The most overused and underused characters in CoX lore


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I want to address this.

Azuria sends the artifacts you deliver to her to the M.A.G.I. Vault in Galaxy City. There, Gregor Richardson must have been asleep at his job. Azuria is GRACIOUSLY taking the brunt of your ire by politely omitting his lack of diligence, and she suffers the reputation of being a ditz by the populace.

Nice. Real nice.
THANK YOU! I was beginning to think I was the only one that remembered that.


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Originally Posted by Mr_Grey View Post
I want to address this.

Azuria sends the artifacts you deliver to her to the M.A.G.I. Vault in Galaxy City. There, Gregor Richardson must have been asleep at his job. Azuria is GRACIOUSLY taking the brunt of your ire by politely omitting his lack of diligence, and she suffers the reputation of being a ditz by the populace.

Nice. Real nice.
Uh, that's what I said.


 

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Well, the idea is that the Skulls and Hellions ARE real villains that the PPD cannot keep up with anymore, so a hero like you, even a fledgling one, needs to step up to the task.

Of course, eventually the PPD got SWAT teams, psychics, combat armors, combat robots and even a dedicated Peacebringer squad, so that comment doesn't really ring true anymore.
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Ah, but they don't get those things until a much higher level than the Skulls and Hellions get to. It's possible that the Low level PPD, while being better than they used to be, still wouldn't survive large battles with those groups.
I certainly don't miss the blueshirt PPD-- they were constantly FLEEING IN TERROR and/or having their purses snatched back in the day. I think Wincott in the Hollows is one of the few remaining blueshirts still on duty, along with a handful (still getting beaten up by Prisoners) in Bricks.

But they built the AE building in Atlas on one of the most crime-ridden corners in the city... my fledgling first heroes arrested many bad guys there back in 2005. The crime rate had to have dropped a good bit just by cleaning up that corner to where no bad guys can walk there any longer.

Of course, even with improved PPD and Longbow roaming around Atlas Park, there is still plenty of crime to go around.


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Well, the idea is that the Skulls and Hellions ARE real villains that the PPD cannot keep up with anymore, so a hero like you, even a fledgling one, needs to step up to the task.

Of course, eventually the PPD got SWAT teams, psychics, combat armors, combat robots and even a dedicated Peacebringer squad, so that comment doesn't really ring true anymore.
I think the PPD probably use them to fight the tougher criminal gangs - so low level Heroes do still have a role to play in helping the rank and file PPD members fight the low level street thugs.


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Originally Posted by Mr_Grey View Post
I want to address this.

Azuria sends the artifacts you deliver to her to the M.A.G.I. Vault in Galaxy City. There, Gregor Richardson must have been asleep at his job. Azuria is GRACIOUSLY taking the brunt of your ire by politely omitting his lack of diligence, and she suffers the reputation of being a ditz by the populace.

Nice. Real nice.
She's still the last person in the chain of custody, so far as all the lost artifact storylines seem to record. You give the doodad to Azuria... and then maybe she gives it to Gregor, maybe she gives it right to the CoT, you don't know. What you do know is that she's the specific person you always hand the stuff over to, and she never even mentions Gregor.


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She's still the last person in the chain of custody, so far as all the lost artifact storylines seem to record. You give the doodad to Azuria... and then maybe she gives it to Gregor, maybe she gives it right to the CoT, you don't know. What you do know is that she's the specific person you always hand the stuff over to, and she never even mentions Gregor.
They're an item, and she's just protecting him.


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She's still the last person in the chain of custody, so far as all the lost artifact storylines seem to record. You give the doodad to Azuria... and then maybe she gives it to Gregor, maybe she gives it right to the CoT, you don't know. What you do know is that she's the specific person you always hand the stuff over to, and she never even mentions Gregor.
She tells you that the items were stolen from the Vault, not from her. SHE was not the last person in the chain of custody, Gregor was. She's just the one you're dealing with, and she doesn't mention him because, frankly, that's unimportant to the task at hand. The important thing is recovering the Wheel of Destruction or the Scroll of Tielekku.

The whole issue also has something to do with the fact that for a while, Galaxy City and the alternate starting contacts didn't even EXIST, but that's a different story.


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In fact, that could make for a wacky mirror universe mission - you could get captured, and have to be freed by Resistance NPCs
That would be fun actually -- the door blowing inward and there is mirrorverse Fusionette, capable and level-headed, ready to lead you to safety!


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That would be fun actually -- the door blowing inward and there is mirrorverse Fusionette, capable and level-headed, ready to lead you to safety!
Wouldn't Praetorian Fusionette be evil?

That would make her there to KILL YOU, and she'd be coldly efficient about it, too.


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That would be fun actually -- the door blowing inward and there is mirrorverse Fusionette, capable and level-headed, ready to lead you to safety!
Or she'd be one of Tyrant's followers, and be in charge of security

I'm not actually sure how an NPC rescuing a player avatar would even work anyway - I know they could spawn, then find you, like an ambush homes in on you, and then they could do whtever they had to do to release you, like the way Lady Jane has a text and emote trigger once she reaches the chest in the Midnighter arc mission.
If you were in a normal cell, the door would have to be un-targetable, and also see-through in some way - maybe some kind of energy field - so you could see that the NPC had arrived.
I'm not sure you could have a set-up the way Statesman is trapped by Tyrant - unless they made some sort of really long duration hold or something.


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She tells you that the items were stolen from the Vault, not from her. SHE was not the last person in the chain of custody, Gregor was. She's just the one you're dealing with, and she doesn't mention him because, frankly, that's unimportant to the task at hand. The important thing is recovering the Wheel of Destruction or the Scroll of Tielekku.

The whole issue also has something to do with the fact that for a while, Galaxy City and the alternate starting contacts didn't even EXIST, but that's a different story.
Gregor gets a pass because he has the whole "Bad boy of magic" thing going for him. (I'm surprised they didn't give him a trenchcoat after those became available.)

And if Azuria is Gregor's superior, then she bears the brunt for the loss of the items. Something as important as the Wheel of Time should be given the highest priority for MAGI.


And to be fair, Skipper LaGrange mentions that he got the Ghost Detecting Wand out from under Azuria's nose so it's not like it's not canon that she has a habit of losing things.

(Full disclosure: In my AE Arc, I have some text where you find a magic charm that Azuria uses to defend herself. The charm is engraved with "If Found, Please return to Azuria, Magi, Atlas Park" on it.)


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Wouldn't Praetorian Fusionette be evil?

That would make her there to KILL YOU, and she'd be coldly efficient about it, too.
Well, not all Praetorians are morally mirrored. Calvin Scott's still good! Miss Liberty was still good!


 

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Underused? I nominate Doctor Null, Positron's colleague turned arch-enemy from the CoH novel.


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Most overused? Circle of Thorns as a whole.

Most underused? The Can Man.

Come on... a homeless dude that only talks in rhyme? Surely we can make more use of him!!!!


 

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Miss Liberty was still good!
... she's certainly good to her grandfather


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... she's certainly good to her grandfather
Dominatrix's character bio is still SO wrong... so wrong...

...and yet, so very, right?


 

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Come on... a homeless dude that only talks in rhyme? Surely we can make more use of him!!!!
He's been head-hunted to design Cryptic's next MMO.


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... she's certainly good to her grandfather
No, that's Ms. Liberty - Miss Liberty was Dominatrix's mother, who she killed.


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No, that's Ms. Liberty - Miss Liberty was Dominatrix's mother, who she killed.
I need some sort of flow chart to keep up with all the relationship aspects.




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agree on Nemesis as overused. Though I kind of like it.


Underused: also agree about the Korean-based W.I.S.D.O.M. (gotta ask: why do they have an English name?)

Also underused, and I've not seen him mentioned in the thread, is Ajax, initially the only known survivor of Omega Team. Come on, that has got to beg for a follow up story of coming to terms and moving on.


 

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We need more Marshall Brass. He's too cool.
Brass is awesome!


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I'd like to see Hilary who I think was a Lieutenant of Vanessa DeVore (Carnival of Shadows).

She was in the COH comic, I think it would fun to have a mission or TF to try to take her down.


 

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3. Azuria - Never trust her to safely keep anything. She'll remorsefully tell you that some villain group ran off with that precious trinket you spent recovering in torturous Oranbega. At least she'll take the fall even though the Magi vault is in Galaxy City.
And this reached its peak in the Envoy of Shadow arc.

Whose bright idea was it for the MAGI folk to store Akarist in one of their safehouses? Had he known that the safehouse was the vault, he probably would have politely declined their protection.

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1. Becky the Tarantula Mistress - If you've ever come across this unique Tarantula Mistress, you'll never forget her. It's really a shame she only shows up once. It's also a shame that she's never squared off against Fusionette, her only rival for ditziness.
Yes, more Becky please. She was a total blast to fight alongside.


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4. The Center - pretty unknown for a guy who established himself virtually overnight as the leader of one of the most powerful villain groups in both Paragon and the Rogue Isles. Frankly, I think he's boring, but that's probably because he seems more like a placeholder than the villain who supposedly commands the respect (and fear) of archvillains like Requiem, Nosferatu and Vandal. Heck, he's SUPPOSED to their boss, and yet his weakling appearance makes him the least intimidating of that bunch. Either give him some teeth or let one of the others take over.
How about Col. Duray? Here we have the founder of one of the coolest tech-oriented villain groups, and as far as I know, no heroes ever get to bring him to justice. Instead, we get "Mr. I Love Me More than I Love Delilah" there in Faultline.

And I second, third, and fourth the request for more Marshall Brass. He is one of my favorite low level contacts in the Rogue Isles. How about more Willy Wheeler too? I could just see him recovering after his initial downfall, and becoming a useful amicable ally and higher level contact. After all, he is simply making his way, the only way he knows how. But that's just a little bit more than the Spiders allow.


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The CoT apparently have revolving doors on all of their mystical fortresses.
How better to trap unsuspecting schmucks into losing their bodies to the Circle? Let them get their greedy paws on their ancient relics to draw them into their nightmare world.

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Yes, I would also like to know who Romulus' master is.
Nemesis perhaps?

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Other than the OP, I’m actually surprised that nobody else has mentioned how Snaptooth is used in EVERY holiday event.
You are 2/3 right there. He is used in only 2 of the 3 holiday events. He appears nowhere during Halloween.

And one I would like to see more of is the Clockwork King. He is one of my favorite bad guys. How can one not like the steampunk look? In fact, the looks of two of my villains were Clockwork inspired...



First was Savage Simon, my SS/WP Brute:



He is an inventor and mad scientist (the latter only when he is off his medications though) who is fascinated with the Clockwork, and when he designed his battle armor, that was his inspiration. Unfortunately, during the Aeon Conspiracy caper, the Clockwork that were holding Aeon's workers hostage saw right through his disguise.


And then there is Rad-Bit, my Robots Mastermind...



Simon built him out of old Clockwork parts stored in the Zig's basement. Only thing missing was a proper Clockwork Winder. Seems the guards kept taking those to sell off at Wentworth's. Perhaps someday, Rad will be able to get a proper key on his back.


 

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I would love to see the Weaver still alive, even if we only got to see him in one of the hospitals looking like he was being kept alive by machines or that he has been in a medical coma since Recluse's rise to power.


 

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I'm not sure about red side, but blue side, Stateman is actually very underused.

EDIT: When I think about it too, almost all the signature Heroes have a very low profile on the good side - like BAB is almost non-existant.


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