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2nd concern is Isolator. Will I ever be able to get it? I only play this one toon, and I started him at launch. I really think that loyalty should be rewarded, and that characters who were around before the badge system was implemented should be aloud to obtain them. It may not seem like a big deal to most, but it is to me.
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I agree. I've had 1 toon since before badges. i have most of them (not the healing or damage I'm illusion/kinetics) but i do want the isolator badge. i feel cheated w/o it.
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2nd concern is Isolator. Will I ever be able to get it? I only play this one toon, and I started him at launch. I really think that loyalty should be rewarded, and that characters who were around before the badge system was implemented should be aloud to obtain them. It may not seem like a big deal to most, but it is to me.
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I agree. I've had 1 toon since before badges. i have most of them (not the healing or damage I'm illusion/kinetics) but i do want the isolator badge. i feel cheated w/o it.
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Yeah. My main toon is also my main badge collector. But I made him before badges were available so I never got Isolator.
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if at all possible, please retroactively give badges for the shadow shard TFs
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Positron has stated in a previous post that not all the badges are meant to be obtained by everyone. If you missed Isolator with a toon before I2, tough luck. I missed the Halloween event, tough luck for me. There's new players that joined after May & missed Celebrant, tough luck for them. Just move on. In fact, heroes that were created before I2, IMO, are the minority. There's very few of them compared to the number of heroes created since then. Now what I believe the Devs should do is make a badge for those heroes created pre-I2, give some sort of Veterans badge, it'll be a badge only for those who couldn't get Isolator because they were fighting villains before badges were instituted.
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I recall seeing somewhere someone with a red name saying that when I5 goes live they will datamine their databases and award badges for task forces completed that did not have a badge prior to I5. It won't happen on the test server, and based on past experience I'm guessing it'll take a week or so after I5 goes live to be completed (and alas there will be some who get missed), but they will be granting badges retroactively.
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There is a real danger in every MMORPG of creating two classes, the 'haves' and 'have-nots'. And whilst I agree that a divide will always exist between those that take the time to find or achieve a badge or accolade and those that couldn't care less, it is still important that *all* players be given the opportunity.
You didn't get the Celebrant badge? Fair enough. It was a badge for being in CoH at the time of the anniversary.
didn't get the Cold Warrior badge because of the mass-Winter Lord hunting? Okay, now we're into Dev country. This is a problem that could have been prevented.
Want the healing badges? Take Aid Other and go get 'em, tiger.
Want the Isolator badge? Uh-oh.
Whilst I can understand why Positron may say "Not everyone is going to get every badge", you have to be careful with that line of thinking. Some people get the badges accidentally, some people get them for the nifty little subtitle they provide. Some people get the badges for the accolades they desire.
But many, many players get the badges because they are completists. Nobody really *wants* to spend a day collecting Rikti monkey pelts; what they want is the Zookeeper badge. And many of us have spent hours upon hours racking up the kills for the honour of wearing our honours. So when you say "Sorry, no Isolator badge for you", that's a real kick in the teeth. When you say "Sure, says here you lost a whole day of your life to collecting those Magma Lords... now, do you think you could take a billion points of damage?" That's a kick in the teeth.
There exists a fine line in the world of badge collection. You can reward people for slowing their general game progress in favour of exploring the zones and hunting out specific mobs. That's great; the player glows with reward, you gain the knowledge that fiscally, they are probably going to be around longer as a result. But if you push the line too far, it stops being a reward and becomes a chore. Nobody wants to do chores.
Lordy, for the longest time players were convinced there was a hidden Portal Corps. mission that took you to an instantiated version of Outbreak specifically for the purpose of collecting the Isolator badge in the 40+ game. That sounds like an *ideal* proposition. And heck, it sounds easy to create too. All the mission assets are already available! Why oh why kick your longest standing players in the teeth? They are the ones in most danger of leaving. Likewise, why on earth reduce the Zookeeper badge to 1K (an admirable goal, I feel!) at the same time as introducing elite million-point-plus badges?
We love the badge system, we do! But seriously, who on earth is going to get hurt if everyone finds it that much easier to get the badges? What game-mechanic is going to be thrown out of whack because somebody was able finally call themselves "Isolator"? Put the Celebrant badge up for sale in the online store; five dollars and it's yours!
A level playing field is a balanced playing field. Why not level it?
As for the old badges that some of us didn't get, why not make an option with existing game play. Portal corp is already in the game, we have the ability to jump around. Why not build a TF or series of character events that would allow you to select a point that you could go back to? Only allow for a limited amount of time for each character though, and if you have already done it then you cannot join a group going back to that point. That would allow some of us that have played since beta the chance to get isolator or skipped some of the server events. If you want the badges, here is your out, if you don't then you do not have to use the TF. Maybe you could link it to number of badges currently owned, accolades, and contacts. Once you have them you get a note from an old contact that tells you of a way to port back in time but you have to do a few things first...
Just a thought.
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First off thanks Cupa for putting this thread up! 
I have 2 concern/issues,
First is that the 1 billion marker for some badges (mainly healing) is effectively unattainable for me. Since I am a completest I really want them all.
I am a blaster and getting 2 million healing pts (doctor badge) with the medicine pool took a long time, (specially with all the defenders out there with their drive by heals) So I think that the 1 Billion number should be lowered some.
2nd concern is Isolator. Will I ever be able to get it? I only play this one toon, and I started him at launch. I really think that loyalty should be rewarded, and that characters who were around before the badge system was implemented should be aloud to obtain them. It may not seem like a big deal to most, but it is to me.
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I think the 2nd tier healing badges were intended for Defenders or Controllers with healing powers. If it was possible to get all the badges with one toon, then why create other toons? I'm pretty sure the Devs have stated that Outbreak is the only way anyone will ever be able to get Isolator.
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Why are the exploration badges still inactive in croatia?
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Why are the exploration badges still inactive in croatia? I would like to see the Accolade and what it does.
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I'd just like to know why there are giant monster badges awarded on the "let's make heroes hate each other and refuse to cooperate" principle. Which developer was stupid enough to do that and has it been fired, yet?
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I'd just like to know why there are giant monster badges awarded on the "let's make heroes hate each other and refuse to cooperate" principle. Which developer was stupid enough to do that and has it been fired, yet?
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Thank you. I and a friend went to help out a team fighting Jurassik today. I died. 50k debt, instantly (lvl 44). What did I get? About 2500xp, 2500 off of debt. No badge.
Why should I respond to their broadcast call for help if that's going to be the payoff? Real heroic ideas, there, devs.
I mean, look: Presumably, badges represent an official recognition by Paragon city's elected representatives of significant service on the behalf of Paragon. When a giant monster threatens Paragon city, ANY hero who responds, does any damage to the monster, heals any hero fighting the monster, or puts life and limb at risk to defend the citizens of Paragon deserves a badge in recognition of that effort. Can you imagine the following taking place without a mass protest by the heroes' union?
"In other news, the mayor of Paragon said today that, while he 'feels the pain' of the many heroes hospitalized in today's pitched battle against the giant monster in Independance Port, they will not be receiving any official recognition from Paragon City for their efforts. Instead, he will be awarding Freedom Phalanx with yet another badge for defeating this threat to our fair city. Oh, and he made a point to remind all such heroes that the city will not be covering any debt accrued due to their hospitalization, and that all such heroes would be expected to 'pay their own way' back to health.'
Statesman said that he appreciated the attempts by 'lesser' heroes to help, but suggested that they really didn't deserve the badge as much as he did, and that they would agree with this if they were being honest with themselves. Shortly after this, Manticore was heard to say, 'GOD, he's SUCH an [expletive deleted]'.
This reporter can only agree."
Do Numina. You'll get two badges.
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If you mean the badge for Numina and the badge for Jurassik...not anymore. Since badges are so incredibly valuable they must be given out sparingly, Jurassik in the task force no longer grants the badge.
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Since when?
Did threeish weeks ago.
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They announced it some time ago. I've never confirmed...never really cared for Numina TF.
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Who is "they?"
Link please.
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They = devs. Don't have link.
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I can verify this. I did numina's TF about a month and a half ago and did not get the badge for defeating Jurassik.
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I can verify this. I did numina's TF about a month and a half ago and did not get the badge for defeating Jurassik.
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Same. Did it about a month ago with two different characters about a week apart. Neither got the Solution badge.
Increase monster and event spawns!
Change it so everybody who helps fight a monster gets the badge. Screw the exp, nobody cares for monster exp anymore anyway since it was lowered.
Put the badges for Babbage and Jurassik back into the TF's, why was it changed anyway? Aren't they the "real" monsters?
Sort the badges in the achievement tab.
Separate the achievement badges into different tabs (hunting, missions, achievement).
Get real for some of those new epic badges. 1 billion HP damage? How much healing? I'm a rad defender and don't even have the 3rd one! How much influence do I need to earn for the next 3 influence badges? There are 3 new SKing badges? But we already need about 144 hours of SKing for the 3rd one! (I SKed someone for 4 hours recently and the bar didn't even move).
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I completed Numinas TF around the same time (maybe a little earlier) you guys did and didn't recieve the Solution badge. I then sent a petition and recieved it about 10 minutes later along with an email stating that I qualified for the badge. However I have heard from several players that the badge is no longer available through the TF.
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Get real for some of those new epic badges. 1 billion HP damage? How much healing? I'm a rad defender and don't even have the 3rd one! How much influence do I need to earn for the next 3 influence badges? There are 3 new SKing badges? But we already need about 144 hours of SKing for the 3rd one! (I SKed someone for 4 hours recently and the bar didn't even move).
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I actually like most of those new badges. Except the SK one, they're already very difficult to get. My opinion is, hopefully one day they'll increase the max level beyond 50 so that these epic badges will fit right in.
Oddly, I did it three weeks ago and have the badge.
Perhaps you should have considered sending in a petition?
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