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I think what he's asking is for you to make a badge to give to those who completed Calvin Scott's taskforce.
Not that I agree. It'd be nice to have a keepsake for completing the thing, but it'd be pointless to make a badge that nobody can attempt to earn.
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Ya, I guess there wouldn't be one would there. Seeing as really, it was supposed to be a kinda secret thing that the other heroes weren't supposed to know about. At least, that was the impression I got.
Yeah, you were forced at gunpoint to do those monkey herding groups.
You do realize that the way the game will work in Issue 5 that that 1000 monkey total will probably take about as long as it did to herd 10,000 monkies, right?
All the 10,000 monkey badge would prove is that you accomplished the feat when it was much, much, much easier to get the badge. Nothing more.
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No, it's a fix for those after the changes so that they can still spend in theory about the same about of time and effort to get this badge.
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No No. What I'm sayin is those of us that have had to take out 10K of monkeys getting something is fine, but now that's it's been reduced to 1K, 9K of our effort in time was wasted. It would be nice to recognize the time and effort spent b4 nerfs. Like with all the Hami-Os that were nerfed and all the hours people spent on getting them. The Hive is now a dead zone.
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but it would be beyond reason for anyone to attain the 10,000 Monkey badge at this point.
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What about the "beyond reason" numbers attached to some of the other epic badges?
1 billion damage taken = 77 consecutive days (1852 hours) of taking 1500 points every 10 seconds. I'm not even sure a regen could stad up to 1500 points every 10 seconds.
1 billion points healed = Spam healing 10 targets every 5 seconds for 14 days (347 hours). This would probably only be possible from attending the mito phases of over 300 Hamidon raids.
How are either of these or even the earlier verions of them within reason? You might as well offer an epic Isolator badge: defeat 10,000 contaminated.
Oh and even without herding it would be possible to get the 10,000 monkey badge with an 8 man team in 3-4 hours. Much easier that either of the epic badges above.
Sniff, thanks for wasting my time on getting that badge my that took 3 weeks out of my life that I can't get back and I dreamed of monkies for weeks afterwords. I'll now be sending my medical bills directly to your headquarters and will be expecting some form of payback for my mental issues.
But Epic badges is a great idea... Sort of like the Kill Skuls badge. I know that's a joke, but isn't it sort of an Epic Badge also.
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Why? I would, as an empath/rad defender, go to Monkey Island or Crey's Folly when I had 5 or 10 spare minutes, waiting for people, that sort of thing. I got up to 90%, then an earth/storm troller friend of mine finished up the last 10% in a big herd. But I was never, NEVER forced to herd them. They set the level, we have the choice of putting the effort in for it. I've spent hours, upon hours, getting rid of all the fog of war in all the maps. Even FBZ, or as much as is possible. Still have the other 3 shard zones to go. Should I 'demand' something that recoginzes 'all the time and effort' I've put into that task as well?
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Like with all the Hami-Os that were nerfed and all the hours people spent on getting them. The Hive is now a dead zon.
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First, there's now a raid or two a week still on Virtue. Server took him down yesterday, in fact. Not twice daily, but a lot of newer folk are getting up to 50 and enjoying the Hive for the first time. Don't know how it is on your server, but you may want to qualify your "Hive is a dead zon[sic]" blanket statement to at least reflect just your personal server.
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but it would be beyond reason for anyone to attain the 10,000 Monkey badge at this point.
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What about the "beyond reason" numbers attached to some of the other epic badges?
1 billion damage taken = 77 consecutive days (1852 hours) of taking 1500 points every 10 seconds. I'm not even sure a regen could stad up to 1500 points every 10 seconds.
1 billion points healed = Spam healing 10 targets every 5 seconds for 14 days (347 hours). This would probably only be possible from attending the mito phases of over 300 Hamidon raids.
How are either of these or even the earlier verions of them within reason? You might as well offer an epic Isolator badge: defeat 10,000 contaminated.
Oh and even without herding it would be possible to get the 10,000 monkey badge with an 8 man team in 3-4 hours. Much easier that either of the epic badges above.
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Well, let's look up the term epic, shall we? Epic adj 1: very imposing or impressive; surpassing the ordinary (especially in size or scale)
You're not hurt if you don't ever get them. But for people that, eventually, take that damage/sk someone/heal that much/are mezzed that long/get the debt, it's a small reward. Make it so everyone can get it with a small hack, or tweak, and it's like Syndome's quote from The Increadables, "If everyone is super, then no one is super."
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Never mind the time it would take to get the new sidekicking badges.
On Calvin Scott:
Hell, they couldn't even give souv's correctly on that TF. What makes you think they'll get badges on them? I did that TF w/ three characters, and after many many petitions, I've gotten the souv. on exactly one of them.
Positron:
I'll repeat my request. I spent a good 22 hours doing the Shard TF's. I don't want badges for them. I want freaking medals and a god damn ticker tape PARADE through Steel Canyon for doing that TF's.
If badges aren't rewarded retroactively for those TF's, I vow to tripple the rate of my post [censored].
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No No. What I'm sayin is those of us that have had to take out 10K of monkeys getting something is fine, but now that's it's been reduced to 1K, 9K of our effort in time was wasted. It would be nice to recognize the time and effort spent b4 nerfs. Like with all the Hami-Os that were nerfed and all the hours people spent on getting them. The Hive is now a dead zone.
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The reason is that for 90% of the people getting 10K monkeys wasn't as hard as getting 1K is now because you could herd a huge number of them all at once. They just sat around waiting for a Tank to round up a massive pile of them, then they would clean them all out at once with a Nova or whatever.
Now you have to kill them 10 at a time so its a lot more work (well except for the Tank who sort of had to work hard before 
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If you got the badge the hard way you will have to find self validation in your accomplishment. Personally since I was unwilling to herd I just skipped the whole thing and did without.
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Oh and even without herding it would be possible to get the 10,000 monkey badge with an 8 man team in 3-4 hours. Much easier that either of the epic badges above.
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*raises hand*
I did it at level 38, along with a 41 controller, with 0 herding. We broadcast looking for people for mutual benefit - they'd help us, and we'd help them. We never had more than a 5-person group going, and I am pretty sure that me and my friend accounted for a large percentage of the kills we got, and even then it only took 3-4 nights of 2-3 hours a night.
Summarizing the numbers: 2 people doing most of the work, no herding: 8-12 hours. 10,000, while sounding depressing when you start, isn't nearly as bad as you think. And we weren't even 50, we were still getting exp for a bunch of these monkeys. (green and high grey cons)
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A "Soul Orb" shouldnt be hard to make
*goes into paint and makes a black circle with little purple stuff around it* Look, its a soul orb!!
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But doesn't mean there should be one 
I say it needs one!
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so no badge for calvin and no souvanir.
No way of remembering the tf for those of us who did it.
that is... to say the least, disappointing.
Hey pos, are we ever getting our TF souvanirs reinstated? I feel bad for manticore, whose team worked on them, and all the player base who (like me) play the game for the storylines. I feel jobbed that I can no longer get a souvanir from a TF and I honestly feel little motivation to do any now. C'mon man, work that bug out and give us back the story! There is very little downtime when running TFs (for an efficient team) for us to view the story as it progresses. (I know the only reason I can remember the manticore TF is because of my souvanir). Of all the things removed and changed in this game since I started, the TF souvanir removal upset me the most...
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Why? I would, as an empath/rad defender, go to Monkey Island or Crey's Folly when I had 5 or 10 spare minutes, waiting for people, that sort of thing. I got up to 90%, then an earth/storm troller friend of mine finished up the last 10% in a big herd. But I was never, NEVER forced to herd them. They set the level, we have the choice of putting the effort in for it. I've spent hours, upon hours, getting rid of all the fog of war in all the maps. Even FBZ, or as much as is possible. Still have the other 3 shard zones to go. Should I 'demand' something that recoginzes 'all the time and effort' I've put into that task as well?
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You're missing the point. I already wasted enough time on 10K monkeys and got the badge for now what will be 1K monkeys to get the badge. I mean I could whine and say "what about my badge for 10K of monkeys!?" but with the way the game has been "progressing" if some would even call it that. It's of no surprise and really not a "priority whine" as opposed to some of the other things that have gone on since I3 with the game that I've spent much more time on and in a sense "wasted" time on for them being nerfed or completely altered in the game that they really should be called something else all together or removed from the game.
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First, there's now a raid or two a week still on Virtue. Server took him down yesterday, in fact. Not twice daily, but a lot of newer folk are getting up to 50 and enjoying the Hive for the first time. Don't know how it is on your server, but you may want to qualify your "Hive is a dead zon[sic]" blanket statement to at least reflect just your personal server.
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Given the amount of times we did Hami on Justice, daily, nevermind weekly, it is more or less a dead zone now. Yes, people still "bother" to go into the Hive and do raids, but not many people care to at this point because the reward is no longer worth the risk and even more so the time spent doing a raid.
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What I'm sayin is those of us that have had to take out 10K of monkeys getting something is fine, but now that's it's been reduced to 1K, 9K of our effort in time was wasted. It would be nice to recognize the time and effort spent b4 nerfs. Like with all the Hami-Os that were nerfed and all the hours people spent on getting them. The Hive is now a dead zone.
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First point: all time playing an MMO is wasted time so let's throw out that idea. You were having fun, right? Because if you were spending hours doing something that wasn't fun of your own free will then you should be asking yourself some serious questions.
You got to 10K. You had your moment of "Whoopie!". That's it. that's what you wanted, right?
Look, just put "I killed 10, 000 monkeys" in your sig file and we'll all go 'ooh' and 'awww' and ponder how wonderful a human being you are and think the appropriately good things about you.
That's what you want, right?
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Same goes for Hami-Os. If you were farming Hami-Os and doing it while not enjoying it then I say 'shake your head' and if you did enjoy it then nothing can take those memories away from you. Check pace and carry on.
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Just curious....Why wouldn't any TF have a badge? Is there a specific reason why some TF get badges and some don't? Or is it just something the dev team will EVENTUALLY get to? I'm wondering how hard it is to include a badge upon releasing a new TF on live as a complete package?
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Is there a reason why there is no badge for this Task Force?
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Since the number of monkeys has been reduced on test, will there be epic defeat badges?
So, those that have the 10K for Zookeeper would have 2 badges (1K and 10K)
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There was talk of adding one... but it would be beyond reason for anyone to attain the 10,000 Monkey badge at this point. The reason the badge was lowered in the first place was to compensate for the increased difficulty in getting to 10,000.
If we made a 10,000 badge now, we'd have the same problem all over again.
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How about a badge for 12 monkies?
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So, those that have the 10K for Zookeeper would have 2 badges (1K and 10K)
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There was talk of adding one... but it would be beyond reason for anyone to attain the 10,000 Monkey badge at this point. The reason the badge was lowered in the first place was to compensate for the increased difficulty in getting to 10,000.
If we made a 10,000 badge now, we'd have the same problem all over again.
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How about a badge for 12 monkies?
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They would need liscensing for Brue Willis's face for that badge.
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So, those that have the 10K for Zookeeper would have 2 badges (1K and 10K)
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There was talk of adding one... but it would be beyond reason for anyone to attain the 10,000 Monkey badge at this point. The reason the badge was lowered in the first place was to compensate for the increased difficulty in getting to 10,000.
If we made a 10,000 badge now, we'd have the same problem all over again.
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How about a badge for 12 monkies?
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5 Stars my good friend.
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"Curse you Perry the Plata...wait, is that Love Handel?" - Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz, Phineas and Ferb
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Thank you for not giving a badge out for something that had no mention of a badge being recieved when it was around. That would have upset a lot of people. At least with the holiday ones if they aren't able to be done again if you were around at the time you knew you would get a badge. If they gave a badge for Calvin Scott that would be giving a badge for something you can't do any longer and had no idea there was going to be a badge for it.
Thanks again for no Calvin Scott badge. Very good play on that.
"About the same amount of time?" If you're herding, sure. But if you do all the Rikti arcs in groups and some door missions, I don't think it's unrealistic to expect to get 1000 monkey kills in the time it takes you to get 50. I know that my 50, who has never herded monkeys or gone out of his way to hunt them in Crey's Folly or whereever, instantly got the badge when the limit was changed on Test. So I think you'e grossly exaggerating, unless the number of monkeys in a spawn has also been reduced.
Peace,
ZQA
EDIT: Oops, just realized I invoked the "I Have a Fifty!" fallacy. I feel so...so LAME! But regardless, I think that 1000 monkeys is something that can realistically be done without herding or farming them.
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Agreed.
One thing I would like clarification on Positron, if there are to be no more Souvenirs awarded in the game, are the current ones going to be removed? If so, I would strongly urge you to protect the storyline change that is documented by the Soul Orb that many of us received from doing the Calvin Scott TF.
If you plan to delete the Souvenirs, I would request that a Badge be made for the CS TF that includes the text of the Souvenir.
Preserving the changes to the Storyline are one of the key reasons that many of the players like having the Souvenirs, not for the Souvenir itself but for the story it contains.
Please consider changing Badges to have a drop down arrow that includes the text of the Souvenir. This way, with the removal of the Souvenirs, we can still keep the excellent storylines and their subsequent changes as they would be attached to the Badge.
Thanks for your consideration.
Sign It : http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes
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There was talk of adding one... but it would be beyond reason for anyone to attain the 10,000 Monkey badge at this point. The reason the badge was lowered in the first place was to compensate for the increased difficulty in getting to 10,000.
If we made a 10,000 badge now, we'd have the same problem all over again.
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I don't like the idea of having a 10k badge for monkeys, either, but I don't see how this reasoning for not having them is any different than saying some of the other badges would also be virtually unattainable, without months of dedication to getting them. For instance, most people have spent less than 1,000 hours in game on any one character, so the only way anyone would ever get Paradigm is if they got a sidekick, logged into a mission, and went afk for a matter of months.... I.e., it doesn't seem possible. I'm not sure if that's why they're "epic" badges, but it would seem that a seemingly unnattainable number for monkeys wouldn't be too much different than a seemingly unnattainable number for healing, and most of the people who would get it would have a little bonus recognition for having monkeys pre-I5, something that might appeal to some who wanted Vanguard before level 50 but couldn't get it because of the enormous number of monkeys or because of levelling too hgih before I2.
No, it's a fix for those after the changes so that they can still spend in theory about the same about of time and effort to get this badge.