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Does that mean that people who prepurchase will have access to dual pistols ON LIVE before everyone else does when i17 goes live?
Yes. Dual Pistols are not dependent on I17. They come out when they come out.

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Or is that an opportunity for those who DIDN'T go to Herocon, DON'T have 60 months, and may have let their account lapse during the loyalty period to get in on beta before it goes live?
Possibly also yes. In the past, betas have added waves of testers. Normally I would say that you would have access to beta regardless of your various statuses (statii?)...but in this case possibly also no--I'm expecting them to roll out a Demon Summoning-only beta right after DP goes live.

Incidentally, you'll also get LIVE access to Demon Summoning prior and independent of I17/GR. Just not in time for DXP. Also, I think you might be making things harder than they are. I certainly didn't not have had some possible issues with yes in fact not understanding your currently recent post.


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Oh God, it all makes sense now! Oo

Also, I just want to point this out;
Is everyone 100% sure that Dual pistols and Demon Summoning are free content? Because last time I checked, it seemed like they were being included in Going Rogue. NOT an Issue.

Now, I may very well be wrong on that. But just throwing it out there, into the sea of speculation. Because it seemed that way in the Herocon vids. *goes to check again*

Edit: Yup. "Two new powersets in Going Rogue." 05:50 in the vid here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SItM3OLqb5w

Ergo, Dual Pistols are Demon Summoning are GR powersets, as I thought from when that vid came out.


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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The statement from Avatea that was being questioned is this: Now... yes, everyone is getting access to dual pistols before Going Rogue. It's being released as part of I17. That's not in question.
Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning are NOT a part of I17 - they´re an exclusive feature of GR - so when I17 goes live everyone will NOT have access to DP and DS.
If you buy GR in advance, you get access to one of its features in advance on the live servers as a perk - it´s as simple as that.


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Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning are NOT a part of I17 - they´re an exclusive feature of GR - so when I17 goes live everyone will NOT have access to DP and DS.
If you buy GR in advance, you get access to one of its features in advance on the live servers as a perk - it´s as simple as that.
That much is certain fact. Unless they've changed that since Herocon.


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Now, I may very well be wrong on that. But just throwing it out there, into the sea of speculation. Because it seemed that way in the Herocon vids. *goes to check again*

Edit: Yup. "Two new powersets in Going Rogue." 05:50 in the vid here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SItM3OLqb5w

Ergo, Dual Pistols are Demon Summoning are GR powersets, as I thought from when that vid came out.
That´s correct - to access DP and DS you must buy GR - and if you buy it in advance, they´ll let you access the two new power sets on the live servers a couple of months before GR goes live.


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Ok... I reread the announce and.. ya... I had a reading comprehension fail about what was and was not in I17 - perhaps it was wishful thinking on my part.

I still would like a bit more clarification on the subject of dual pistols being available early on live. I don't find that "explicit" or clear at all.


 

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GG, I think your avatar should be a slide show of the Golden Girl's cast :\


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GG, I think your avatar should be a slide show of the Golden Girl's cast :\

The Old Lady MM powerset! We're all DOOMED!



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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Yesterday I posted a request that someone from the development team and/or their representative clarify Avatea's comments about the benefits of pre-ordering GR. I pointed out the lack of clarity caused speculation and guessing, which in turn leads to rumor and pointless bickering.

Since then, a good number of posts have come along to demonstrate my point beautifully. A couple people are certain they know what's what, but no one, not one person has linked to any comment from a red name backing up their own opinion.

Arguments like "it's common sense", "it's just that simple", and "it must be" carry no real weight. Regardless of what we might want, hope for, or think; the development team is the only group of people who know when DR and DS powerset will be available.

Based on Positron's powerpoint show at Hero Con, these new sets are part of GR, but Avatea's post talks about early access to these same sets. No where does she specify where that access will occur, ie on Test or on Live, and that was and remains the question.

To those who've exhaustedly expressed their opinions on the topic, none of which have been a red name or NCSoft employee, if you have information to back up your opinion or theory please link to it in your post. I'd love to find a concrete answer to this question, it may indeed exist elsewhere on the forums. So, if you know where it is, dazzle me with your search fu and whip out a link.

Otherwise, there is no point continuing this conversation with more unsupported opinions and pipe dreams, well no point beyond inflating one's post count I suppose.


 

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That´s correct - to access DP and DS you must buy GR - and if you buy it in advance, they´ll let you access the two new power sets on the live servers a couple of months before GR goes live.
Where did you read that Pre-Order GR = Early access to DR/DS on live servers? I know Avatea said we would have the opportunity to have early access to those powersets, but she did not specify if that was on live or on test. Is there another red name post elsewhere that clarifies the issue? If so, where?

I suspect you are making deductions based on what you've read and what you think they mean, but for every person who's certain they mean "on live" there's another who's certain they mean "on test". That debate is pointless, hard facts quoted from a red name are the only real answer. So, again, where did you find the "on live or on test" issue addressed by a red name?


 

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We don't know. GG is assuming.
No one knows. I would hedge a bet that it would be early on Live, because it makes little to no sense to have it on test. I may well be wrong.

So, yes. Until we get Red name confirmation, we don't know.


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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GG, I think your avatar should be a slide show of the Golden Girl's cast :\
Well, during the 2007 anniversary party in Pocket D, Synapse gave me this temp title


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Here it is...

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...38#post2605438

From Avatea, the answer is "on live".

Thanks to Riverdancer for pointing this out to me. There's the answer, backed up by a link to a red name's post.

Cheers.
Thanks Ice.

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Thanks Ice.

Golden Girl, tell me server and side, and I'll set you up with your million inf.
Your forum avatar looks hungry, so I'll donate the 1 million Inf to you to buy her/him some super-petfood


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and where do i preorder it from? cause i wanna get it as soon as possible!! been waitin a while and to know i have it already even before it comes out will be frickin awesome


 

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There's the answer, backed up by a link to a red name's post.
Yes.


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I'm not trying to be over critical here, but is anyone else annoyed by how little info they are actually giving us concerning GR? I'm sorry, but by now they could have easily said the target date for pre-orders and yet . . . nothing. The GR Website has basically NO INFORMATION on it what-so-ever and what little "content" there is on that website has barely been updated since it first went on-line. Here is my suggestions 1-target date for pre-order period limited to no more than a 2 week period. 2-It's time for some real information and screen shots, especially for the Demon MM. The Test Server has been abuzz for a while now, they should have some good shots for us. 3- an explanation of why the release of GR has been move to the 3rd quarter of 2010 would be nice. I am sure it will be something like "way harder than we expected" but at least give us that. And 4- KEEP US UPDATED. Our $15.00 a month may not be much individually, but I think we deserve that much at least. Oh and that money is keeping you and yours fed btw. Come on Devs, just throw us a bone once in a while.


 

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I'm sorry, but by now they could have easily said the target date for pre-orders and yet . . . nothing.

Pre orders have been announced in a couple of gaming webzines as March 2nd. What's in it has yet to be announced, but that's probably either next week or the week after.

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especially for the Demon MM. The Test Server has been abuzz for a while now, they should have some good shots for us.
It's stated elsewhere that the only thing being tested on Test Server right now is dual pistols, so if anyone on there has demon summoning shots, I think the devs might want to discuss things with them.

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3- an explanation of why the release of GR has been move to the 3rd quarter of 2010 would be nice.
And GR is due to be released in July 2010. Given that they never PROMISED that it would be released in Q2, just indicated that late Q2 was their target goal, I would expect that a slip of a couple of weeks isn't that big a deal.

Your rant is one of the reasons they so rarely tell us the target goals, and demands like the one you made is less likely to get us information, not more likely.

Your $15 gets you into the servers, PERIOD. It doesn't entitle you or me - or even Arcanaville, Arbiter Fabulous, and Samuraiko - to anything else.


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so double xp weekend gives you duel pistols but not demon summoning interesting, is the end game a pay only feature i wonder because they keep talking about it as part of GR i think?


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so double xp weekend gives you duel pistols but not demon summoning interesting, is the end game a pay only feature i wonder because they keep talking about it as part of GR i think?
It will be, as it's one of the big features in GR.


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It will be, as it's one of the big features in GR.
ok hard to read dev speak sometimes ;p


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an explanation of why the release of GR has been move to the 3rd quarter of 2010 would be nice. I am sure it will be something like "way harder than we expected" but at least give us that.
Reading between the lines, I'd say that it was the endgame system that was proving challenging - which is why Positron is overseeing it personally.
The actual Praetorian content could be pretty close to being finished by now - once they've built the zones, filling them with missions will be faster now that they're using a version of the MA for it.


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