More stupid Drive-By Buffers!

This is why I think the most peaceful way for the devs to resolve this would be to give people the ability to choose to accept/block buffs. Then the people that don't want buffs can set their toggles and go on their merry and the good samaritans can play the way they like. Everyone's happy. There'll be no more nerdraging on the forums about "I hate SB's" or "Suck it up Princess". Every time the devs have given us the ability to block something in game the number of complaints drop to almost zero.

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Oh the sweet irony. In one breath they argue that the random acts of kindness are because they care and want to help their fellow players, then turn around and in the next breath they declare, "deal with it" because they don't care about you.

I can always use more enemies. let me know what server youre on and Ill hit you up with some speed boost slotted with Zephyrs for extra running goodness!

The problem is they dont have a fling poo power so after my snowballs run out from the winter event its all I have left to throw.

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God Bless the Taxibots.

Back in the day in the Hollows, it was very tough. (And hey, Sonny, we had debt at level FIVE back then! Get off my lawn!) The Taxibots saved a lot of bacon.

I used to take my Ice/FF back to the Hollows and bubble the runners (heading to the far mountains past the Annual +7 Death Mage Convention) and putting ice slicks under the street mobs pounding on the lvl 5 rookies. I was inspired by the Taxibots.

Not as important in the Hollows today, but the Taxibots provided a vital service back then. They are what being a hero is all about.

At what point did I say they were random acts of kindness? Its people thinking they're "helping", but its still, end of the day relatively trivial in the grand scheme. Whether you like it or not whats the worse case scenario. Losing a few minutes waiting for it to go away? A little bit of debt?

Its a game, its not something to get that worked up over is my point. Deal with it, don't whine about things you can't change, you are after all sharing the game with several hundred or more people at any given time depending on the server.

If you need to count to 10 to stop your sudden influx rage simply because someone did it, or get worked up enough you have to have a tirade on a forum about it, you're taking the game as a whole WAY to seriously.

But lets reverse it, lets say its not kindness. Lets say its someone who jumped in and killed the guy you were working on stealing XP and Inf? Ok sure, that sucks, but no point getting worked up over it. No point raging about it or really even posting here. You won't change how some people are.

Instead ignore them and move on. People can only ruin your "fun" if you let them.

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Originally Posted by PapaSlade Rangle's right....this is fun.

See, here's the thing -

Those of us who will toss off a buff to be nice will also tend to respect a "Please don't do that, I'm (trying to see what I can do/insert reason here,)" make a note and go on. I even stated earlier, I'll one star the person - not out of malice (it doesn't do jack to them, after all,) but if I see that, it's an instant "check the notes" for me.

The end result? Four minutes or less of "forced" (and I use that word VERY loosely and with no slight touch of sarcasm) gameplay for the recipient, a moment of me adding a note, and we go on our way without them getting buffed again.

The flip side, the "you're forcing me to play your way/you're playing the game for me" argument? They're saying - even as they slip in a "yeah, sure, you're trying to be nice" - that everyone who dares do that *to be nice,* or because it's what their character would do, is ruining the game for them and should absolutely stop or, in the case of a character nearly at defeat, take the time to type/remember a bind/hope the recipient decides to type instead of fight instead of making that split second decision to help.

Who's trying to force a playstyle on who? Who's being told they're *wrong* and should completely stop playing or alter their playstyle, binding (which doesn't maintain between accounts, etc.) and the like? Hell, look at the title - "More stupid drive by buffers" - I'm surprised there hasn't been MORE antagonism in this thread, quite frankly.

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It would be cool, but the problem comes from powers like [No Phase] and [Dampening Field] and all the PvP nerf powers that effect you while in PvP zones, those are there to hinder you on purpose, they wouldn't want to allow you to disable them to get back where you want to be.

Thank you for bringing that up because I tend to block the PvP zones out of my mind.

Well, from my point of view, you seem to be a bit of a jerk.
I wouldn't say this, but you seem to think it is okay to call other people "terribly rude and a touch arrogant".

If I run into one of your characters and buff or heal them to try to help them, it will be a complete accident because I didn't realize it was one YOUR CHARACTERS.

By-and-large, players in this game like to help and to be helped.
You seem to be one of the exceptions to the rule.
It is a super-hero game with team-centric mechanics after-all. There appear to be plenty of games where this is not the case; you may be from one of them.
You have been unfortunate enough to find a game to play with a friendly and helpful community.

The way to avoid being buffed by other characters is to be in a mission. Other players don't have access to buffing your character while they are in a mission. So keeping inside of missions a much as possible will help eliminate others helping you.
Oh, sorry, I was trying to help you...and you didn't specifically say that you wanted any replies to your posts...
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No. By posting in the forums - much like by running around in the City - you open yourself/your characters up to being helped by/exposed to other players and interaction with them.

So? There was no question in your original post. Doesn't belong here. There's been no change in the "no ranting" rule that I know of. Doesn't belong in these forums.

It's a bummer that you died, but know what? You were level 4. No debt. You lost some time. You have spent far more time typing out your misplaced rage here than you lost in the first place. Balance the equation and get back to playing.

Some people, you couldn't even hang 'em with a new rope, my Grandma used to say. Ironically, your post comes across as terribly rude and a touch arrogant.

This pretty much sums up my feelings. I don't mind not buffing someone after they've asked me not to, but expecting other people to just "know" not to buff you, and yelling at them if they do, is just unreasonable. It's a team-oriented game where you play with other players. If you don't like that, there are plenty of other places you can be, in-game and out, where you don't have to deal with getting 4 minutes of buff sometimes to interfere with your 5 hours of playtime.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Actually, if you did it too many times I just wouldn't team with you. If you are that prone to letting your fingers go faster than your brain, you definitely have a play style that doesn't match mine.

1) I don't crash that often these days as I do have a better computer and the fact that the developers do try to fix crash bugs faster than other bugs.

2) ANY crashing of the game should be treated with a #1 priority. It usually means sloppy code in my experience.

3) I've been on the side of asking for a anti-buff method for years, and I don't see that ending any time soon.

4) My complaint with speed boost these days have to deal with the run speed component (it has gotten me killed too many times). I made a suggestion last summer that people should be given an optional "speed slider" to have the ability to cap their own speed to what they are comfortable with, along with the ability to enable/disable that cap.

I would think that if you had read this entire thread, you would have realized that this whole thread is about people who wish to decline buffs. It doesn't matter if the buff is causing a crash or not -- the buff is unwanted, therefore the player should have the right to refuse the buff.

Can I have your global name so that I can add a player note to never team with you?

If you want to pay for a new computer for me, go ahead. I've finished post-secondary school in the last six months, I'm looking for work, and I've paid for this game (thanks to careful budgeting) until June. My entertainment budget is fixed and has been spent.

My computers (even my old ones) still meet the specs for the game. If the computers were below game specs, then you might have a point. Until that time, the developers should be doing their job to eliminate any crashes they can.

This I agree with entirely.

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Have you ever tried to keep a team speedboosted on a kin thru an entire TF? Assuming one cast per 2 seconds, it takes 14 seconds to apply the buffs that in 90 seconds will expire. On top of that, you'll also be worrying about transfusion to keep players alive, keeping increase density on the squishes for mez protection, attacking to deal damage, and running in and using fulcrum whenever it's available. I'm watching the health bars of players, verifying that the target I'm targeting through them is in range of transfusion/transference when needed, watching my defenses to make sure I'm not facing cascade failure, and checking the team to see if I should wait 3 seconds for them to gather for fulc or just fire it. WHEW.

In other words, when I play a buff-oriented char, I'm usually preoccupied dealing with the entire team, and my focus on a single player doesn't work. On top of that, I use keybinds for teamselect. A simple D/C and suddenly you're one of the numbers I usually would buff.

So, I find the easiest, most efficient thing to do is offer it up to the team to decide whether to buff or not. Chances are, if the rest of the team wants SB and you don't, you probably don't want to play with them because you'll always have to catch up to them.

I used to try to oblige those that didn't want buffs. Now, it's all or none, because I will make a mistake sometime in the course of a TF, and you will get buffed, and probably will yell at me.

In other words, not buffing a player isn't always as trivial as you would think it is.

Wonderful. We all hate crashes.

I think it's a great idea. Keep asking for it.

I have found that playing characters with superspeed completely eliminates any issue of navigation you will encounter having speed boost. While you may still not like the power, taking steps to reduce the annoyance factor for you will only enhance the enjoyment you will get out of this game.

While I'm not the person you addressed this to, feel free to add a note to my global as well. It's the same as it is on the forums. As you may not play on Infinity server, you may not know how service oriented the Taxibots are, and how they do try to avoid hostilities. As Wendy is a Taxi, she has to abide by their rules, which includes treating other players with respect. Somehow, I doubt you'll need to add a playernote.

Yes, many times, the character I'm working on currently is a Fire/Kin. I just ran a Hess TF a couple of hours ago on it. One person responded to my standard question of "who doesn't want speed boost?" with "not in caves please." Know what? The task force went smooth as silk and that person's request was honoured.

Hmm, My first two fifties were Ill/Emp and Ice/FF, both with 500+ hours of play by the time they reached that point. I still play both regularly. The majority of my active characters are buff-oriented.

I probably wouldn't want to play with them, but only because if they are so focused on DPS to not accommodate a player's play style then that is not my idea of "fun".

I don't focus on getting to 50 the quickest, I focus on enjoying the game. I always have.

No, but I'll try to stay out of range, or find other ways to negate the buff on some of my characters. One of my favourites is to hover.

I've made my fair share of mistakes in the past, and I don't usually worry if someone buffs or fails to buff me by accident.

I do get annoyed if I get boosted into a group and die because someone assumes that I want it. I'll make a note on the character and if they do it too often I'll let them know.

I've found the exact opposite. I had super speed on one character for six months trying to get used to it. I prefer any other means of transportation over super speed. I'd use hover over it (and have).

I don't have an issue with the Taxibots. I've known several and people that do similar tasks on other servers too. Generally they are nice, helpful people. Even the one person that slightly annoys me from time to time, I respect (TonyV aka Taxibot Belle).

However when anyone tells someone else:
They have clearly demonstrated to me that they seek either cookie-cutter builds to team with or have a predefined notion of what a power set "should" do. Neither of which I do. I don't like people trying to dictate how I play my characters.

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That portion of that post Forbin is what we commonly refer to a S A R C A S M. Its a thing people do when they find something someone else has said on done so silly or stupid they come up with a totally rediculous statement that sort of sounds like they agree with that person but in reality they are making a joke. Oh by the way if you really are looking for that sign there is a tiny hidden tailor shop on PI that very few people know about that offers up a mission that will give you one.... and oh by the way that too is sarcasm.

The point being there is NO such sign and if I am out flying around and see your character with youre health bar in the red and facing 3 or 4 villains all still in relatively good shape .. I have NO way of knowing you are one of those few people that would rather die, go to the hospital, and LEARN A VALUABLE LESSON FROM THE EXPERIENCE. I've mentioned it several times now I have been HELPING people in game with buffs almost as long as I have played (4 years plus). I buff when I see someone in trouble that looks like they need help and unlike the nuts(?) that want to show off their new shiny buff and use it in Wentworths, at the Trainer, the Store, or Pocket D I only buff people I see on the street actually fighting villain groups. Unlike some I even take the time to see if they really need it.. why waste MY time if you are fine?

I check YOU first... How much life do you have left? How many villains are you battling? at times even what AT are you battling with? (A 30 level Blaster in Brickstown fighting eight 32 level Cery to try and get that new costume slot may need my help... a 30 level TANK fighting three of then? I doubt needs anything but more Crey)

I check WHAT you are fight.... what level are they? (Hey I see 40 levels pounding on 15 level Tsoo in Steel Canyon I seriously doubt they need me to stop what I m doing to buff them no matter how many bad guys there are) How much life do they have left and how many are left? (you are practically DEAD and there are three minion all still at full health and +1 or whatever higher than you pounding on you.. sounds like you are about to die to me).

If all that adds up to.. that guy looks like he needs a hand I drop in and give one. If a 50 level is in Skyway taking out 16 level Clockwork Bosses cause he wants his gearsmasher badge and doesn't feel like commiting to a Posi or Synapse to earn them... I have better things to do than swope down and buff him. On top of that if I did and then 30 seconds later spotted some poor 15 level half dead and facing 17 level Lost that not only are kicking his butt good but the Lost Boss has him asleep so he can't even fight.. I'd feel pretty bad if I couldn't buff him because I used them all up on that 50 and they are still recharging.

I am not your typical brain dead "Look I have a new power" Drive By Buffer .. I am a player that just happens to enjoy helping other players when it LOOKS like they need help. My point is some of the poster here seem to thing that NC Soft should devote Dev time, resources and whatever else to develop some ANTI-BUFF serum button they can push because they are annoyed. Sounds like in most cases it's occurring in places where with or without the buff its not affecting their ability to fight, live or die because they are not in a combat situation. A few other hard headed "Leave me alone I want to do it myself" types want something similar because "You buffed me now how am I ever supposed to learn what my powers can do?" Ummmmm how about finding another mob after I leave and starting over? Last I checked at no level in this game did you dramatically jump in ability after defeating 3 minions even if they happened to be enough to give you the XP to get to your next level. You get a new power at let's say level 12 and it has one whole enhancement slot you can put a 15 level IO or DO damage enhancer in to make it a little better. At the next level let's say it was an attack so you get 2 more slots and add a second damage enhancer and an accuracy enhancer. Now your power is starting to show you what it can become. Me buffing you while you fight ONE mob is not crushing your learning experience because you probably still have no real knowledge of what that power can do even at level 13. Hey I don't know how you enhance but on my scrappers, tankers and blasters at some point most if not all of my attack powers will wind up with three damage enhancers, one or two accuracy enhancers (depending on how accurate the power is to begin with) and if I have the slots a recharge enhancer or a range enhancer depending on which I need or want most. You are not getting that many slots on that power you took at level 12 even when you hit 13 so in reality you still don'y know exactly how well it can work.. have a really good idea based on what it can do then but you are still learning.

Okay so maybe I am not a typical Brive by buffer frankly my opinion is too many of you let way to many little things annoy you and ruin your game time. If any of you actually read all of my POSTs here you'll see that I agree the idiots buffing in WW and such are an annoyance. But enough to make me think we need todevote time, energy and resources to find a way players can stop the MADNESS? no! Unless you are ready to walk out the door of Wentworths how long are you going to be there? Your trying to sell salvage, IO enhancements, or recipes and get the best price... your trying to buy the same things and looking to get the lowest price. By the time you are done with all that how long is before that SB the jerk that walked by hit you with actually wears off? So becaue someone annoyed you for a minute maybe two you all want a BUTTON you can hit to prevent anyone from ever buffing you again. While we are at it can we get them to make one that turns off everyone's defense auras in Wentworth too? Hey it adds to the lag there and they aren't fighting anything why do they need those things on? BY THE WAY JUST TO CLARIFY THAT LAST STATEMENT WAS ALSO S A R C A S M!

If you are so dead set on the I can do it alone attitude do what some of the other posters here suggest. Stop fighting in the streets and get a door mission from your Police Scanner or one of your contacts and run it solo. You want to see how well your build does against higher level villains well guess what you can up the Difficult of that mission and face nothing but +4 level with bosses. If it turns out you SUCK on the way back from the hospital see the Field Rep. lower the difficult and reset the mission. Seem like a much more effective way to learn the way your powers work than running around looking for mobs in the street. Just keep doing that all the way to level 50 and you can stand proudly in front of Castle and yell in all cap in broadcast "I DID IT ALL MYSELF WITH NO HELP FROM ANYONE!" Oh at that point I suggest you retire you proud 50 and start all over since any ITF, LGTF, STF or any other team you may try to join is going to quickly realize you have no idea how to be a team player and kick you repeated.

Yeah, a WW buff doesn't make any sense. I can see how that would cause eyes to roll.

Well, I jumped back into this dog-pile so I'll randomly start here.

Yeah. I am an Eagle Scout.
I'm assuming "Grandma" wasn't under attack by Malta while she was standing at the street corner.
...back to the subject at hand...
If I buff someone and I get a tell from them that says something to the effect that they didn't want/need to be buffed, I would apologize for helping them. If they continued with or included some kind of insult, I'd put them on ignore. That would not stop me from helping the next character that I saw in trouble.
...in the end...
It really sound like you need to take your own advice from the end of your own post!
What you posted at the beginning is unrealistic. Not being in combat, I would have plenty of time to ask if she needed help. If for some crazed reason, I did force her to cross the street against her will - which I wouldn't - I would apologize to her....just like I would another player that I was trying to help out.

[NOTE: Last night the character -- that was going red while fighting on the street that I ice-shielded, buffed, and gave 4 respites to -- did not complain. ]