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lol You want Elitism jst head over to the Legends threads on Union part of Forum .. What better example than a bunch of ppl who think themselves legends when they are unknown/ignored by massive majority of the game and recognised by only the friends who also put them and themselves up for Legend status!

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It might not be just the Union thread


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I think i am elitist, specially when it comes to costumes. I tend to ridicule those who i think look ridiculous

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I hope you never see some of my Alts costumes then I have some real road wrecks


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lol You want Elitism jst head over to the Legends threads on Union part of Forum .. What better example than a bunch of ppl who think themselves legends when they are unknown/ignored by massive majority of the game and recognised by only the friends who also put them and themselves up for Legend status!

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Um...no, I've never seen anyone on those threads, both Defiant and Union who has put themselves up.

And actually, they aren't only the friends. A lot of people knew people like Mighty, it wasn't just a circle of friends.


 

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Worst thing is the people that don't like the original post or a good discussion, quickly ruining it with "humourous" posts and oneliners so noone can be bothered to plough through the thread. Old, very efficient technique and I truly hate it.

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Oy - I object as I'll try (and fail at) humor even if I agree/like the OP and I love a good discussion.

Luckily I'll also often insert a second or third line to avoid it being a mere oneliner.


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I think i am elitist, specially when it comes to costumes. I tend to ridicule those who i think look ridiculous

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If/When MaX returns I must get you two on the same team, once you have regained the power of speech I want to hear your comments on his costumes


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Thing is, this in itself is actually very elitist as you're saying you don't want to play with other people, just the ones you consider to be fun and good to play with.

Elitism goes more than one way.

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If you had any idea about the amount of PuG's i create and lead to most people's enjoyment then you would not have said that. I think it takes a lot of effort to lead a team and make sure everyone's not only enjoying themselves, but going at a good pace. This includes New players as well as Old. I do my best to make friends everywhere and to help people whenever i can. Any insinuation that i am in any way Elitist is frankly, offensive.

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I think I have met you in game, you have a villain MM with Storm secondary by any chance?


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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Sure, I'll throw a MAJOR hissy fit whenever I see a VEAT in my team without Tactical Training: Maneuvers. But if I'm leading, I won't kick them. I'll tell them they really really REALLY should get it the next time they level up and get to choose a new power.

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I haven't got it. Level 20 so far and not even looked at it. Anyone that would kick me from a team for not having a power on my character that they think I should have is not someone I would team twice with. My character, my choice.

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I find this acceptable but here is the thing with me. Your characters odds on more likely to be a little more offensive. You will get in trouble from having a greater threat level. My characters got the maneuvers but as a result of slotting it, I may do less attack chains to the end bar, and have less threat, your in trouble, I am not, I need end rec for more dps..but its only because "i r ebul!" I wouldn't think twice bout turning mine off.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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lol You want Elitism jst head over to the Legends threads on Union part of Forum .. What better example than a bunch of ppl who think themselves legends when they are unknown/ignored by massive majority of the game and recognised by only the friends who also put them and themselves up for Legend status!

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It might not be just the Union thread

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I got put up by people I didn't know


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I think i am elitist, specially when it comes to costumes. I tend to ridicule those who i think look ridiculous

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If/When MaX returns I must get you two on the same team, once you have regained the power of speech I want to hear your comments on his costumes

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MaX has a sense of taste.

Pity it clashes with everyone else's though. You kind of get used to it in the end. When your sense of vision returns that is.


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lol You want Elitism jst head over to the Legends threads on Union part of Forum .. What better example than a bunch of ppl who think themselves legends when they are unknown/ignored by massive majority of the game and recognised by only the friends who also put them and themselves up for Legend status!

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It might not be just the Union thread

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I got put up by people I didn't know

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I put no one up and never will. People come and go, either serving their purpose or phailing. You're all n00bs to me


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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I think i am elitist, specially when it comes to costumes. I tend to ridicule those who i think look ridiculous

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If/When MaX returns I must get you two on the same team, once you have regained the power of speech I want to hear your comments on his costumes

[/ QUOTE ]Come on now, my costumes aren't quite that awesome.


 

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What is with the extra-anonymity? Is it suddenly fashionable or cool to come back with a trial account and have people trying to guess who you are or intentionally/unintentionally look holier than thou art without having people know your past failures or what?


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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What is with the extra-anonymity? Is it suddenly fashionable or cool to come back with a trial account and have people trying to guess who you are or intentionally/unintentionally look holier than thou art without having people know your past failures or what?

[/ QUOTE ]My past what? Sorry, I don't associate with that word.

And it's pseudonymity, not anonymity.

I simply made a trial account since I saw comments so wrong that I just had to correct them, and then figured I might as well keep posting for the rest of the trial period.


 

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the problem is trying to explain you have to get to level 20 to be able to get Stamina .. ..now that would make a good Vet reward ..stamina with no pre req's

by now you thing it would be on the first splash screen .. GET STAMINA ....

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Why should it? Stamina is useful sure, but by no means essential. I've made plenty of successful builds without it, so telling people they NEED it is just another form of elitism.

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In my opinion actually, you saying that, because you personally dont need it it isnt essential, generally is the very elitism the ops talking about not the other way round.

You either have to pick the build that doesnt need it or be one of those players who is quite happy to stop to rest every second minion from about level 8 till 20.

Most builds are disproportionately low on stamina between those levels and most people dont find that as fun.
The quality of life experience of playing the game dramatically improves when the average new player with the average build gets stamina and i think you know it.


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It's the same thing to me, there has been a string of players coming on forums, not being openly obvious about who they are and making comments.

I don't get the need to correct people tho, if I left the game, I'd of left it. It's not like you can save the world or anything.

This me doing somit whilst zoning and making dinner.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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I don't get the need to correct people tho, if I left the game, I'd of left it. It's not like you can save the world or anything.

[/ QUOTE ]I've not left the game, I'm simply on an extended break. I still read the forums.


 

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I don't get the need to correct people tho, if I left the game, I'd of left it. It's not like you can save the world or anything.

[/ QUOTE ]I've not left the game, I'm simply on an extended break. I still read the forums.

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Sometimes his parole officer lets him post on them too


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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I don't want to make this into some kind of rant but i really do think that some people in this game are getting more and more of an Elitist attitude.

Some think that because they've been here longer or played the game a while, it is their right to treat everyone else like idiots, Like they're lower than they are just because they don't play 7 days a week. I have a dear friend who is relatively new to the game and i'm doing my best to teach her all about it. However she is scared to death of teaming with some people because if she makes a single mistake or doesn't do something, they treat her like the worlds going to end and that she's a world class idiot, When really she's just new to the game and is learning the ropes.

It's not just in game either, on these very forums there are people that really believe they can dismiss any topic and tell people to get lost just because They have been here longer and therefore have discussed the topic before. We wonder why we get few new people and i for one believe it's for this exact reason.

I'm in no way intending to tar everyone with the same brush, i'm sure there are just as many good people out there who do their best to help others, I certainly try my hardest to help new players. I just feel like there are some that automatically think that Age = Wisdom, which i'm sorry is just not the case. A more understanding attitude would go a long way imho, to making this game better all round.

I just had to get that out before i go eat my Sunday Roast <3

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The problem here is they are right, they have been here longer they have played more so they do know more about the game.

Im an Elitist and proud of it, i think my four and a half years of playing and 20 lvl 50s gives me that right.


 

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Im an Elitist and proud of it, i think my four and a half years of playing and 20 lvl 50s gives me that right.

[/ QUOTE ]Well it shows you like grinding, not sure what else really.


 

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Im an Elitist and proud of it, i think my four and a half years of playing and 20 lvl 50s gives me that right.

[/ QUOTE ]Well it shows you like grinding, not sure what else really.

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Ohhhhh maxxxx iiiiiiiii invite you to bite me, but yes i do enjoy grinding so much its what makes this game great and you should know.


 

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Im an Elitist and proud of it, i think my four and a half years of playing and 20 lvl 50s gives me that right.

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Everyone has a right to be elitist. Or to think they are elite. However, it dosent make them elite, whatever that word means anyway. For me, its polyfactoral and will of course include a judgement of that persons character.

And, of course, being elitist will have consequences. Personally, I cant see any significantly positive ones. Negative ones, I can see in abundance.

I for one dont give a hoot how many level 50s somebody has. There is a world of difference between a level 50 who has PuGd up to 50 experiencing a wide variety of situations and someone who sits in PI shouting "Looking for farms".

Incidentally, they are big green areas often populated with cattle animals and which grow foodstuffs.


 

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Im an Elitist and proud of it, i think my four and a half years of playing and 20 lvl 50s gives me that right.

[/ QUOTE ]Well it shows you like grinding, not sure what else really.

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also shows that he knows 20 combos of powers very well since hes played them all to level 50. Not many of us could actually say that.
Do we have SOME experience? yes. Do we have the experience of a characters lifespan from 1 - 50 of 20 different combos? Large majority of players i'ld say no. So for information on those power combos it'ld be a good idea to talk to him, not for information on grinding as you put it.

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Everyone has a right to be elitist. Or to think they are elite. However, it dosent make them elite, whatever that word means anyway

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We need an elite competition/induction day


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also shows that he knows 20 combos of powers very well since hes played them all to level 50. Not many of us could actually say that.

[/ QUOTE ]Considering how some of the people I know play their characters even having been L50 for years, I would never take that for granted.


 

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also shows that he knows 20 combos of powers very well since hes played them all to level 50. Not many of us could actually say that.

[/ QUOTE ]Considering how some of the people I know play their characters even having been L50 for years, I would never take that for granted.

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Well yes there is that, hell im still playing my two 50s after all this time and love them.
But the point being in that there isnt all that much to learn about your powers once youv hit level 50. The only thing you can really improve on is skill not the actual power. So my point still stands that for power information on a larger scale he'ld be better suited to ask for hints/tips than say someone like me with only 2 level 50s.


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Again damzy, 14 level 50s here... and I suck on most of them.


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