48 Month Veteran Reward Unveiled!
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1981firebird,
Posted on: 2008-03-04 24:09 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Okay, so out of 8 pets, why are there only 2 different buffs?
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Originally, there were 2 pets: The Faeries. Then someone (may even have been me, I don't remember) brought up the fact that Faeries won't match everyones concepts and so, the Wisps were born. Then, someone suggested the Drones for Tech types and at the last minute the Oscillators were tossed in. All told, a more classic example of Feature Creep you will never find!
So, since there were only two pets originally, there were only 2 powers made. I didn't have time to make 6 more powers to match the new entities.
As for why they are so fragile, let's just say if they were at all "tough" I could exploit them horrendously. So, they are fragile. They CAN be kept alive if you are a ranged AT, but melee types will have a hard time of it.
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Perhaps you can extend the range at which they follow?
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They CAN be kept alive if you are a ranged AT, but melee types will have a hard time of it.
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I would love to see this fixed a bit. Basically making them have more defense to melee.......and less to ranged--------- OR you simply make them stay a little farther away.........i.e. out of the large mass of mobs on top of my melee toon...........evening them out for all.
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I read through the thread a bit.
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(+Rec, +Def team buff)
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Look like the +Rec is for the player while the +Def is for the team? That's the way it strikes me.
Also the 10 hit points thing looks like it will make it more durable at low lvls and getting less durable with each lvl. But the flipside is...would the buff be less useful at lower lvls? I don't know the science on that.
Looks cosmetic....but I like cosmetic things. 
My only worry is losing my cool pet .0000001 seconds after casting it at lvl 50 when a slight breeze blew on it. That would get so old after a while I wouldn't bother.
I noticed a couple of people talking about how they checked their time. I went to my account and saw nothing like that. It says when the account(s) were created, but nothing about "time played" or anything.
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What I honestly think NCSoft should do is allow others to buy time. If you want to buy an extra series of months, you should be able to. This would be good for NCSoft and good for the players as it would give them what they want if they're willing to pay for it. The only ones I can see having a problem with this would be those who want to see their vet rewards as a special status symbol.
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What if you want to buy an extra series of months but you can't afford to?
Maybe a given person can afford to pay the monthly fee but nothing extra.
How is this "pay-extra-for" Awards system fair to that person?
Beyond that the -only- problem I have with this idea would be this would make these "pay-extra-for" Awards not Veteran Awards. There's nothing wrong with "pay-extra-for" Awards in theory but if the Devs had wanted to give us those that's what we would've gotten in the first place.
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Agreed, it wouldn't be fair to the folks who are poor but honestly its not that hard to save $12-15 for most people. Maybe you're not buying everything at once but its much better for most than the "I can never get things at the same time" situation they're in now.
I find it kind of funny that one of the common responses to vet rewards is that the game will be short lived!! Really?? People wouldnt get all worked up about it if they didnt like the game! If the game is good then it will continue on. CoX has a future.
The vet rewards arent anything that shifts the balance of the game. It is simply a matter of haves and have nots. Period. If you like the game, play the game, if not getting your vet rewards NOW NOW NOW is really going to ruin your experience then that is, I am sorry to say, unfortunate for you. I havent been playing that long so I dont have all the rewards yet. When they announce the next vet reward it does not anger me that I wont get it right away. I look forward to the day when I can get it and I am pretty sure the game will still be here to allow me to earn them!!
Warlord: You are looking at a man that can run you through with this sword without batting an eye.
Monk: You are looking at a man who can be run through with that sword without batting an eye.
--old Korean folk tale
This makes me also wonder about the folks who cant wait and simply want to BUY things instead of earn them like everyone else, are these the same people that use the gold farmers?? Somebody has to be using them or they would simply go away.
Warlord: You are looking at a man that can run you through with this sword without batting an eye.
Monk: You are looking at a man who can be run through with that sword without batting an eye.
--old Korean folk tale
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Words like "ungrateful" and "entitled" come to mind.
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Words like "whiney" and "whinger" come to mind.
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Just checked at Play NC. It sez " Veteran Rewards Time: 4 Years, 0 Months" but also sez " Total Paid Time: 3 Years, 10 Months "
So should I have it or not?
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You should. I'm faced with the same thing, but in the FAQs it clearly says that Vet Rewards are calculated from when you first created your account.
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Just checked at Play NC. It sez " Veteran Rewards Time: 4 Years, 0 Months" but also sez " Total Paid Time: 3 Years, 10 Months "
So should I have it or not?
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You should. I'm faced with the same thing, but in the FAQs it clearly says that Vet Rewards are calculated from when you first created your account.
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It goes by vet reward time, i too had some free time on my account from the start up code and subsequent upgrades, but Vet Time is the decider since that starts from account creation
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Just checked at Play NC. It sez " Veteran Rewards Time: 4 Years, 0 Months" but also sez " Total Paid Time: 3 Years, 10 Months "
So should I have it or not?
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You should. I'm faced with the same thing, but in the FAQs it clearly says that Vet Rewards are calculated from when you first created your account.
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It goes by vet reward time, i too had some free time on my account from the start up code and subsequent upgrades, but Vet Time is the decider since that starts from account creation
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Unfortunately, the 'system' isn't quite working as it should be. I should be anticipating my 39 month reward soon, but at the moment haven't even received my 36 month. Somewhat annoying.
Additionally, someone before mentioned Time Cards... they should go towards time accrued too.
Veteran Rewards FAQs
yea time cards SHOULD work. If you are paying to keep your account active then it shouldnt matter what form payment takes. It is time accrued on account.
Warlord: You are looking at a man that can run you through with this sword without batting an eye.
Monk: You are looking at a man who can be run through with that sword without batting an eye.
--old Korean folk tale
Actually the FAQs state that 'activity' has absolutely nothing to do with it. And that is pointed out several times. It's from when the account was created - nothing more, nothing less.
Something definitely is off.
I signed up around Oct 7, '07, using GvE and used the included free month code, referred my husband and kids using the referral system, which added further free time to my account.
I didn't get my 3 mo reward until Jan 15-ish or so, about a week later than I expected. My kids and husband, on the other hand, all of whom signed up later than I did, got their vet rewards the week that I should have gotten mine.
It's a trivial difference, but it makes me wonder exactly how it's calculated.
The actual awarding of them is buggy. Some people actually get theirs early, others get them late. There's no discernible pattern of which I'm aware.
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
Err... sorry Wavicle, but that's a gross over-simplification. This isn't a simple bug. A 3 month difference, between when an account page states the accumulated time in Veteran awards is - and when it will be awarded is not a 'bug'.
Yes, it is.
Anything that is not 'Working As Intended' is a 'Bug' by definition.
Anything.
'Bug' implies nothing about severity, importance, noticeability, or anything.
What would YOU call it? An error? A mistake? A problem? An unexplained phenomenon?
It's a bug. A very complicated, multifaceted bug. Perhaps even multiple bugs, interacting in strange, buggy ways.
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
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Actually the FAQs state that 'activity' has absolutely nothing to do with it. And that is pointed out several times. It's from when the account was created - nothing more, nothing less.
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This makes no sense. It's not just about when your account was created, it's about how many months you have been subscribed. If I created an account way back when the game first came out, but I canceled my account 2 months in, and I restarted my account right now, I would not have even ONE Vets Reward, because I only have accrued 2 months time.
What the FAQ refers to as 'activity' is actual playing. What the poster above means when he says 'keep my account active' is that he will continue to pay for it.
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
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Just checked at Play NC. It sez " Veteran Rewards Time: 4 Years, 0 Months" but also sez " Total Paid Time: 3 Years, 10 Months "
So should I have it or not?
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You should. I'm faced with the same thing, but in the FAQs it clearly says that Vet Rewards are calculated from when you first created your account.
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It goes by vet reward time, i too had some free time on my account from the start up code and subsequent upgrades, but Vet Time is the decider since that starts from account creation
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Unfortunately, the 'system' isn't quite working as it should be. I should be anticipating my 39 month reward soon, but at the moment haven't even received my 36 month. Somewhat annoying.
Additionally, someone before mentioned Time Cards... they should go towards time accrued too.
Veteran Rewards FAQs
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For what it's worth I've always had the other new vet rewards on the day they rolled out. Used to be ppl showed up to Atlas when the new rewards rolled out to show of their vet status. For me it was my way of saying "Hey I might only me of moderate skill, but at least I'm persistent 
. Or at perhaps It just sez I've had no life for longer then most 
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Anyway I still have not seen the new one yes, I suppose I'm waiting for some time in late April then.
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I still dont see why everyone gets their panties in such a twist about the vet rewards. They arent game breaking or tip the balance of one toon versus another.
I regard them as any other perk that must be earned in the game. Sure I would love to have Atlas medallion, portal jockey, etc. etc. on a lvl one toon but guess what, those things must be earned thru game play.
Kind of makes vet rewards the easiest thing to earn as a player in this game, all you have to do is pay and play!
Warlord: You are looking at a man that can run you through with this sword without batting an eye.
Monk: You are looking at a man who can be run through with that sword without batting an eye.
--old Korean folk tale
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For what it's worth I've always had the other new vet rewards on the day they rolled out. Used to be ppl showed up to Atlas when the new rewards rolled out to show of their vet status. For me it was my way of saying "Hey I might only me of moderate skill, but at least I'm persistent . Or at perhaps It just sez I've had no life for longer then most .
Anyway I still have not seen the new one yes, I suppose I'm waiting for some time in late April then.
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Same here. I didn't have it either, even though I used to be one of those people that got their rewards early.
I even /bugged it when I got them too soon.
Maybe they're on their way to fixing the early release thing.
Okay, I like the Veteran Badges and the Awards are cool, too.
Now, I'm not 100% convinced that the game needs yet more fiddlly-bit Pets floating around, but whatever.
So here's my constructive suggestion for future Veteran Awards. People, tell me what ya think:
50 Months (Yes, I know, it's not a full year or billable quarter, but it's a better number than "51"): Choice of a Toggle Graphic separate from, but based on, your chosen Travel Power:
None (uses Sprint speed, available to any toon): Motorcycle
Speed: Jetbike (as a motorcycle, but hovers a foot over the ground like a Star Wars Speederbike).
Leaping: Sticky Feet (toon sticks to vertical or overhead surfaces until they move again; any non-Jump move and they fall off).
Teleportation: Wormhole effect; a visible "tube" of light extending a few yards from the toon. The Destination Point is chosen on the Zone map and can be anywhere in the Zone.
Flight (Like the Blackwand and Nemesis Staff, this would have two versions; one for Tech/Sci/Natural and one for Mutation/Magic):
Tech: Permanent Rocket Pack in two new styles, one high tech, one retro (no pun intended)
Arcane: Winged horse. Yes, a winged horse.
Costume Suggestions for Veteran Award 50:
Gladiator armors, especially helmets, breastplates, greaves, bracers, etc.
Internal Lighting Auras. For example, a toon with the Circuit or Magic Patterns could have those specific costume elements illuminated as if from within.
"White-Eye" masks. The "Bonehead" mask option could be easily modified to do this; just lose the nose hole and make the eyes subject to secondary color choice modification.
Thicker Tails: The Reptile Tail especially is awfully wimpy.
More variation in Monstrous Heads. Wolf heads than can wear hats, Dragon heads that can wear helmets, etc.
These are just off the top of my head, but the Travel Power Veteran Awards are the main thing, and those I put a lot of thought into.
And now, the World's Most Unnecessary Question To Ask on a Public Forum:
What does everyone else think?
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Actually the FAQs state that 'activity' has absolutely nothing to do with it. And that is pointed out several times. It's from when the account was created - nothing more, nothing less.
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This makes no sense. It's not just about when your account was created, it's about how many months you have been subscribed. If I created an account way back when the game first came out, but I canceled my account 2 months in, and I restarted my account right now, I would not have even ONE Vets Reward, because I only have accrued 2 months time.
What the FAQ refers to as 'activity' is actual playing. What the poster above means when he says 'keep my account active' is that he will continue to pay for it.
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Vet rewards are calculated by paid time, counting "free" months (from boxed sets etc) as paid time, but not counting for paid time that hasn't occurred yet (so if you just paid for 3 months this month that only counts as 1 mo today, another next mo and yet another 2 mo from now.
However, there is a bug that introduces an unknown variable into this equation, with some people getting the rewards early (in some cases over a month) and some getting them late. The devs have not been able to get this bug fixed and so details on vet rewards often come out before any official notice.
Hope that clears everything up.
Very very nice, I always wanted to have a targetting drone follow me around on technoligical alts other than those of the maligned /devices type and I think wisps are the coolest Mobs in croatoa. Too bad as things stand I'll never ever get a chance to use em, the Boxing shorts and probably the veteran range powers!!!
If so much time is going to be spent on costumes that will only end up being commandeered by the vet system and if so much attention is going to be put on additions to that content time lock gimmick there really, really needs to be a per alt system of vet reward choices.
Atleast that way there may still be stuff you want but don't have access to but everything you do have is something you want. As Opposed to the mismash of stuff you may want on certain alts and stuff you will never want for any alt.
The Trenchcoat? Isn't . I only have one character out of 24+ current alts and counless alts who have been deleted who could use a jacket with a cape attached at the back. Regardless of that fact the Trenchcoat still takes up space as useless filler in my list of rewards.
***All I am saying is before more time and work goes into Vet rewards and more costume pieces get commandered by the vet reward gimmick Please Please Please let us choose which rewards we want preferebly on a per alt basis.
I appologize for the rant it wasn't intended to be so large.
Here is your big opertunity to fix all the worthless POS Vet Rewards from 45 months to 3 months.
What are ya gonna give out? Cuz except for Respecs, Nem Rod/Black Wand and Sands of Mu.. The rest were pretty much worthless..
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Thugs/Traps Masterminds each with 6 Henchmen, Gang War for 10 more, FF Generator, Acid Mortar, 2 Seeker Drones, non-combat Vet Pet, and Dam/Res Vet Pet. That's 8 players and 176 pets, though granted only 168 of those are targetable. Too bad mobs don't have limits on the number of things they can hit.
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Sweet Jebus I wanna see screen shots of such a door mission!
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I think the screen shot would crash my system much less being ON such a team. Jumpin jehosavat!