A Plea to Resurrect War Witch
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Posted on: 2010-01-24 06:55 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
1. Since when has being dead stopped CoH characters from offering missions? (See: Eden Trial, Kelly Nemmers in Croatoa, and if you look at it from the perspective of 'modern day', all of Cimerora)
2. If being a lead dev means you get a TF, why isn't there a BAB TF? What about Ghost Widow? A pohsyb TF? Castle TF?
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I would rather have a BAB TF first. Something that targets levels 5-10 and is all in one zone. I like BAB, I don't care who is in charge, he is still my favorite Dev. Also my first character started in Galaxy City, and all those after. I have just always liked BAB.
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I too would like to see a BAB TF... preferably one involving that anti-drug group he had. I forgot the name... Regulators? Something like that?
Oh great, now I got this stuck in my head.
This calls for the Apex TF:
Mish 1: Retrieve the Heroicus Retconus from the CoT.
Mish 2: Retrieve War Witch's sword - that Apex lost in the sewers somewhere, for the resurrection ritual.
Mish 3-5: ???
Mish 6: PROFIT
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i have to say that it would be bad storytelling from my perspective. dying holds meaning, it is a sacrifice, if that just gets handwaved away for vanity, then it loses meaning. superman should still be dead, cap should have stayed dead, same with batman, and witch should stay dead. besides, she still can talk to us, and even numidia is non corporeal and gives a tf, so while id be thrilled to see her used more, she must stay dead.
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Agreed! War Witch is like Ghost Widow. Being dead is part of the character.|
Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
i have to say that it would be bad storytelling from my perspective. dying holds meaning, it is a sacrifice, if that just gets handwaved away for vanity, then it loses meaning. superman should still be dead, cap should have stayed dead, same with batman, and witch should stay dead. besides, she still can talk to us, and even numidia is non corporeal and gives a tf, so while id be thrilled to see her used more, she must stay dead.
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It's not like dying has actually stopped them from being here. :P
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Given that she's in Pocket D, I assume it'd be another Co-Op TF, and that strikes me as a Good Thing.
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BAB and castle are both trainers you see to lvl, GW is a contact, war witch is a trainer too (in PD and croatoa)|
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
2. If being a lead dev means you get a TF, why isn't there a BAB TF? What about Ghost Widow? A pohsyb TF? Castle TF?
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the only one which is not involved in game with anything is pohsyb, but all the other devs mentioned in the game already are used for something, if BABs was given a tf, then he should be replaced in galaxy by a different trainer, same thing for castle and war witch.
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Originally Posted by Tangler
This calls for the Apex TF:
Mish 1: Retrieve the Heroicus Retconus from the CoT. Mish 2: Retrieve War Witch's sword - that Apex lost in the sewers somewhere, for the resurrection ritual. Mish 3-5: ??? Mish 6: PROFIT |
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Would War Witch stay in Pocket D? My villains always appreciate her "Attaboy!" when they learn better villainy through her before going out and committing more crimes.
More power to War Witch! Just please don't let it be a Council TF...
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So, we've now got a new Lead Dev in Melissa "War Witch" Bianco which I personally believe is a very positive move for the game. Yet her in game persona, War Witch, lacks even the pizzaz she had in the comics.
In the comicbooks, War Witch was perky, feisty, fearless and fun - and made a great signature character - but her in game presence is a ghost, or a guide who makes the odd (somewhat wistful) wisecrack in Pocket D. I believe that now that Melissa is in charge, War Witch should be elevated to some senior position in game - and get her own Task Force. There's precedent for this too - almost nobody in comics ever stays dead for long and War Witch herself demonstrates that by having two presences in game. Added to which, it became clear that when NCSoft took over the IP from Cryptic, Positron clearly became elevated in game and in the minds of the players. What's more it worked well, with the Positron/Daedalus thing but Posi was also at the forefront of Power Proliferation as Raymond Keyes discovered that hereoes and villains were able to do new things. War Witch is a great character and it seems fitting that she should be able to build her in game presence too. |
I actually just the other day, sent War Witch my plot for that occuring. If/when back details every come out, I'll be making the story into a comic book like my comics at www.justiceknights.net. Since the story has Apex in it and I want him to be able to carry the sword at times, I am ready to just jump in once we have back details. The story, at least I believe, is a natural progression of where the characters were going and everything. If it takes too much longer for back details, I may just simply post it or something...
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i do like the idea of the Apex TF.
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Bah, you know that his TF would just be a sewer run with team wipes left and right. He's a N00B!
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Originally Posted by Jophiel
Would War Witch stay in Pocket D? My villains always appreciate her "Attaboy!" when they learn better villainy through her before going out and committing more crimes.
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War Witch (or someone who looks a lot like her) appears in a couple of the fight scenes in the I7 GrandvilleTrailer fighting alongside the villains.
It's good to know the new Lead Dev is one of us.
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Bah, you know that his TF would just be a sewer run with team wipes left and right. He's a N00B!
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Sounds like a fun team to me to be honest
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I wouldn't hold my breath. Apex is currently too busy at his job as assistant to the regional manager of City of Gyros.
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What some of the other have mentioned in true no signature hero in game is both a contact and a trainer so they'd be replacing BAB in Galaxy to give him a TF.. I like seeing BAB in Galaxy so let's find someone else. No idea who since it seems like every signature hero either trains or is a contact now as it is.. may need to create a contact for this.....|
Originally Posted by Zyphoid
I would rather have a BAB TF first. Something that targets levels 5-10 and is all in one zone. I like BAB, I don't care who is in charge, he is still my favorite Dev. Also my first character started in Galaxy City, and all those after. I have just always liked BAB.
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I do like the idea of a low level TF but maybe we should make it something shorter like a trial with a few missions and then a final confrontation. Problem with a 5-10 level TF is you put 7 or 8 players together running any missions and it wouldn't be long before all of them out leveled the task force they were on and were ready to do Positron. Also at that level villain types available are a little limited and we already have a Posi at level 10 that pits us against Circle of Thorns, Vahzilok and Clockwork. Off the top of my head how about a short trial involving Skulls, Hellions and Outcast?
Form a TF: Rumors are circulating that the Skulls, Hellions and Outcast are negotiating to set aside their past issues and unit to become much more of a threat. We need intelligence and now to find the site of this meeting and prevent it from happing.
Mission one: Defeat Bonecrusher and his Minions, searh for clues (One glowie containing some info on the meeting) SKULLS
Mission two: Defeat Hellspawn and his follower, rescue Detective Jones (Jones was kidnapped because he'd discovered more info on the meeting place) Hellions
Mission three: Defeat Tempest and his men, serch for clue (one glowie containing the final clue to the meeting place) Outcast
Mission four: Take the clues to Paco Sanchez in Galazy ( Paco pieces together the clues and gives you the location of the meeting)
Mission five: Defeat the gang leader and stop Frostfire (Hey I had to pick someone to be the AV/EB right? Scattered throughout a cave players will face bosses and minions from each group and then finally face off against Frostfire who came up with the plan to unit the warring gangs and wreck havoc on the city)
Okay it's rough but not too long and gives the TF and chance to battle all the gangs in order to find the location of the final mission. Add a badge.. GangBuster is taken so I don't have a clue what to call it.and maybe an added bonus of a accolade style power to help thise lower levels out .. how about something that boosts stamina for a short period of time ever 30 minutes?
As for War Witch I sort of agree she should stay a ghost. Hey she already has more work than most signature characters training heroes in Croatoa and both heroes and villains in Pocket D.
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War Witch is a ghost now, so she's become more powerful than we can possibly imagine 
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So War Witch is a Jedi? Wait, she has a fire (red) sword... so would she be a Sith then?
It all makes SENSE now!
So, we've now got a new Lead Dev in Melissa "War Witch" Bianco which I personally believe is a very positive move for the game. Yet her in game persona, War Witch, lacks even the pizzaz she had in the comics.
In the comicbooks, War Witch was perky, feisty, fearless and fun - and made a great signature character - but her in game presence is a ghost, or a guide who makes the odd (somewhat wistful) wisecrack in Pocket D.
I believe that now that Melissa is in charge, War Witch should be elevated to some senior position in game - and get her own Task Force. There's precedent for this too - almost nobody in comics ever stays dead for long and War Witch herself demonstrates that by having two presences in game. Added to which, it became clear that when NCSoft took over the IP from Cryptic, Positron clearly became elevated in game and in the minds of the players. What's more it worked well, with the Positron/Daedalus thing but Posi was also at the forefront of Power Proliferation as Raymond Keyes discovered that hereoes and villains were able to do new things.
War Witch is a great character and it seems fitting that she should be able to build her in game presence too.
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