Discussion - Going Rogue Goodies!

I've been following the news about the Clockwork and the Clockwork King on Praetorian Earth for some time now, and the news is...there is no news. As far as official information releases go so far, the Praetorian Clockwork are the creations of Raymond Keyes (who going on the so far established one-to-one relationship between Primal Earth and Praetorian counterparts) should be Anti-Matter the Praetorian counterpart of Positron.

Considering that Nemesis has kinda been 'written out' of Praetorian Earth (dying a humble toymaker) according to what we know at present, it's not too surprising that in the interests of making the new characters more fleshed out some of our old favourites have been cut from the team.

I'm absolutely certain though (read: this is just guesswork), that:

Praetorian Clockwork is PEOPLE!

Hgrrhg okay, cor it's been an eternity since I've posted here.

Ultra Mode will be pretty, hopefully. I am also chiming in with the handful of other people for old content revamps and glowy costumes, but I've always been an altoholic so old content revamps are pretty much the most kickin' rad thing as far as I'm concerned.

While I appreciate Jay's fabulous posting style I did think it was a little rude on the level that it soooort of implied that people who were hoping the featured NPC's costume was player-usable were fat basement-dwelling people. Also it did come pretty late, and blah blah blah dearth of GR information people are going to presume blah blah blah etc.

At least, insinuations of fat basement-dwelling were what I gleaned from the bits about the basement and the disused treadmill. I won't even go into what I garnered from the "splat splat splat" bit with that in mind.

Rather on the subject of costumes and revamps and the like, though, part of me wonders if this game can even really hope to "catch up" with more contemporary MMOs as far as graphics are concerned. Sure, the newer things are pretty enough, but... we don't even have faces here. Or asymmetry with costumes, which is useful for some things, glowy bits, lots and lots of costume tidbit slots, and character animation styles.

Honestly, devs, if you want to just kinda steal whatever you can use from The Other Superhero MMO's™ character creator, I live near their building. Something could be... arranged.

That's neither here nor there, though. The best part of Going Rogue for me is that I won't have to really play City of Being Some NPC's Lackey in a Steadily Dwindling Population just because I prefer Dominators, Brutes, and Corruptors. Also, Shiny Mode.

Just because it amuses me, here is a reply from my SG's boards when I re-posted Teh Sexxy 1's post there:

I think people are drawing too many analogues between Praetorian and Primal Earth. I think I read someone putting the lack of Nemesis there was some kind of ret-con that they were disgruntled about. There are massive differences between Praetoria and Primal and the Praetorian Guard/Freedom Phalanx offers one of the few analogues in terms of characters. However...

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I've been following the news about the Clockwork and the Clockwork King on Praetorian Earth for some time now, and the news is...there is no news. As far as official information releases go so far, the Praetorian Clockwork are the creations of Raymond Keyes (who going on the so far established one-to-one relationship between Primal Earth and Praetorian counterparts) should be Anti-Matter the Praetorian counterpart of Positron. Considering that Nemesis has kinda been 'written out' of Praetorian Earth (dying a humble toymaker) according to what we know at present, it's not too surprising that in the interests of making the new characters more fleshed out some of our old favourites have been cut from the team. I'm absolutely certain though (read: this is just guesswork), that: Praetorian Clockwork is PEOPLE!

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That got a "no comment" from Hero1 at Hero Con Silence on the issue only feeds my rabid paranoid fantasies that he has a huge role to play on Praetorian Earth but that its' being kept under wraps at the mo. What's my speculation you ask? That being the immense psychic that he is, he'll be able to hide 'under the radar' from Mother Mayhem and the Psychic Friends Network. The King is in the Resistance, hiding them from Tyrant and his cronies. What's that? You didn't ask for my opinion? Then what are you doing reading it?

Raymond Keyes invented the Clockwork. *cough* ******** *cough* No offence to Positron, but either these guys aren't Clockwork, or he didn't create them. The Clockwork are not defined by the fact that they are powered by clockwork...because they aren't. They are powered by psychic energy, and not only the fact that even if Positron did make these Clockwork they would not be powered by Clockwork and thus there is no logic behind their naming, but Positron has no psychic power and consequently he would not be able to power them.

Of course, there could be an answer that both answers the question of Positron having invented them, but them still being Clockwork. Positron designed the robot workforce, but the incredibly, mind-blowingly powerful psychic that that humble, disshevelled young man is, is the power source for this host of robot soldiers....but if that were true it does make me frown I had planned on creating a Clockwork based on the idea that the Clockwork were actually sentient, but it appears as though this makes much more sense.

The more I think about it, the more it seems to make sense. In Praetoria the Freedom Phalanx are "the bad guys" - well to some, to others they're the Lord and Saviour - so it would make sense for an arch-villain such as the Clockwork King to be a good guy, in a way. He has probably been captured by Positron ad forced as a kind of power source to control this army of Clockwork machines. But just think about it...if the Praetorian Empire consists of the world...there must be millions of these machines. That is power that can't be rivalled.

Well, except by Penelope Yin. Probably why he was so interested in her, she must be the only individual on Earth powerful enough to take his place once he's gone. But really, WTF is he trying to do?

But anyway I'm getting off-topic, the Clockwork King is probably another one of the Praetorian Guard's dark little secrets. Becuase of his capture and his power, for all we know he could be working with the Resistance to secure his freedom.

I don't get why people cannot understand this...

The Praetorian 'Clockwork' might not be ANYTHING at all to do with the Prime Earth Clockwork.
The whole reason they are even named clockwork at all (afaik) is that, in the old Praetorian stuff, Anti-matter and Neuron based their robot designs on the Clockwork Kings minions after having taken a look-see at Prime Earth. That old history is now obsolete.

The Clockwork of Prime Earth work because of the Clockwork King, and the way he is. In Praetoria he might not have had his head staved in by Blue Steel, he might not have been the way he is on Prime Earth, hells, he might not even be psychic.

The name 'Praetorian Clockwork' is, I would guess, either the name given to them by Prime Earth people (In the same way we gave Tyrant his ncik-name) or a place-holder for their actual name.
But, as ever, until we get actual redname confirmation on any of this;
We Don't Know.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Dude....it's an alternate reality. Not only could the clockwork king not be a psychic, he could be a women, a different race, or not exist at all.