More stupid Drive-By Buffers!

More people have voiced their desire to block buffs over the years than people complained that they wanted the 60 day rule removed from the Market because they were too lazy to log into their characters at least once every 60 days.

Then again, it's hard to ask for something removed you don't realize is there. Most people who kicked off the threads asking for the removal had already run afoul of the cutoff. That probably didn't happen to that many people.

Just because folks who dislike unsolicited buffs are a larger group than that tiny minority doesn't suggest that they're a big enough minority to spur dev action.

I understand what you're saying. The point i was making is that the size of the group making the request isn't always a motivator for why the devs add or remove features to the game. They do what they think is best for the game as a whole.

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"They did this to me!"

Absolutely. If the devs thought something was seriously good for the game, they might do it even if none of the players wanted it.

Sometimes, if they think a feature is decent and easy to implement, they might slip it in even if only a few people want it.

It's when a feature is non-trivial to fit in that they would have to take a hard look at how many people it really benefited. I'm not saying a general buff prompt would be non-trivial to implement - I have no idea. But if it is non-trivial for some reason, it would surprise me if it was the kind of thing they would set aside time for on the basis of demand.

But hey, how many people wanted the ability to turn off XP?

My only hope is that if it is something non-trivial it will at least be something they have on the shelf and work on from time to time so that we might see it implemented at some point in the future when they discover that they are a little short on an issue and decide to finish it off and throw it in the game.

First of all, you've misquoted me. I never posted the second half of that quote.

Secondly, you've taken that quote out of context:

I was not saying that everyone who does the occasional drive by buff is a griefer. I was responding in regards to a specific person stating their intent/desire to create a character for the expressed purpose of spamming buffs on random players. It's this "because I can" attitude that I find arrogant, disrespectful and rude.

And yes, sweet cheeks, I call it griefing.
Though I grant you, whether the devs/gms agree may be a different story.

Don�t say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary. - R.W. Emerson

You're right, you didn't. I actually lost that adding it in an edit and didn't see it get added to what I was quoting from you - chalked it up to browser or forum weirdness making it disappear. It was *supposed* to be at the end of one of my statements, not yours.

Well, given theirs is what counts...

And what I responded to quoted THIS as I was skimming through, not that little chain you brought up:
Which did not have the rest of that chain in it. Thus the response.

See my Guides and Tutorials

Sophistry. If a normal gameplay action (in whatever game) causes you to crash out of the game, your system isn't stable. Be it bad hardware, bad drivers, bad interaction of hardware or drivers with the game itself.

Possibly. If your system is bombing to the desktop if someone applies SB, being able to remove it won't necessarily fix this. It's been applied. *KABOOM*. No chance.

Avoid? Maybe.

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You can't learn how to play the character's level then other 99.99% of the time you are not buffed during that level?

--Rad

Except I've had people give me a particular buff even after I've asked them not to. At that point, they either don't care or is an idiot. I leave the determination to the reader as to what they are.

Except, of course, if you have a computer that will crash when you are given a particular buff.

It would also be nice if the "suppress extra effects" option actually worked properly. It doesn't. If it did, you would not have to enable it every single session. It returns to being disabled every single time you start the game. Yes, I've bugged it several dozen times.

Actually it affects nVidia too. I've never had a ATI card, yet I have experienced the same fault in several computers. I think the problem is running a computer nearer to the minimum (yet still valid) requirements for the game.

In addition, even though I have a better system than when I started this game, I still sometimes request that I don't get a Speed Boost buff because it does negatively affect my game in certain circumstances.

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Or perhaps a faulty bit of code in the game that runs a procedure too often causing a stack overflow because the CPU/GPU just can't keep up. It would be happening apparently randomly that programmers would never be able to detect it normally.

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There is no such thing as SOLO play in an MMO unless you are unteamed in an Instance.

Yes, noone EVER had a key power recharge in time to save them because of being SBd. It has never happened. Especially not on my Warshade. >.>

qft & e

When the intent is to harass? Yes.

Your quote is wrong by the way. It doen't matter if you considered their feelings for griefing. Just that the intent was to harass. If someone asks you not to, then

Again, if it's happening on one machine, possibly tied to issues with a specific video card being unable to handle it, it's the machine. Were the machine built differently, it might not be happening.

All in all, silly to blame innocent people your (generic "you") machine's failings.

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That's griefing.

Randomly buffing someone, unasked, and who isn't blatantly adverting that they don't want to be buffed isn't.


That's your computer telling you something. FIX ME!


Nothing wrong with that. I tend to ask not to be speed boosted as well because I have all the subtle motor control of a brick traveling at supersonic velocity. But if someone gives me a drive-by, I don't gripe.

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I keep this in my mail, and use it on several of my characters. I've never seen it not work, or reset.

Angel Red
"We're heroes. Fighting injustice is the thing we do." ~Rebel Scum

I'm a programmer. If my code blows up for a user because I forgot to put in a safety check for a buffer overrun, it isn't the user's fault -- it's mine. It doesn't matter if 99.9999% of the users don't experience the failure.

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Hyperstrike aptly covered the responses I would have given.

Point #1: That IS griefing after you have explicitly asked them not to buff you.

Point #2: The care, feeding, and most importantly upgrading of *your* PC
is *your* problem... That's even more impossible for the would-be samaritan
buffer to determine from in-game... Sorry - that one doesn't fly for me.

Point #3: I have no issues at all about people not wanting to be buffed.

Let me know ahead of time, or after the fact, and I won't... During a
combat scenario, I'm gonna act on my own judgement, in the absence of any
previous communication to the contrary...

Also, as I mentioned, I'd be fine with having some quick, simple and convenient
way to dismiss buffs on my toon too. That would be a helpful QoL feature.


@Impish Kat:

This is too funny...

You want me to use a minimum of 18 keystrokes (enter to start local chat,
that text, and enter to send), wait an indeterminate number of seconds trying
to decide if A> you're too busy to reply, B> Unaware I'm talking to YOU,
C> Don't care one way or other what I do, D> Don't want any help, (all
while you're still taking damage), before deciding to buff or not...

OR

F1 (Heal) - You will NOT die in *this* fight, valiant hero... After you have
vanquished these ruffians, you can leisurely tell me if I did a Bad Thing...

Seriously?

Again, good luck with that - and get used to disappointment...


Regards,
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Hey, y'know what? There's this really cool thing that people keep mentioning called a "keybind" or "macro".

With just one press of a button you can send a catchy phrase either as a tell or in local chat to your target! And, as many "pro-buffers" have pointed out, a really clever person can have a ready-made reply as well!

Heck, a really, really, really clever person could set up this thing called a "rotating bind", that rotates through a string of appropriate responses!

But we know this thread isn't really about being clever, now, don't we?

Don�t say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary. - R.W. Emerson