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Again damzy, 14 level 50s here... and I suck on most of them.
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But for power information surely you know what each powers does and what situation to use it in is if another player asked?
Man im loosing this badly. *looks for get outta jail free card*
Edit: My point being in that when he said he had 20 level 50s he instantly jumped to saying "all it shows is you like grinding and nothing else". Not sure how to word it right which is the worst part. Ok hows this:
For in-depth information/tactics you would go to somebody whose been playing a certain combo for many years, however if you wanted information about a number of powers/combos with the general knowledge that he/she would be correct it'ld be far easier to go to someone with a lot of experience in those powers.
There think that makes sense.
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I've been playing MA/Regen for quite a while - not sure I'm an expert on them though
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I've been playing MA/Regen for quite a while - not sure I'm an expert on them though
[/ QUOTE ]Have you learned how to use the movement keys properly yet, or do you still refuse SB?
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But for power information surely you know what each powers does and what situation to use it in is if another player asked?
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You have no idea how much he sucks.
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Isn't integration that green glowing thing you forget to turn on GG? What's that one do?
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It protects me from being knocked over
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I've been playing MA/Regen for quite a while - not sure I'm an expert on them though
[/ QUOTE ]Have you learned how to use the movement keys properly yet, or do you still refuse SB?
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I use the arrow keys to move - and I still don't take SB, unless it's for a static fight
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Sure, I'll throw a MAJOR hissy fit whenever I see a VEAT in my team without Tactical Training: Maneuvers. But if I'm leading, I won't kick them. I'll tell them they really really REALLY should get it the next time they level up and get to choose a new power.
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I haven't got it. Level 20 so far and not even looked at it. Anyone that would kick me from a team for not having a power on my character that they think I should have is not someone I would team twice with. My character, my choice.
[/ QUOTE ]Of course, it's your choice, I even said so.
However, I do dare to claim it as an objective factual truth that it is also a bad choice. Same bucket as not taking Enervating Field, Fulcrum Shift, Fortitude, and so forth.
I have no right to tell you you're not allowed to skip powerset-defining (or, in the case of VEATs, archetype-defining) powers, but I will advise you to rectify this mistake. Depending on how you react - whether by stubbornly denying the team (and yourself) a constant 16% defense to all despite explanations on why it's one of the best powers in the game, or by explaining to me in a convincing manner why you don't find it useful (for both yourself and the other people teaming with you) - I'll either nod respectfully or just shut up and mentally label you as a moron, but you shouldn't really care about the latter in an MMORPG where everyone is anonymous, right? Right.
Of course, not taking Maneuvers revokes you of all rights to express annoyance if you faceplant.
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But for power information surely you know what each powers does and what situation to use it in is if another player asked?
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You have no idea how much he sucks.
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Hope your not saying i suck?
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Hope your not saying i suck?
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Go backtrack. Work out what was going on. Don't get between me and some BlueRabbit when I'm tired and irritable.
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Just a couple of things I'd like to comment on here.
I don't care how long you've been playing, or how many 50s you have, if you start dictating to me how to build and / or play my character you are going to be told where to stick it. The length of time you have been playing does NOT give you the right to start ordering other people about. Advise, suggest, sure, but start giving an "I'm better than you 'cos I have more 50s / vet badges than you" attitude and you're going to get peoples backs up. What's right for you isn't necessarily right for them.
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"Best piece of advice I got was GET STAMINA!"
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"I played my PB without Stamina from 8-50 - stamina isn't NEEDED"
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(Not exact quotes, but paraphrased - point is still suitably illustrated)
Well la-di da, well done you. Your paper hat is in the post. That is elitism; "a superior attitude"
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IM scratching my head over that one too.
How is "the best peice of ADVICE I got was to GET STAMINA"
In anyway elitist? It specfically states it was ADVICE!
And probably the most important peice of build advice any of us could get as a new player.
Elitist?
Arguments in this thread took a sharp turn away from logical many pages back; just go with the flow.
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IM scratching my head over that one too.
How is "the best peice of ADVICE I got was to GET STAMINA"
In anyway elitist? It specfically states it was ADVICE!
And probably the most important peice of build advice any of us could get as a new player.
Elitist?
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I suppose it depends on how he took getting the advice, or how he was given it.
Someone telling me get stamina was a defining moment in this game for me, but it was a great guy who told me.
Had i had a [censored] in a team i didnt know order me to get stamina, it might not have been recieved so well.
Getting Stamina is probably one of the best bits of advice new players can be given. Sure it isnt a vital necessity on all builds but in my experience it takes a while to understand the game well enough to be able to play successfully in a staminaless build. Sadly I have never managed this and all my alts have and rely on it lol
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Your bordering on why I don't like to see people use the words "needed" or "must-have". It's a way of trying to limit others with your own limitations but having said that I am sure many of my staminaless toons have come to limit others with my limitations but then I might have other flexibilities.
Ingame I may say somit in quick note form as I have only so much time to kill my target and/or prefer people to try to look and things in the highest light and this can go from what was from me a suggestion to them a order.
I do have some experimental..well masochistic builds and so when I see other peoples experimental/concept builds I would be pot-kettle in telling people what they should get.
I will say get taunt tho which should go without saying
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One time my brother was making food for the rest of us and after the meal he was expecting "thank yous" and pats on the back for well made dinner. The sheep of course complied but I had to disagree. I'd had better and had few good tips how he could improve hes cooking skillz. He of course felt a bit offended but if you never tell the other part how much they su.. what they are doing wrong they will never get better.
He eventually agreed and admitted I was right. Its just getting over the fact that some people know better.
Of course you can't fight over individual preferences (well you can but its fairly pointless) over how much salt the food should have but if we use majority as a baseline there are clear rights and wrongs.
So if I'm tell you are doing something wrong it's not elitism it's constructive criticism... maybe just in not so constructive form. But hey. Feel free to give me some "constructive criticism"
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You're not elite until you can comfortably navigate the Shadow Shards or Grandville with just SS. Until then you're just a pretender (I can do neither).
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Your using the word "sheep" there, to me that means they all agreed the food was good but didn't think so or atleast you didn't think they felt that way. Then you gave a subjective opinion based on what you think the majority would agree on.
Now by using the majority as a baseline to determine the clear rights and wrongs we are going with the flow, and doing what everyone else does and so become like the sheep.
Paradox?
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Again damzy, 14 level 50s here... and I suck on most of them.
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But for power information surely you know what each powers does and what situation to use it in is if another player asked?
Man im loosing this badly. *looks for get outta jail free card*
Edit: My point being in that when he said he had 20 level 50s he instantly jumped to saying "all it shows is you like grinding and nothing else". Not sure how to word it right which is the worst part. Ok hows this:
For in-depth information/tactics you would go to somebody whose been playing a certain combo for many years, however if you wanted information about a number of powers/combos with the general knowledge that he/she would be correct it'ld be far easier to go to someone with a lot of experience in those powers.
There think that makes sense.
Damz < < < in danger of being noob busted
Edit2: Coming from a new players perspective all that is i'll add
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