Official Thread: Good Vs. Evil Edition
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Posted on: 2006-09-18 10:27 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Will we be seeing these items as apart of the Veteran Rewards system after I8 launch or as future rewards?
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I dont see them giving away for free what they're trying to sell for money. Thats not exactly smart marketing.
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Well, I thought there could be a chance to "reward" people who have been playing for almost 3 years instead of guaging them. It seems like this is the perfect thing to introduce into a rewards system, but you're right, why give something away when you can charge for it?
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<.< well..first of all an exact explination of the Pocket-D teleport power is would be nice.. I've heard several things, that it lets you tp around PD, that it acts like a base teleporter and sends you TO PD, that is tps you into the tiki room... an exact answer would be nice =^_^=
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http://uk.cityofheroes.com/game-guide/feature-updates/
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^_^ thanks, that answered half of the question, >.> we still don't know where its usuable though, only pocket-D? or can it be used anywhere to go to pocket-D?
o.o and it begs the asking of another question, why do the European players not only get a much nicer box than us, but also more info on the contents?
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If it's $30 .. I'll probably get it. You basically pay $5 for a map and an updated DVD, and all the misc crap. Or maybe it's time for that second account ... so I get 1 online code AND 1 box .. :P
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Well, I thought there could be a chance to "reward" people who have been playing for almost 3 years instead of guaging them. It seems like this is the perfect thing to introduce into a rewards system, but you're right, why give something away when you can charge for it?
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Wow... I mean really... Wow. They intend to give a veteran rewards system, but because they want newer people to have a chance to get this stuff they're going to charge a measly ten bucks for it and your complaining because "You've already paid your dues"... Well I for one will happily pay my ten dollars in addition to accepting my 2.5 years worth of veteran rewards for playing since the game started. I certainly don't mind whatsoever. Thank you for your hard work Devs in making things I would actually like to pay money for. =)
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<.< well..first of all an exact explination of the Pocket-D teleport power is would be nice.. I've heard several things, that it lets you tp around PD, that it acts like a base teleporter and sends you TO PD, that is tps you into the tiki room... an exact answer would be nice =^_^=
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http://uk.cityofheroes.com/game-guide/feature-updates/
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^_^ thanks, that answered half of the question, >.> we still don't know where its usuable though, only pocket-D? or can it be used anywhere to go to pocket-D?
o.o and it begs the asking of another question, why do the European players not only get a much nicer box than us, but also more info on the contents?
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I dunno... Do the devs favor the Europeans? >.> <.< *Gets in jet headed for Europe* Hey devs, I'm, uh, sorta European! Give me ice cream! 
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Can you tell us if the jetpack will remain visible or will it vanish when the 30 seconds is up. Obviously the power benefit would vanish after the 30 seconds but.. just hoping there's a way to keep it visible for those characters who want that option for their costume.
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From a powers/animation standpoint, the backpack geometry fades away after a period of non-use. I do not believe the geometry is available as a 'Cape' option so it is always present, though. I'm not Jay, though, so I could certainly be wrong! 
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But would it be possible to put a backpack in as a cape option? I know a few tech-heroes that would really like this.
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Will GvE's VIP card unlock the tiki room in the Pocket D? If so, will there be another way to get in, such as by giving the badge out as a veteran reward, too?
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The VIP Teleport Card teleports you directly to the Tiki Room. This much was confirmed on the UK site.
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Why are the Brits getting info before us?
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Can you tell us if the jetpack will remain visible or will it vanish when the 30 seconds is up. Obviously the power benefit would vanish after the 30 seconds but.. just hoping there's a way to keep it visible for those characters who want that option for their costume.
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From a powers/animation standpoint, the backpack geometry fades away after a period of non-use. I do not believe the geometry is available as a 'Cape' option so it is always present, though. I'm not Jay, though, so I could certainly be wrong!
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But would it be possible to put a backpack in as a cape option? I know a few tech-heroes that would really like this.
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Ditto... wait, I'm repeating myself here.
So... lets go ask Jay:
Jay, buddy, is it an option treated like a cape or will it be a darn good looking peice of art we would love to have on all the time and thus denied the pleasure of consistency? Inconsistent costume peices are annoying 
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Well, I thought there could be a chance to "reward" people who have been playing for almost 3 years instead of guaging them. It seems like this is the perfect thing to introduce into a rewards system, but you're right, why give something away when you can charge for it?
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Wow... I mean really... Wow. They intend to give a veteran rewards system, but because they want newer people to have a chance to get this stuff they're going to charge a measly ten bucks for it and your complaining because "You've already paid your dues"... Well I for one will happily pay my ten dollars in addition to accepting my 2.5 years worth of veteran rewards for playing since the game started. I certainly don't mind whatsoever. Thank you for your hard work Devs in making things I would actually like to pay money for. =)
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Well said and Totally! 
Sign It : http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
/throws down 10 bucks on a debit card
This IS account wide, right? >_>
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Will GvE's VIP card unlock the tiki room in the Pocket D? If so, will there be another way to get in, such as by giving the badge out as a veteran reward, too?
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The VIP Teleport Card teleports you directly to the Tiki Room. This much was confirmed on the UK site.
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Why are the Brits getting info before us?
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Because we're so sexy, so Jay puts in a good word for us 
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The in-game items costs 9.99. You will not lose any of your current in-game items - it doesn't erase your Hero Gear Kit purchase, for example.
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Might you eventually release the in-games items from the Hero Gear Kit as a stand alone purchase also? Maybe even as a combo in-game only purchase with this offer? 
Consider my $10 yours. Now I just gotta figure out how to use this nifty jetpack Hmm...
1. mayhem rocketpack
2. 30 seconds of +200% flight speed
3. ???
4. Profit!
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Well, I thought there could be a chance to "reward" people who have been playing for almost 3 years instead of guaging them. It seems like this is the perfect thing to introduce into a rewards system, but you're right, why give something away when you can charge for it?
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Wow... I mean really... Wow. They intend to give a veteran rewards system, but because they want newer people to have a chance to get this stuff they're going to charge a measly ten bucks for it and your complaining because "You've already paid your dues"... Well I for one will happily pay my ten dollars in addition to accepting my 2.5 years worth of veteran rewards for playing since the game started. I certainly don't mind whatsoever. Thank you for your hard work Devs in making things I would actually like to pay money for. =)
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Comparing "Reward A" to "Product A" isn't really valid anyhow. They're two different things with two different perks.
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/throws down 10 bucks on a debit card
This IS account wide, right? >_>
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Correct, just like any Collector's Edition, etc. All your characters will have access to the in-game stuff.
Do we get a month of gameplay if we buy the box and already have a Subscription? Like we did with the DvD CoH?
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Will we be seeing these items as apart of the Veteran Rewards system after I8 launch or as future rewards?
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I dont see them giving away for free what they're trying to sell for money. Thats not exactly smart marketing.
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Well, I thought there could be a chance to "reward" people who have been playing for almost 3 years instead of guaging them. It seems like this is the perfect thing to introduce into a rewards system, but you're right, why give something away when you can charge for it?
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I believe the word you're looking for is "gouge". Which would be a childish, over-entitled sort of description to use.
They have a veteran rewards system, which will reward long term subscribers. However, it doesn't make sense to give away for free what people are willing to pay for, and it doesn't make sense to replace other possible veteran rewards with something that anyone who wants it can buy for the cost of a few cups of coffee. Hell, I haven't been inside a Starbucks lately, $9.99 could be the cost of a small coffee there by now I guess.
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Well, I thought there could be a chance to "reward" people who have been playing for almost 3 years instead of guaging them. It seems like this is the perfect thing to introduce into a rewards system, but you're right, why give something away when you can charge for it?
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Wow... I mean really... Wow. They intend to give a veteran rewards system, but because they want newer people to have a chance to get this stuff they're going to charge a measly ten bucks for it and your complaining because "You've already paid your dues"... Well I for one will happily pay my ten dollars in addition to accepting my 2.5 years worth of veteran rewards for playing since the game started. I certainly don't mind whatsoever. Thank you for your hard work Devs in making things I would actually like to pay money for. =)
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Well, I can at least see where Jeffrey is coming from. It would have been a nice opportunity to actually make good in a substantial manner on the concept of veteran rewards. Of course from a marketing standpoint it makes more sense to try to sell it, but I don't understand why we as consumers should be cheering them on for charging us for that which we'd have certainly appreciated receiving for free.
I seriously do not understand the MMO-community mentality that companies are entitled to or at least deserve customers cheerleading their efforts to maximise profits and defend them with great vigour when another customer expresses displeasure.
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Will GvE's VIP card unlock the tiki room in the Pocket D? If so, will there be another way to get in, such as by giving the badge out as a veteran reward, too?
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The VIP Teleport Card teleports you directly to the Tiki Room. This much was confirmed on the UK site.
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Why are the Brits getting info before us?
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Because they have Bridger... and we have Cricket...
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I actually agree with Jeffrey. It would have been a nice opportunity to actually make good in a substantial manner on the concept of veteran rewards. Of course from a marketing standpoint it makes more sense to try to sell it, but I don't understand why we as consumers should be cheering them on for charging us for that which we'd have certainly appreciated receiving for free.
I seriously do not understand the MMO-community mentality that companies are entitled to or at least deserve customers cheerleading their efforts to maximise profits and defend them with great vigour when another customer expresses displeasure.
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Have you taken into account what would happen if they DID use the veteran rewards system to give out things from special editions? What would the people who already have them say? "Oh boy, this month I get prestige power slide... again!"
It would be the cheap way out on the veteran rewards. They should be unique things, not just a means for people to get things for free that others paid for.
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Well, I thought there could be a chance to "reward" people who have been playing for almost 3 years instead of guaging them. It seems like this is the perfect thing to introduce into a rewards system, but you're right, why give something away when you can charge for it?
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Wow... I mean really... Wow. They intend to give a veteran rewards system, but because they want newer people to have a chance to get this stuff they're going to charge a measly ten bucks for it and your complaining because "You've already paid your dues"... Well I for one will happily pay my ten dollars in addition to accepting my 2.5 years worth of veteran rewards for playing since the game started. I certainly don't mind whatsoever. Thank you for your hard work Devs in making things I would actually like to pay money for. =)
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Well, I can at least see where Jeffrey is coming from. It would have been a nice opportunity to actually make good in a substantial manner on the concept of veteran rewards. Of course from a marketing standpoint it makes more sense to try to sell it, but I don't understand why we as consumers should be cheering them on for charging us for that which we'd have certainly appreciated receiving for free.
I seriously do not understand the MMO-community mentality that companies are entitled to or at least deserve customers cheerleading their efforts to maximise profits and defend them with great vigour when another customer expresses displeasure.
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1.)This $9.99 Upgrade is $40.00 cheaper than the boxed Expansion we were originally planning on shelling out for.
2.)Since alot of us plan on getting the upgrade plus the veteren's rewards, we would like them to be different and not redundant.
3.) While we may like things for free, companies won't spend as much money developing freebies as they will items they will profit from. $9.99 is a small price to pay to get features that would have most likely not existed otherwise.
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Will GvE's VIP card unlock the tiki room in the Pocket D? If so, will there be another way to get in, such as by giving the badge out as a veteran reward, too?
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The VIP Teleport Card teleports you directly to the Tiki Room. This much was confirmed on the UK site.
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Why are the Brits getting info before us?
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Because they have Bridger... and we have Cricket...
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I think they keep forgetting to tell Bridger he's not supposed to be telling secrets.
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Will GvE's VIP card unlock the tiki room in the Pocket D? If so, will there be another way to get in, such as by giving the badge out as a veteran reward, too?
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The VIP Teleport Card teleports you directly to the Tiki Room. This much was confirmed on the UK site.
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Why are the Brits getting info before us?
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Time zones. Bridger posts stuff over there during normal, daytime hours, which happen to be... maybe six hours or so ahead of us.
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Will GvE's VIP card unlock the tiki room in the Pocket D? If so, will there be another way to get in, such as by giving the badge out as a veteran reward, too?
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The VIP Teleport Card teleports you directly to the Tiki Room. This much was confirmed on the UK site.
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Why are the Brits getting info before us?
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Time zones. Bridger posts stuff over there during normal, daytime hours, which happen to be... maybe six hours or so ahead of us.
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Also, they have Dr. Who on their side. Depending on Time zone, UK is 8-4 hours ahead of North America.
Heroes
Dysmal
Lumynous
Sam Steele
Pluck
Wile
Slagheap
Pressure Wave
Rhiannon Bel
Verified
Stellaric
Syd Mallorn
Villains
Jotunheim Skald
Saer Maen
Jen Corbae
Illuminance
Venator Arawn
Taiga Dryad
Tarranos
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<.< well..first of all an exact explination of the Pocket-D teleport power is would be nice.. I've heard several things, that it lets you tp around PD, that it acts like a base teleporter and sends you TO PD, that is tps you into the tiki room... an exact answer would be nice =^_^=
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http://uk.cityofheroes.com/game-guide/feature-updates/
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VIP Card Teleport Power
This VIP pass will teleport you directly to the Tiki Lounge, an exclusive VIP only area of Pocket D.
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