Dev Response - Badges
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Clarification - Monsters in TF's do not count towards the badges for those monsters (Babbage for ex). It has been this way for some time.
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Not true tho - I got the Babbage badge doing Synapse last week.
Monsters that spawn in taskforces do not give badges. But Giant Monsters that spawn in taskforces do. Babbage for example spawns outside in skyway during the synapse tf is a giant monster and does give the badge. Jurrasik which spawns as a monster in the numina taskforce does not give the badge since they added giant monsters to the game. (though you could petition it for a short while then they said no more).
So to repeat Giant Monster gives you badge but monster posers give no badge even though they may swing a mean chevy.
-RedRider
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WHAT??? I know Jurassic doesn't count, but when did they drop Babbage's badge?
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Babbage never gave a badge in the Synapse TF.
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Tell that to my 3 50s who got the badge from Babbage in the TF...
I have to add my voice to the list of people somewhat annoyed that I do not get badges for any of the TFs done before I5.
Yes, most of the Task Forces are fun and interesting, but getting groups together to do the Shadow Shard TFs are more time consuming and difficult than actually running them. I assume this was done to lighten the load on the support team, since they are usually bombarded for the first few weeks after an Issue hits live.
However, once that "crunch" passes, it would be a very nice move if they went back and datamined at that point, so that those of us who went hopping around the Shard to save Faathim didn't have to do it again to get their badge.
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Clarification - Monsters in TF's do not count towards the badges for those monsters (Adamastor or Jurrassic for ex). It has been this way for some time.
Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.
I know - it stinks - I'm sorry about that.
**edited to read correctly - note on top of all that - Babbage that is in the TF will give you the badge - IF your group does the most damage to it - if someone helps you defeat Babbage - you may not get it if your team does not do the majority of the damage**
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Quoting CuppaJo's edited post to make sure it gets seen. She's only talking about Jurassik (she also mentions Adamastor but that's not a TF).
I still think it's a stingy decision that is completely unwarranted, but it's the unwarranted stingy decision that was made in the past, not a new unwarranted stingy decision.
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In anticipation of this I have logs/screenshots of all AVs for the TFs.
I will be getting those badges come hell or high water .
A pretty lame move though considering someone rumoured that prestige would be datamined (Something we never expected we would need) yet TFs won't be (something that we always expected we would be rewarded for).
Maybe even if you changed the TFs like you said you might, then it would make more sense....
Maybe this is a way to try and get people into the SS again now, with it's new facelift....
Who knows, I still say it is lame
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Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.
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Why not? Data mining was done for each issue until now? Why the change in policy?
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Clarification - Monsters in TF's do not count towards the badges for those monsters (Babbage for ex). It has been this way for some time.
Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.
I know - it stinks - I'm sorry about that.
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Best response. Ever.
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Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.
I know - it stinks - I'm sorry about that.
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Yeah, it stinks...like a 3 day old corpse in the sun. I really don't mind doing the last 3 Shadow shard tf's again, but QUATERFIELD!? Come on! Throw us a bone here! I spent 12-15 hour with nubs on that one and a crapload of debt to boot. At least meet us half way here, give us the Quaterfield badge. And there was absolutely nothing exciting about the last mission for that TF (ie AV, special objective, etc..). Please dont do this.
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Clarification - Monsters in TF's do not count towards the badges for those monsters (Adamastor or Jurrassic for ex). It has been this way for some time.
Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.
I know - it stinks - I'm sorry about that.
**edited to read correctly - note on top of all that - Babbage that is in the TF will give you the badge - IF your group does the most damage to it - if someone helps you defeat Babbage - you may not get it if your team does not do the majority of the damage**
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First you nerf us to hell then you make us do everything all over again, how nice ....Im starting to get fed up with this bullcrap!
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NO data mining?! Thats crazy - you're telling me I have to do all four FBZ TF's all over again to get the badges? Thats nuts! I'm guessing that means no badge for the Calvin Scott TF as well - that stinks - that just really stinks.
What a minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This does not make any sense. Why in the hell do I have the Shard TF badges on test then if datamining could not be done!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I'm aware that you are only the messanger Cuppa, but the devs need to understand how much they just hacked everyone off. Of all the things they are doing to us in Issue 5, they could have ATLEAST given us the freaking badges for the Shard TFs.
This is by far one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen since I started playing this game.
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@Capt Omega
Some people asked me to post this as well -
You will not be able to /petition to get these badges if you completed the TF before I5. So please do not flood the GMs with /petitions trying to get the badges. They can NOT award them.
You know, as hurt as I have been over the performance and command level descisions as of late, this really takes the cake.
Most badges are nothing but time takers, and serve no purpose other than to make players wait. Taskforces take several hours for no other purpose than to make them longer so more people cannot complete them.
Monster Badges - Could have a designated spawn, where you complete a set of tasks for a zone, and your team gets the monster spawn - Inside of a door mission. Couldn't do that though, that's too easy. That lets too many people get badges.
Monsters spawning regularly to give people badges? Oh can't be that catering to the public. You can't give us what WE want now can you?
Character Badges - Your expectations exclude all but the most rabid fanboys. Let me give you a few examples.
Immortal - Take 1,000,000,000 Damage You are truly Immortal. You have survived one billion points of damage.
Jailed Guess: 100 hours of being held Enemies no longer regard you as a threat.
Now is there any reason for both of those to be as high as they are? No. The only reason is to get people to play a few months longer to get 2 badges with no practical purpose.
You want us to work hard for badges? You want to make us work for badges? Fine, give the badges rewards attached to them. How about every 10 Exploration badges you get you recieve +100 health? How about every 3 Mission Badges you get you get +100 endurance? How about for each Taskforce given by a Hero; Numina, Positron, Synapse, Sister Psyche, etc, you are give +1 power or 2 enhancement slots. No?
How about you make Accolades worth the effort? How about the Crey Pistol actually be effective in combat with equal enemies, worth using. Couldn't do that apparently.
You don't want people to be unhappy with badges? Then quit taking the fun out of them. Stop taking the fun out of everything. I didn't start playing to get the Carrot and the Stick treatment. Stop telling people what they should consider fun and start asking them what they want as fun.
Just so you know, I hate Tyrants...we have enough of them in our world telling us what we should do. Did we start this game for us to have fun? I guess not. We have no one in our corner, we have no voice, we make no desicisions and I'm getting really really fed up with it.
At this rate you might as well take away all the badges, make the level cap level 35, remove stamina as a power, and set the defense cap for everyone at 2%. As far as I'm concerned the developers can take their idea of fun and....
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....grrr...I get so sick of this. I didn't pay for this abuse. If I want to pay for abuse I'll join something like Matrix Online, or call somewhere I can pay $4.95 per minute.
No offense to any City of Heroes fans, only to the Tyrants establishing policy in the name of 'Fun'.
You guys can't be serious about this. How can you datamine the game when badges first came out for all the TF's completed before the badges, but you cannot datamine for these new TF badges?
The Shard TF's take MANY MANY hours to complete, and this is utter slap in the face to everyone who has completed them already. The first one took me 10 hours, the second took 7, the third around 4, and the last about 6. That's a lot of time to spend doing something in the game and then have someone tell you that you have to do it all over again.
You know, even if it takes a long time to complete, I think datamining is a good solution, and it will make everyone much happier. It's really assinine to put somebody through that Dr. Quarterfield's TF a second time for no good reason other than absolute laziness. Because let's get to the heart of the matter: datamine CAN be done; you just don't want to do it. That laziness in my mind and unacceptable to your paying customers.
Maybe this has to do with a badge that is not active that is for time spent in the SS -
Anyways, looks like I will have to redo the TF again.
Voltaic Shock.
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Clarification - Monsters in TF's do not count towards the badges for those monsters (Babbage for ex). It has been this way for some time.
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Not true tho - I got the Babbage badge doing Synapse last week.
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The only reason you get the Babbage badge as well as the Kronos Titan badge are because they are outdoor spawns. It is similar to a zone spawn. You don't get the Jurassik badge because it is in a mission. Bottom line.
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Now is there any reason for both of those to be as high as they are? No. The only reason is to get people to play a few months longer to get 2 badges with no practical purpose.
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You know, I disagree with the idea that badges won't be datamined, but this post is ludicrous.
Take the following with a grain of salt, directed at a general manner of thinking, rather than a specific person.
If you're sticking around for another few months in order to obtain another two badges, then that's your fault. For pity's sake, people, take some personal friggin' responsibility. YOU are the ones that are hot for these badges that do nothing. They DO NOTHING. If obtaining them is the sole determinant of your continuing a subscription to a game, then you've got issues, man.
The badges do nothing. They're a diversion for when you don't feel like playing the game for XP or whatever else. If the diversion is the only thing keeping you in the game, and it's clearly no longer a fun diversion, then GO!
Leave! There's a whole world of things you can collect out there and you don't have to pay 15 bucks a month to do so!
It sucks that past badges won't be datamined. You won't get the souvenir for your trip to Disneyland, but the point of the trip to Disneyland is supposed to be the experience of going, not some *useless* tchotchke.
It's a crappy turn of events, yes, but let's keep some perspective here. Do the TFs for fun, not because your OCD compels you to.
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How can you datamine the game when badges first came out for all the TF's completed before the badges, but you cannot datamine for these new TF badges?
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Well, TFs could not be redone when they first datamined, we did not have auto-exemping then. That would be my guess.
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It's really assinine to put somebody through that Dr. Quarterfield's TF a second time for no good reason other than absolute laziness. Because let's get to the heart of the matter: datamine CAN be done; you just don't want to do it. That laziness in my mind and unacceptable to your paying customers.
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TFs CAN be redone, you just don't want to redo it. That laziness is unacceptable in my mind
The ONLY way I got the Jurassik badge was in a TF mission, because I never saw him in Crey's Folly.
This is pretty damn poor. If you wanted people to DO the TFs again because you are all to lazy to datamine (or figure out why it's a hard thing to do in the first place), then at LEAST rethink the TFs so they are INTERESTING and WORTH DOING AGAIN. Hess TF ANYONE?!?! The Shard TFs are about as fun as watching paint dry. They are similar to Hamidon in that they aren't exactly TOUGH, the hardest part is having the patience or stubbornness to stick out the huge time sink that they are.
So now you tell all these stubborn/patient people that they get nothing for their pain except a pat on the back???
COLD... cold.
Kasargi is right... you guys are bent set on sucking the fun out of this game. STOP IT DAMNIT.
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Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.
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So if i'm reading this right, i'm going to lose all my TF badges once i5 hits?
Cuppa, we understand that you can only tell us what they tell you, but can we at least get some clarification and a reason WHY the taskforce badges will not be datamined?
Ya know, I usually support the devs, and tell others to calm down etc etc etc...but more and more I am having less and less reason to give you guys the benefit of the doubt.
Between the phase shift thing and now this badge thing..its just pure laziness on the part of the developers because we KNOW that they can be datamined. Most of any respect I had left for the developers is going away slowly.
I have to agree with one of the posters, stop telling us whats fun and start asking...
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Hope you all got screenshots of defeating those particular monsters and the date with which you defeated them, seems the best way to show support of your accomplishments.