magazines that installed the US client so unfair we need a population again!
Three in the morning Euro time, and there are still a few people in Atlas Park:



EDIT: That was from yesterday too, so it's on a weekday, not even a weekend.


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There hardly bursting at the seams are they though..

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Originally Posted by Bindweed View Post
I don't think you need to download it all over again (it's been a few months since I migrated to a newer PC, so if I'm wrong there are smarter people here to say so), iirc all you need to do is copy your COH folder. If you have a portable hdd, a cd/dvd writer, or a memory stick with enough capacity, its a simple drag and drop. When you run the updater on your new machine, the game will pick up as normal.

So, if I'm right and that is the case, one way to get around not having the up-to-date game on disk is to periodically back up your game folder onto dvd or something - maybe after there's been a big download,or whenever's suitable.

Unfortunatly doing this seems to have had an unexpected side effect... at least I assume it's cos of this, not 100% sure. My laptop was bought in NZ so has the standard US keyboard. My new PC was bought here, with a UK keyboard and the buttons are messed up.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=220799

When I type it's fine, but my binds are stuffed


 

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Unfortunatly doing this seems to have had an unexpected side effect... at least I assume it's cos of this, not 100% sure. My laptop was bought in NZ so has the standard US keyboard. My new PC was bought here, with a UK keyboard and the buttons are messed up.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=220799

When I type it's fine, but my binds are stuffed

I'm guessing your binds would be stuffed unless you were using a standard US keyboard - no matter what you chose. That said, it's not difficult to get a US keyboard... and you can change your settings easily enough in Windows.



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I'm guessing your binds would be stuffed unless you were using a standard US keyboard - no matter what you chose. That said, it's not difficult to get a US keyboard... and you can change your settings easily enough in Windows.

Nah, it's not quite that simple.

Specifically when trying to enter [ as a keybind I get nothing
When trying to enter ] in I get [ and # gives me ]
\ also doesn't work and I didn't find a key that will give me it or #

All these keys work fine in the chat and in windows, it's only with reference to binds. I think somethink in the install sets is as US cos thats what my laptop was and when I copy the files over that comes too.


 

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Nah, it's not quite that simple.

Specifically when trying to enter [ as a keybind I get nothing
When trying to enter ] in I get [ and # gives me ]
\ also doesn't work and I didn't find a key that will give me it or #

All these keys work fine in the chat and in windows, it's only with reference to binds. I think somethink in the install sets is as US cos thats what my laptop was and when I copy the files over that comes too.

have you tried writing it in notepad and C&P? I often do that simply because I can't ever remember the binds themselves



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I wish the EU community would just stop playing, all of us.
Then they'd notice.
There would be a stateside transfer within a week.
It isnt fair we pay the same as the americans yet have less slots, less fellow players and always get blunt side of the stick.
But because the EU side is still profitable (it must be hence it is still up) they don't care.


 

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If we all stopped playing, and paying our subs. Then they would simple close the EU servers and forget about the EU side.


 

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If we all stopped playing, and paying our subs. Then they would simple close the EU servers and forget about the EU side.

No.
Look at what they did with City of Hero (the short lived korean release of the game).
The servers wheren't profitable enough and they gave all the remaining players after a certain date a server transfer to america, a one year gametime pass and they could keep their characters.


 

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always get blunt side of the stick.
Thank carrots for that! I prefer bashing to lethal damage, it heals faster.


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Yes, that was because they weren't profitable. The EU servers are profitable. So if we just stopped playing they would notice, but that profit is used to run the EU side.
So to do anything for us, it would cost them time and money that should be used to improve the game, not just on one server. Also, the GMs have said many times that a EU - NA server transfer would never happen again. So the whole thing would be a wast of out time.
The GMs have said a lot of things would "never happen" when it comes to the EU side. History shows that the Mod Team have a patchy record in predicting what will happen when it comes to changes with regards to the EU side.



In fact most of those self-same GMs probably ended up downsized.


 

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The GMs have said a lot of things would "never happen" when it comes to the EU side. History shows that the Mod Team have a patchy record in predicting what will happen when it comes to changes with regards to the EU side.



In fact most of those self-same GMs probably ended up downsized.
There will never be a forum merge - check
US competitions will never be open to EU players due to territory rules and regulations - check

Never is a long time in mmos, they may not intend to but they've shown they're not beyond changing their minds and sorting out the obsticles that made it 'impossible' to do it. I'm pretty sure power customisation fell into the never category at some point as well.


 

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There will never be a forum merge - check
To be fair they always said there was no plans to do so at the moment in time in regards to a forum merge.


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To be fair they always said there was no plans to do so at the moment in time in regards to a forum merge.
True, I forgot how the wording went. Of course depending on which side of the fence people stood regarding the issue it was taken in much more definite terms.

Saying that, though I'll not swear to it, wasn't the same 'we have no plans to do so at the moment' trotted out regarding merging the server lists?


 

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True, I forgot how the wording went. Of course depending on which side of the fence people stood regarding the issue it was taken in much more definite terms.

Saying that, though I'll not swear to it, wasn't the same 'we have no plans to do so at the moment' trotted out regarding merging the server lists?

Well yes and no i think in that regards. Think that if it was as easy as just switching a switch, then they'ld do it instantly and stop this feeling we all tend to have.

It cant be nice for them to constantly hear us complain to them nonstop [think we will nonstop until the server lists merge and all thats left to complain about is timezone difference!] and therefore i do believe a merge WILL happen one day. However i also believe it wont be anytime soon, think they would want to see how GR makes our servers first before attempting to do a merger of sorts.


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However i also believe it wont be anytime soon, think they would want to see how GR makes our servers first before attempting to do a merger of sorts.
You may be right there.

I'm not pre-ordering GR on either side; I want to see what it does for the EU population before I jump.


 

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You may be right there.

I'm not pre-ordering GR on either side; I want to see what it does for the EU population before I jump.

We've seen an increase in players since I17 went live. I'm hoping GR will continue that trend. The real question is this: How high will it be and what will NCSoft do to make the EU paying customers feel their £/e are being appreciated?



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Following the post I made on the thread about the newly announced pre-order bonuses for GR I thought I would say here how annoyed I am that developer time has been put into content that the EU servers won't have any access to.

I had made my peace with not getting boxset but I feel this has now made a definite gap between NA and EU servers in terms of possible available content.


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Give it time and this too shall pass... you'll make peace with it too because there's not a damn thing you can do about it to change it.


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no doubt we will get it in a u gotta pay extra for this item booster again! When the whole of NA get to purchase it with there boxed sets with there extra goodies! im realli considering trying another MMO one where there isnt such a devide. plus if i need to reformat my comp again i have to download 6 years worth of patches etc because we cant even have new copies of the game distributed to us dev you suck big time and black pebble you are **** you have contributed next to nothing and probabily getting paid for the ideas you have been getting from these forums sort it out or u will see a lot of people jump ship


 

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no doubt we will get it in a u gotta pay extra for this item booster again! When the whole of NA get to purchase it with there boxed sets with there extra goodies! im realli considering trying another MMO one where there isnt such a devide. plus if i need to reformat my comp again i have to download 6 years worth of patches etc because we cant even have new copies of the game distributed to us dev you suck big time and black pebble you are **** you have contributed next to nothing and probabily getting paid for the ideas you have been getting from these forums sort it out or u will see a lot of people jump ship
I tried moving to another mmo (first to lotro which I still play occasionaly, and then to EQ2 which I left pretty fast).
City of Heroes is unique and it is a shame that it is consistently being ruined for the European players.
Why are the Americans always first?
I know their player base is bigger and it is an American game, but we pay the same monthly fee and get less player slots and now with the pre order bonus items we even get less content.
I don't care that a developer makes a thread "notifying" us about our concern being recognized. We can't do anything with that.
Im really looking forward to War Witch's method of increasing EU side players but frankly I don't expect that anytime soon.
With the money NCSOFT makes, and they make enough, it shouldnt be hard to design one global server for the game.


 

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Give it time and this too shall pass... you'll make peace with it too because there's not a damn thing you can do about it to change it.
Well, you could build a giant orbital carrot-cannon, and threaten the world with it until your demands are met


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Well, you could build a giant orbital carrot-cannon, and threaten the world with it until your demands are met
For someone who claims to be a hero you have much knowledge of evil world conquering devices and strategies. Hmmm...suspicious....


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