48 Month Veteran Reward Unveiled!
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Posted on: 2008-03-04 24:09 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Okay, so out of 8 pets, why are there only 2 different buffs?
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Originally, there were 2 pets: The Faeries. Then someone (may even have been me, I don't remember) brought up the fact that Faeries won't match everyones concepts and so, the Wisps were born. Then, someone suggested the Drones for Tech types and at the last minute the Oscillators were tossed in. All told, a more classic example of Feature Creep you will never find!
So, since there were only two pets originally, there were only 2 powers made. I didn't have time to make 6 more powers to match the new entities.
As for why they are so fragile, let's just say if they were at all "tough" I could exploit them horrendously. So, they are fragile. They CAN be kept alive if you are a ranged AT, but melee types will have a hard time of it.
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All my fault...sorry about that.
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The people who have been here for 48 months have paid MORE over that time than people who have been here for 1, 17, 24, etc. months. So WE'RE paying for the vet rewards. Lord, the feeling of entitlement among some on these boards is just frightening.
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Okay, so out of 8 pets, why are there only 2 different buffs?
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Originally, there were 2 pets: The Faeries. Then someone (may even have been me, I don't remember) brought up the fact that Faeries won't match everyones concepts and so, the Wisps were born. Then, someone suggested the Drones for Tech types and at the last minute the Oscillators were tossed in. All told, a more classic example of Feature Creep you will never find!
So, since there were only two pets originally, there were only 2 powers made. I didn't have time to make 6 more powers to match the new entities.
As for why they are so fragile, let's just say if they were at all "tough" I could exploit them horrendously. So, they are fragile. They CAN be kept alive if you are a ranged AT, but melee types will have a hard time of it.
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All my fault...sorry about that.
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You asked him concentrate on shields, didn't you? If so, no need to apologize. 
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So, since there were only two pets originally, there were only 2 powers made. I didn't have time to make 6 more powers to match the new entities.
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I'm glad you didn't, and hope you won't even if you do get more time. Anything that allows me to choose the way I look without having to sacrifice the way I perform is a win in my book.
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Agreed. And that was the first thought I had when the info was leaked. Faeries? How am I going to make that fit say my robot character? Thanks for the additional aesthetic choices, but keeping the buffs the same. Perfect.
Anyway, otherwise we'd figure out which is best and you'd only see one pet 90% of the time anyway. Kind of like what happened with the vast majority of us taking Sands of Mu vs. Ghost Slaying Axe. 
Sweet! just in time too, I got mine today ;p
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Thanks for the additional aesthetic choices, but keeping the buffs the same. Perfect.
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My sentiment exactly!
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All my fault...sorry about that.
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I think it's GREAT that there are so many to choose from, while at the same time limiting the buffs to basically two flavors.
Having several pets to select from means that they can fit more character concepts (always a good thing). Having limited buffs available means that you don't have to choose between the buff you want and the concept of the pet.
Very, very nicely done.
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My next SuperTeam will be all Fire/Dev Blasters.
48 MONTH VETS ONLY
We'll rely on stacked Smoke Grenade (28% ToHit debuff) and Rec/Def Vet pet buffs (20% Defense) to drop mobs to the base 5% chance to hit us (and our pets). We can go Staminaless too, thanks to the pets. Take Medicine (Aid Other) and Leaping (CJ and Acro) to deal with lucky hits. Assault for more damage. This is gonna be easy.
We'll call the team the Super Reflex Blasters.
Maybe one of these days. I should get them when all the other "been here since CoH started" people do.
Then again, maybe a group of 8 Fire/Fire Tankers with the Dam/Res pets. They'd have nearly capped Damage Resistance to everything, and they'd do huge amounts of AoE damage themselves.
Thugs/Traps Masterminds each with 6 Henchmen, Gang War for 10 more, FF Generator, Acid Mortar, 2 Seeker Drones, non-combat Vet Pet, and Dam/Res Vet Pet. That's 8 players and 176 pets, though granted only 168 of those are targetable. Too bad mobs don't have limits on the number of things they can hit.
FYI, all the auto powers I know of have a 10 second activation period. That means they tic every 10 seconds and give you 10 seconds worth of effect. Even if your pet dies, you have up to 10 seconds of buff left.
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Okay, so out of 8 pets, why are there only 2 different buffs?
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Originally, there were 2 pets: The Faeries. Then someone (may even have been me, I don't remember) brought up the fact that Faeries won't match everyones concepts and so, the Wisps were born. Then, someone suggested the Drones for Tech types and at the last minute the Oscillators were tossed in. All told, a more classic example of Feature Creep you will never find!
So, since there were only two pets originally, there were only 2 powers made. I didn't have time to make 6 more powers to match the new entities.
As for why they are so fragile, let's just say if they were at all "tough" I could exploit them horrendously. So, they are fragile. They CAN be kept alive if you are a ranged AT, but melee types will have a hard time of it.
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All my fault...sorry about that.
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Bab, are you going to let castle attempt steal your guilt?!
On a serious note: its a shame I cant see the future. I picked the 5th column pet with my macer, had I known the next pet (or that there was going to be another pet) was going to accommodate clockwork design but no 5th column designs, I would had picked the clockwork non combat pet instead.
I guess there is no chance to get a mekman added to the list, will there? Also, what about some natural/mutant creations? Like DE monsters? You guys keep doing tech/magic and ignore the entire mutant aspects. 
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As for why they are so fragile, let's just say if they were at all "tough" I could exploit them horrendously. So, they are fragile. They CAN be kept alive if you are a ranged AT, but melee types will have a hard time of it.
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What about make them impossible to heal or buff, with no regeneration, but at least able to take 2 hits at any level?
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Just wondering but my account says
Total Paid Time: 4 Years, 0 Months
Veteran Rewards Time: 4 Years, 3 Months
but i didnt get my reward yet has this happened to anyone else?
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As I recall, the paid time does not include free months from purchased boxes.
I bought CoH and CoV, but not the GvE edition, and my paid time is two months behind my veteran time.
How many packaged products did you purchase?
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never mind i found out why the account was created in june and i thought it was january thought i am getting the 45 month badge on the 8th of this month
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My next SuperTeam will be all Fire/Dev Blasters.
48 MONTH VETS ONLY
We'll rely on stacked Smoke Grenade (28% ToHit debuff) and Rec/Def Vet pet buffs (20% Defense) to drop mobs to the base 5% chance to hit us (and our pets). We can go Staminaless too, thanks to the pets. Take Medicine (Aid Other) and Leaping (CJ and Acro) to deal with lucky hits. Assault for more damage. This is gonna be easy.
We'll call the team the Super Reflex Blasters.
Maybe one of these days. I should get them when all the other "been here since CoH started" people do.
Then again, maybe a group of 8 Fire/Fire Tankers with the Dam/Res pets. They'd have nearly capped Damage Resistance to everything, and they'd do huge amounts of AoE damage themselves.
Thugs/Traps Masterminds each with 6 Henchmen, Gang War for 10 more, FF Generator, Acid Mortar, 2 Seeker Drones, non-combat Vet Pet, and Dam/Res Vet Pet. That's 8 players and 176 pets, though granted only 168 of those are targetable. Too bad mobs don't have limits on the number of things they can hit.
FYI, all the auto powers I know of have a 10 second activation period. That means they tic every 10 seconds and give you 10 seconds worth of effect. Even if your pet dies, you have up to 10 seconds of buff left.
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Bab, are you going to let castle attempt steal your guilt?!
On a serious note: its a shame I cant see the future. I picked the 5th column pet with my macer, had I known the next pet (or that there was going to be another pet) was going to accommodate clockwork design but no 5th column designs, I would had picked the clockwork non combat pet instead.
I guess there is no chance to get a mekman added to the list, will there? Also, what about some natural/mutant creations? Like DE monsters? You guys keep doing tech/magic and ignore the entire mutant aspects.
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Take the red drone one or the red whisp. These are obviously external, so can fit the *thematics* of your characters history in any shape or form.
Still here, even after all this time!
I still think they can be made a bit stronger without worry of PVP exploits ( because you know that's what castle is worried about).
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Okay, so out of 8 pets, why are there only 2 different buffs?
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Originally, there were 2 pets: The Faeries. Then someone (may even have been me, I don't remember) brought up the fact that Faeries won't match everyones concepts and so, the Wisps were born. Then, someone suggested the Drones for Tech types and at the last minute the Oscillators were tossed in. All told, a more classic example of Feature Creep you will never find!
So, since there were only two pets originally, there were only 2 powers made. I didn't have time to make 6 more powers to match the new entities.
As for why they are so fragile, let's just say if they were at all "tough" I could exploit them horrendously. So, they are fragile. They CAN be kept alive if you are a ranged AT, but melee types will have a hard time of it.
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All my fault...sorry about that.
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...you.... don't ...have ...time to make...more ... than ... 2? Do you hand etch the bits on the drive?!
What is your pipeline like. Everytime I hear this kind of thing, all I can picture is that you people have to wrestle a bear to get to your desk, and then the desk is like a Mimic that tries to eat you while you type.
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The question is, how much "vet reward time" do you have listed in your account, and does that match up with how far ahead are you paid? Mine does.
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My billing is due in 2 weeks, so I cant make a good reply for you, sorry.
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I still think they can be made a bit stronger without worry of PVP exploits ( because you know that's what castle is worried about).
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Everything in this game is about balance (or at least tries to be).
If they made these pets less fragile in any way they would likely reduce the buffs they provide too.
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[ All told, a more classic example of Feature Creep you will never find!
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Given that were talking about pets, shouldn't that be Creature Creep? 
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As for why they are so fragile, let's just say if they were at all "tough" I could exploit them horrendously. So, they are fragile. They CAN be kept alive if you are a ranged AT, but melee tpes will have a hard time of it.
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This is good design how? Why the favoritism?
Moreover, if they were unkillable like the cosmetic pets,m how would they be exploitable?
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Sweet! just in time too, I got mine today ;p
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Yup can't wait... these will be so cool in the beginning of May when I get...
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Wait... WHAT?!? 
How. The. H E x2 hockey-sticks?!? 
HAX!!! 
I know you signed up a few weeks after I did. I introduced you to this game! DAMN YOU AND YOUR HAX EYES!!!
I hate you.
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On a serious note: its a shame I cant see the future. I picked the 5th column pet with my macer, had I known the next pet (or that there was going to be another pet) was going to accommodate clockwork design but no 5th column designs, I would had picked the clockwork non combat pet instead.
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I think that they were going for hovering pets, and I don't think there's an appropriate 5th model for that. The Power Drone should do for a mechanical model at least. I'll probably pick it for my alts that have the clockwork pet anyway since it'll probably be less intrusive.
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I still think they can be made a bit stronger without worry of PVP exploits ( because you know that's what castle is worried about).
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Everything in this game is about balance (or at least tries to be).
If they made these pets less fragile in any way they would likely reduce the buffs they provide too.
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Either the buffs are overpowered to be practically on all the time for a back row character, or they arent overpowered to be on all the time for a front row character.
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I still think they can be made a bit stronger without worry of PVP exploits ( because you know that's what castle is worried about).
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Everything in this game is about balance (or at least tries to be).
If they made these pets less fragile in any way they would likely reduce the buffs they provide too.
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Either the buffs are overpowered to be practically on all the time for a back row character, or they arent overpowered to be on all the time for a front row character.
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Actually if I had to guess the "exploitable" nature Castle is talking about is the fact that these buffs are apparently team oriented. An unkillable team buff would be pretty powerful, obviously too powerful as far as the Devs are concerned. It'd almost be like a Vet based variant of a zero END cost Leadership pool power.
Once again balance is key.
My bet is if they made these pets unkillable they'd make the buffs NON-team oriented at the very least.
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Why shouldn't I recieve whatever everyone else gets.
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(1) Not "everyone else" gets it. Only the 48 month vets do.
(2) You will get it. You'll get it when you're a 48 month vet.
(3) Sentences that are questions typically end with a Question Mark.
Duh.
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