Discussion: Full Powerset Proliferation Revealed

Obsidius · 03-28-2008 11:28 AM

I think you missed the mark on Tanks, Scraps, and Stalkers. I think most Tanks were asking for Electric Armor / Melee. What did they get? Dark Sorry guys, that's -1 in my book.

There's a lot of other cool stuff, fortunately. Mental Manipulation for Blasters? Gadzooks!

Haggard4Life · 03-28-2008 11:28 AM

I'm glad Defenders are getting Cold Domination. I had that on a Corrupter but I never got the armor powers because it didn't fit my villain concept.

Also, I think it's important to remember that the devs have said this is only the "first round" of Powerset Proliferation. So if there's a powerset you wanted to see on a certain AT, it might still show up.

NeoSaturn · 03-28-2008 11:29 AM

I wonder if Dark tank will have the Stealth power or the Stalker auto power?

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ZephyrWind · 03-28-2008 11:30 AM

Wow, the heroes get the uranium mine...the villains get the shaft.

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Amanita · 03-28-2008 11:30 AM

I'm surprised they gave scrappers the fire sets. They will be interesting to see in action, scrapper-side. I've got a fire tank who I enjoy, this might make me consider re-rolling him.

I was kind of hoping for ninjitsu for scrappers though, that would be fun. Or electric armour/melee for scrappers and tanks.
I'm not horribly disappointed though, because I have heard that these are not the only powers that will eventually be ported over- this is just a start. So I'll wait and see.

I'm also hoping brutes get access to broadsword eventually, that is a fun set to play!
And plant controllers? Hella cool!

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Cien_Fuegos · 03-28-2008 11:30 AM

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well at least it's obivous that you guys hate the villains now.

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Zyphoid · 03-28-2008 11:30 AM

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As I've said in other threads, I am VERY unhappy that once again, no punchy sets for scrappers. It's only been asked for since CoH hit beta, I know these things take time.

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At this pont I would even be happy with a band aid one.

Also I agree with many others, I think Red side got a bit of the shaft on this.

I try to stay positive (yes I know I fail at times), but it is frustrating for us to be so vocal about what we want, then feel like it is ignored.

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Obsidius · 03-28-2008 11:31 AM

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well at least it's obivous that you guys hate the villains now.

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I drank your milkshake! Gimme more villain powers for heroes!

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SpaceNut · 03-28-2008 11:31 AM

I love the villain additions! Can't wait to make /storm corrs and MMs, and elec/ corrs! Got plans for a pickaxe brute too! Eh on the new hero sets. I might make an /ice def, or a fire scrapper, but most of my new alts will be villains.

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Reiska · 03-28-2008 11:32 AM

Back in Issue 5 I used to joke about a fire scrapper.

I am SO THERE.

Anti_Product · 03-28-2008 11:33 AM

For the folks saying Villains are being *hated*.. come now.. Really.

Have you thought that maybey.. JUST MAYBEY.. the dev's will listen when you stop posting the *4chan-style* replies? HMM? How likely is it that they will listen when most PVP/Villain flavor posts come off like a screaming child in Wal-Mart?

Please explain in a REASONABLE manner.. why/how they hate villains.

I can see it now.. Plant/Kin trollers.. bbq-scrappers.. Shovel/brutes.. bot/storm MM's.. mmm such sweet chaos.

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Murdok · 03-28-2008 11:34 AM

No em/ scrappers

Magnificence · 03-28-2008 11:34 AM

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If they can't use Ice Melee because of the fury issues.. they WILL toss the armor as well.

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Do you know what Chilling Embrace does? -32% recharge to essentially all critters around you. The logical response is "Well don't take Chilling Embrace!" Except it also imparts a -14% damage debuff. That's a good thing for an armor set, and a better thing for a Defense-based set(Especially with the option of Tough being available so you can get as much resistance and -DMG as possible!). Hibernate is also counterintuitive of Fury, and the sight of a Brute ally cowering in a shell of ice is... less than inspiring.

Shelly · 03-28-2008 11:35 AM

Oh sure, give heroes Thermal heals and Empathy heals - Thermal buffs and Cold Domination buffs. And villains get.... /storm... twice over.

*throws hands up* I give up. Obviously the devs want everyone to play blueside.

anachrodragon · 03-28-2008 11:35 AM

Lots of folks wanted Electric for Tanks and Scrappers, but I don't think Dark and Fire are bad choices. I'm sure they'll turn out fine, and hopefully we'll get Electric in a later issue.

SR for Brutes? I'm not sure anyone wanted that. Hopefully they figure out a way for Ice to work for Brutes in a later issue.

I'm liking Storm for corruptors (which we knew about) and for MMs (which we didn't). The controller and dominator choices will probably work out fine as well, though I'm not fiending to play them or anything. Defenders with Cold are probably a good fit.

Psy blasters still sound beastly.

Anyway, keep up the good work devs. And please please get us more cross-over sets for I13.

Cinder_Viper · 03-28-2008 11:35 AM

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villains got PWNED once again... gg devs

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Rush_Bolt · 03-28-2008 11:35 AM

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Well... some I got, but quite a few were straight out of left field to me.

Neat. I'll have to see how these all play out.

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UnicyclePeon · 03-28-2008 11:36 AM

Storm Masterminds will Rule. Thermal Controllers will Rule. Plant Controllers will rule. Dark Armor Tankers will rule. Dark Melee on Tankers will rule. Ice Blast on Defenders will rule. Earth and Elec on doms will rule. The rest ... meh. However, congrats to all!

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MCG_Warface · 03-28-2008 11:36 AM

Your opinion on ice armor.........not mine or many other brutes. I respectfully disagree. There is this other part of the game called PVP.

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Obsidius · 03-28-2008 11:37 AM

*throws hands up too*

Oh, sorry, I thought we were doing the wave

ShoNuff · 03-28-2008 11:37 AM

friggin sweet can't wait to roll a psychic blaster

GGG247 · 03-28-2008 11:37 AM

First choices for new alts:

Electric/Storm Corruptor
Plant/* Controller
Fire/* Scrapper
Spines/Fire Scrapper

This looks like some fun. I'd better hurry and level up all those WP Tankers and Scrappers I made for I11.

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UberGuy · 03-28-2008 11:38 AM

Totally unsurprised by Fire/ and /Fire for Scrappers. Those wer, IMO, the easiest direct ports most in line with existing Scrapper powersets.

Dark Armor on a Tank is actually potentially incredible in most of PvE. I actually look forward to that.

A Defender with Cold as a primary... my God. I didn't expect that one. And I'm pretty surprised to see Controllers get /Thermal.

I'm sort of on board with folks who say Villains got the shaft in this deal, particularly from a PvP perspective. A lot of people talk about the lack of parity in Hero/Villain powers, and two of the best Villain powersets ported over to Heroes (along with whatever a Psi Blaster primary brings). The reverse is not true, IMO.

I'll be interested to see the actual powersets, but without knowing specifics my thought is I wouldn't touch an Elec/ or /Elec Stalker with a 10' pole, and I say that as someone who enjoys his Stalkers (in PvE no less). Storm for MMs and Corrs is nice in PvE. Not impressed with Elec Blast for Corrs, but I haven't messed with the set in a long time, so maybe it's OK these days.

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JulioThom70 · 03-28-2008 11:39 AM

Have to agree with the feeling that Villain sets that Heroes got pale to what Villains got from Heroes.

I see Cold/Psy/Power Defenders mauling anything and everything Villain side in PvP.

Villain VEATS need to be REALLY good to make up for this.

NumberCruncher · 03-28-2008 11:39 AM

Oh man. Get ready for /Storm MM's. Bots/Storm anyone?

/Thermal Controllers? Should be okay.