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Every SG member gets the buff no matter where they are at.

What everyone is forgetting is that it will take ~24 SG members to even complete the CoP Trial. So all you little groups out there shouldn't even be worrying about it because you won't have a chance to get an IoP anyway.

Wow, the Devs actually come in here and lower a badge requirement but still only get [censored] from the community. And I thought I was Anti-Dev.

With zero power-leveling and lots of playing on big teams, my brute will get the 10 million damage taken badge during regular game play. I have 2 levels to go and just a hair til I get the badge. I guess the lower resists then a tank helps the brutes take more damage.

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well, that's not exactly the feedback I was hoping for.

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Well, it's definitely a story. A bunch of words put together to make sentences and then paragraphs. Not much more then that. It really wasn't all that interesting and personally speaking not very well written. I could barely bring myself to read all of it but pushed through. For me, I want the writer to pull me into his story not torture me through it.

Anyway, not too bad for a first time writer. I'm sure your technique will get much better if you want to continue towards writing.

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The two situations are rather different - the monkeys change came simultaneously with the cap on the AoE effects. 10K was no longer remotely reasonable given the new limits on tanker taunts, controller AoE mezzes, and blaster AoE attacks.

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Well, seeing as you agree to a statement that says the game can change at any moment each time you log in. I don't see people being able to do much if they did change the requirements for a badge. They could delete all badges all together if they wanted, it is their game.

yeah pretty annoying stuff. good to see you found out what was causing your problems Gaz. it was just 1 bridge in our case.

Yeah, it is a real pain. I can't even put anything on an entire wall for some reason. The entire wall. Not even a small torch. Rather silly if you ask me.

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I think it's more the case that people who got extra "creative" with their base design and exploiting a few of the bugs in the previous verision (where you could block off rooms completely with careful placement of items) are getting caught by bugfixes to the base code. I bet the pathing is the same, just minus a few bugs.

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Actually we weren't blocking or exploiting anything. I found out what it was that was causing our medical room to be locked down. It was a bridge, yes a simple bridge that was going from 1 raised floor square to another raised floor square. Once the bridge was deleted, I could place the doorway back that was deleted but I couldn't place the bridge again. I got an email from a GM that actually said pathing was changed. I can deal with the bridge not being there but I just found it to be really silly that something not blocking a single thing in the room or between rooms was causing the trouble.

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Odd. I wonder why I was able to edit my base with no problems, then?

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it could be that your base isn't bugged. i'm just saying. LOL

lol verifying my files wouldn't make a difference. anyway castle is aware of the problem and it is being looked into. it isn't only me who had the problem.

i was just mainly bringing it to folks attention so they don't freak out. it is a problem multiple people are having and the devs are looking into it.

well it looks like the patch came in with a nice base bug. doorways are being deleted and rooms are basically being locked down. by locked down, i mean nothing can be moved in the room, nothing can be added to the room, and the room can not be deleted.

fun stuff.

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Don't know if this is I7 or before but...Guantlet will work in PvP soon.

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Does this mean the single target punch taunt for brutes will come back also for PvP? It would only be fair and kind of funny since it was already in and taken out.

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So now we are at a point were we are being nerfed even though small and why because we are uber no because the other villian ATs can not keep up with us in PvP.

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Again he didn't just say villain ATs. He said all ATs, that includes hero ATs also. And I don't think it is a matter of "keeping up" but more of a you are an olympic runner and the other ATs are crawling babies.

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True, you have sort of made this thread your crusade.

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Nah. My crusade was 'Save Sally'.

*sniff*

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Cool, I killed her many many times.

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You have the time stamp/link?

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It's in the bloody thread. Look it up your damn self.

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See now I'm confused.

Is the question "What are the empowerment stations?"

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Yes, it is. My error. Sorry. Have gone and edited. Toooooo many posts, not enough coffee.

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True, you have sort of made this thread your crusade.

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I received no PM's at all... Let alone one that says your right. So I'm not sure what you're talking about.

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Oh, is that right???

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Yes it is right. I didn't recieve a PM either. The PM was posted in this very thread by someone else.

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The question was 'What are the storage stations?' How is that not definitive?

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See now I'm confused.

Is the question "What are the empowerment stations?"

or

Is the question "What are storage stations"?

Because there is definitely a difference between the 2.

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Here's the current numbers in testing (subject to change):

Base Entry Room: Free
Workshop Room (2x2): 100,000p
Lowest Power Empowerment Station (requires 0 Energy, 0 Control): 15,000p
Salvage Rack (requires 0 Energy, 0 Control): 15,000p

Total Cost for working Salvage storage and a working Empowerment Station: 130,000 Prestige


EDIT: Added in Energy and Control numbers.

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Thank you positron for finally giving us some numbers. We do appreciate it.

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It's not the Devs I'm bothered about, it's the level of common sense.

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Yeah tell me about it. Since the Devs won't help us out here, maybe you can help us Lady_Sadako.

What is "reasonably priced"? Is it 1k, is it 5k, is it 10k, is it 15k prestige? Is it "reasonably priced" for a SG of 1, 5, 10, 15, or 20 members? The reason why positron put "reasonably priced" in quotes is directly because it is a matter of opinion.

So I will use a little common sense and realize that since the "reasonably priced" statement is based on a view point, that people will try to figure out whose view point positron is using. People will debate it because no numbers were given and only a cryptic "reasonably priced" statement was made that is obviously based on a matter of opinion. Now that is some common sense for you.

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My own fault for having the wrong expectations.

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Not to toot my own horn, well who am I kidding. toot toot

I think I had a good number of posts before these announements telling people not to expect too much and prepared to be disappointed. I'm not saying these additions are bad things, I just knew they wouldn't be what the player base needed or really wanted. Not talking about the storage containers; those were highly wanted. We will see how disappointing their functionality turns out once they hit test though.

I think the Devs come up with some really really outstanding ideas. However, their implementation of these ideas are usually very poor.

Jesus, you are like a hawk. You really are their freaking body guard aren't you. Lady_Sadako, Protector of Devs.

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That's not an ad hominem in the slightest. Some people are doubtful that the Devs are going to deliver. Saying so does not amount to a personal attack.

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And some people have their head so far up the Devs you know what, that they are posting continuously to try to ward off the pitchfork citizens. You seem to have appointed yourself as the Devs body guard so don't get so upset Sadako when people have now started focusing their anger on you. I guess you are now the Devs lightening rod. Must be all the playful banter back and worth with the Devs and yourself that makes you feel like they are your friends and you have to defend them.

I can tell you they aren't my friends. They are a business providing me with a service. They will be treated accordingly. I will continue to question anything and everything they do. That is my right as a customer and their burden as the business.

If these items are so "reasonably priced", why don't they just come out and post what the prices are to settle people down instead of saying "reasonably priced". I think the reason is because they don't have a handle on the price yet. Maybe all these people posting will have them lower the price even more before it hits test server. You don't know because they haven't stated a price for them. Maybe before positron posted they had the prices set at 50k prestige but after reading this thread they change the prices to 10k prestige. You won't know and we won't know. But you will have the opportunity if they do to say "see I told you so" when it was actually our posting that got it lowered.

What is the harm in posting the prices of these items instead of stating "reasonably priced"? Post the number Positron and then let the customer base decide if these are "resonably priced" because stating such a thing on behalf of the player base is not very realistic. Whose view of "reasonably priced" are we going off of here.

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None, 0, zip, nada... Posi answered this via a PM already.

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Look at that PM again. He said the salvage storage wouldn't cost power or control but the enhancement and inspiration storages would.

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*cries as any long thought out posts are buried by tons of short psuedo-flame wars*

I'm kinda new here but I'm guessing this always happens? People get bickering about this and that, alot of times not even about something on topic, and any useful discussion is lost in some peoples need to post back and forth, arguing with each other a couple sentences at a time.

I see the PM option, haven't used it but I doubt its hard. Maybe instead of talking to each other in a thread discussing the buffs coming in I7, you could PM each other. Or you could make a thread about base cost, how much stuff you get, or what you think about the base design... I dunno thats just me and my logic, I've been told its strange sometimes :P

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If you need useful stuff, then click here

anything else is just theory and debate so don't worry yourself over what others are doing. And why be a hypocrite and post off topic when that is what you are complaining about? Maybe you should have taken your own advice and made a thread about people who post off topic instead of bringing it here?

This argument is plain stupid anyway. You don't have a clue of how things will be and I don't have a clue either. Let's just sit back and enjoy the show.