The most overused and underused characters in CoX lore
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Posted on: 2010-02-16 21:09 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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That one's easy - for game reasons, Arachnos cells are as secure as the Zig |
Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
2. Blue Steel - the Paragon answer to Chuck Norris. This deus ex machina appears whenever they have break a hero out of an Arachnos holding cell, which seems to happen with incredible frequency.
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underused- luddites, cap au diable gremlins, wailers, gold brickers
I have to agree when it comes to the luddites and goldbrickers, they both have so much potential for involving storylines.
Also I'd like see some story arc development given to BAB, Swan, and especially Valkyrie, aside from the spear she has a boring costume, give her something unique and iconic.
Also because of their heavy game presence, Id like to see the Hellions and Skulls be given Arch-villains and task forces that truly explore why the gangs are dangerous.
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And about 5 others that change constantly...
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Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
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Most Underused 3. W.I.S.D.O.M. - there's actually 4 heroes in W.I.S.D.O.M. and only Foreshadow and Mirror Spirit have made it to the light of day. Rose Star and Spark Blade, as interesting as they seem, have never been seen outside of the video promoting City of Hero for the Korean market. |
However, I will admit there is some justification for Sparkblade, in theory, all of his animations would need to be unique, one-handed katana fighting with a pistol out, and his powers would have to be uniquely designed and coded.
But what about Rose Star, who has shown no unique powers like Foreshadow, she's nowhere to be found in game with powers that seem to be based off existing sets, so why?
Also, Flower Knight, we see her in the Outbreak tutorial and then later in Ouroboros, distressingly, both hero and villain versions.
I, for one, would like to see her join the ranks of WISDOM and appear in some other missions.
By the way, while we're at it, what would be some example of characters used just enough to be interesting but not so much they get annoying?
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Absolutely agree with the OP. I groan when I hear the top 4 mentioned and I've only ever interacted with 2 of the less used characters.
Now I need to go and find Becky, she sounds like a lot of fun! 
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Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
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Overused:
* Longbow - particularly on redside. They seem to have a never ending supply of grunts for you slaughter!
Underused:
* Coralax - You see them around a bit more than previously, but outside Mako they don't seem to have much going for them
* Igneous - Bar a handful of missions in the Hollows you don't see them again.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
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Spetsnaz Commandos are very underused, considering how hardcore they are
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I agree. When you click on her in Outbreak for more info, she actually has a back story. Why not flesh her out a bit? Her heroic career should parallel pretty much every hero in the game since she starts out at the same time. Perhaps make her a contact/ally like Doc Delilah in Faultline.
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
Also, Flower Knight, we see her in the Outbreak tutorial and then later in Ouroboros, distressingly, both hero and villain versions.
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Originally Posted by Nova Knight
I agree. When you click on her in Outbreak for more info, she actually has a back story. Why not flesh her out a bit? Her heroic career should parallel pretty much every hero in the game since she starts out at the same time. Perhaps make her a contact/ally like Doc Delilah in Faultline.
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-- I have an addition to Flower Knight's backstory myself.In my version, Flower Knight manages to complete the Outbreak mission by herself and goes into Paragon City and has a heroic career all her own. She reaches Level 50, and makes some huge mistake that results in unmitigated disaster for the entire world. She's then approached by Mender Silos who tells her that she was never meant to have all the adventures that she had and have the role that she did in Paragon City, so she becomes an agent of Ouroboros trying to find the right hero who can prevent the disaster she failed to prevent ...
Which explains why she's constantly in Outbreak, and we only otherwise see her in Ouroboros.
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Needs moar Doctor Creed.
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Underused -
The tunnels: This hazard zone (http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/The_Tunnels_of_the_Trolls) inside a hazard zone in the Hollows is never used. I didn't even know about it till recently.
Boomtown: A whole zone with not much going for it
Dark Astoria: The same as Boomtown
The Safeguard/Mayhem Heroes/Villains: Those named Heroes/Villains you encounter on the bank missions seem like they could be fleshed out a bit, maybe having story arcs involving them.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
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Penelope Yin is also a "girl", though her age is never really specified. She's younger than "adult" or "woman", but old enough to hold CWK's attention, so I'd put her in the same age range as Penny.|
Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
2. Penny Preston - The only verified teenager in CoH lore, Penny is a gifted mutant who can unlock the potential of other mutants. What an awesome background that's never been explored or used. Meanwhile one of her counterparts in Brickstown, Serafina (and IMO, a far less interesting counterpart), shows up much more frequently.
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Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
4. The Center - pretty unknown for a guy who established himself virtually overnight as the leader of one of the most powerful villain groups in both Paragon and the Rogue Isles. Frankly, I think he's boring, but that's probably because he seems more like a placeholder than the villain who supposedly commands the respect (and fear) of archvillains like Requiem, Nosferatu and Vandal. Heck, he's SUPPOSED to their boss, and yet his weakling appearance makes him the least intimidating of that bunch. Either give him some teeth or let one of the others take over.
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He's over 90 years old, and though he's a mutant, he has no combat mutations. What he does have is an extremely devious mind, 70 years of experience, and his own army with numerous meta-human assets. He's grown conservative with age, but even more cunning. ... The normal Council troops are bad. Fanatically loyal. We think that might be tied into the Center's mutation, actually. |
It seems that the Center's super power is "getting people to follow your command", or perhaps more succinctly, "Super Charisma".
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I read some place that Penelope Yin is actually a lot older than most people think she is. I can't find the source (Manticore's lore Q & A maybe?) but I believe she's supposed to be college-aged as opposed to being a high school aged teenager. Penny Preston is quite a bit younger than that. Her description says she's a teenager, but her appearance leads you to believe that she's on the younger end of that scale: closer to 11 than 19. But then again, she is a mutant so you never know.|
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Penelope Yin is also a "girl", though her age is never really specified. She's younger than "adult" or "woman", but old enough to hold CWK's attention, so I'd put her in the same age range as Penny.
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We have one description of the Center, from Viridian: It seems that the Center's super power is "getting people to follow your command", or perhaps more succinctly, "Super Charisma". |
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I'd love to see more of the Center. As it stands, he only even shows up in two missions, both in Viridian's The Conference of Evil story arc (in the last two missions of the arc, at that).
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Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
as he is right now, he's unfinished.
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Agreed. Flower Knight and her subsequent appearance in Ouroboros almost demand a good backstory. I think it's a shame they didn't reuse her for the Introduction ot Ouro story arc.|
Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
Also, Flower Knight, we see her in the Outbreak tutorial and then later in Ouroboros, distressingly, both hero and villain versions.
I, for one, would like to see her join the ranks of WISDOM and appear in some other missions. |
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I'd like to see more NPC heroes and villains that just show up here and there. I really like how you keep bumping into Fusionette and Faultline as you level up on a hero. It makes the world feel a bit more populated--it's nice to see some heroes other than the trainer/TF types and PCs.
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Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
Agreed. Flower Knight and her subsequent appearance in Ouroboros almost demand a good backstory. I think it's a shame they didn't reuse her for the Introduction ot Ouro story arc.
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Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
We need more Marshall Brass. He's too cool.
I like Nemesis ... He's the Archvillain, all the other wannabe's are just toys to him, as shown in Viridian's arc.
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Originally Posted by TrueMetal
I like Nemesis ... He's the Archvillain, all the other wannabe's are just toys to him, as shown in Viridian's arc.
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
We need more Marshall Brass. He's too cool.
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I'd also like to see Horus pop up, perhaps in an Ouroboros arc of some description (I'd love to see War Witch and Apex show up in it as well). Also, more Bile please and perhaps some more unique Freakshow...maybe pump up Ohmtown into an EB and give him a cool new look?
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Well there's a simple solution to that. Introduce a Swashbuckling Assault set at the same time |
Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
However, I will admit there is some justification for Sparkblade, in theory, all of his animations would need to be unique, one-handed katana fighting with a pistol out, and his powers would have to be uniquely designed and coded.
But what about Rose Star, who has shown no unique powers like Foreshadow, she's nowhere to be found in game with powers that seem to be based off existing sets, so why? |
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Holy Ned! I've never even heard of that! Then again I play redside mostly, but still... HOLY NED!
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Originally Posted by Tired Angel
The tunnels: This hazard zone (http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/The_Tunnels_of_the_Trolls) inside a hazard zone in the Hollows is never used. I didn't even know about it till recently.
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The Tunnels of the Trolls is used for one thing, and one thing only: The Cavern of Transcendence Trial (unlocked by completing Talshak the Mystic's arc in The Hollows, similar to how you gain access to the Katie Hannon TF)
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Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5
Holy Ned! I've never even heard of that! Then again I play redside mostly, but still... HOLY NED!
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Most Overused
1. Nemesis - So overused, he's almost cliche. A collective groan comes out from many veteran players when something is revealed to be yet another Nemesis Plot. Over-reliance on such a trope has strained my credulity to a near breaking point.
2. Blue Steel - the Paragon answer to Chuck Norris. This deus ex machina appears whenever they have break a hero out of an Arachnos holding cell, which seems to happen with incredible frequency.
3. Azuria - Never trust her to safely keep anything. She'll remorsefully tell you that some villain group ran off with that precious trinket you spent recovering in torturous Oranbega. At least she'll take the fall even though the Magi vault is in Galaxy City.
4. Snaptooth - Toothbreaker is the badge you get for defeating him five times. There's probably more than a few players who would get the badge for defeating him five hundred times or more. In almost every holiday event, he seems to haunt your nightmares by inspiring another bout of deja vu.
Most Underused
1. Becky the Tarantula Mistress - If you've ever come across this unique Tarantula Mistress, you'll never forget her. It's really a shame she only shows up once. It's also a shame that she's never squared off against Fusionette, her only rival for ditziness.
2. Penny Preston - The only verified teenager in CoH lore, Penny is a gifted mutant who can unlock the potential of other mutants. What an awesome background that's never been explored or used. Meanwhile one of her counterparts in Brickstown, Serafina (and IMO, a far less interesting counterpart), shows up much more frequently.
3. W.I.S.D.O.M. - there's actually 4 heroes in W.I.S.D.O.M. and only Foreshadow and Mirror Spirit have made it to the light of day. Rose Star and Spark Blade, as interesting as they seem, have never been seen outside of the video promoting City of Hero for the Korean market.
4. The Center - pretty unknown for a guy who established himself virtually overnight as the leader of one of the most powerful villain groups in both Paragon and the Rogue Isles. Frankly, I think he's boring, but that's probably because he seems more like a placeholder than the villain who supposedly commands the respect (and fear) of archvillains like Requiem, Nosferatu and Vandal. Heck, he's SUPPOSED to their boss, and yet his weakling appearance makes him the least intimidating of that bunch. Either give him some teeth or let one of the others take over.
5. Apex - the last time we saw War Witch's partner, he had rerolled and was a level 15 broadsword scrapper looking for a team in Steel Canyon. He deserves better.