Dev Response - Badges


40Thieves

 

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My thoughts...

• Isolator - There should be some way for those who would like to get this badge a chance to go back and get it. My main was created prior to I2 and would love the opportunity to get it.
• TF's Shards - I will agree with everyone that has already done these TF’s that it is not something we want to repeat. (As a general comment all TF’s are just god awful long. It can take me days just to find players who have the time to do these. It is not fun doing one and almost everyone quits after the first couple of missions). I do want to say thanks in fixing it so us higher players can go back and redo them.
• Monster badges need to be looked at. They can’t be soloed. So when someone spots one they call for help. By that time there can be 30 heroes trying to do the most damage to get the badge. Recommendations - Fix spawn rate or allow all that assist in the killing to get the badge.
• I agree with cleaning up the Badge list. Very cluttered now.
• I agree with monkeys and illusions kill count to be dropped slightly. Illusions the most do to the rarity of spawns. I think right now the kill rate for all other badges is good as is.

I love the badges. I think that is what kept me playing COH.

But all badges should be made with a chance of getting it for those who want it. If made impossible then there is no point in trying.


 

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• Isolator - There should be some way for those who would like to get this badge a chance to go back and get it. My main was created prior to I2 and would love the opportunity to get it.

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This I can agree with, it seemed odd to me at the time when they announced there would be a badge no older character had a hope of attaining. Maybe have a few of the outbreak mobs dotted around Atlas Park etc.

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• Monster badges need to be looked at. They can’t be soloed. So when someone spots one they call for help. By that time there can be 30 heroes trying to do the most damage to get the badge. Recommendations - Fix spawn rate or allow all that assist in the killing to get the badge.

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I've been away for a while so I'm guessing that all Monster class mobs are now pretty much unsoloable no matter what level you are? Or not, thinking about that, it doesn't seem possible... I know I've soloed all the sub L40 monsters before any changes.

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• I agree with monkeys and illusions kill count to be dropped slightly. Illusions the most do to the rarity of spawns. I think right now the kill rate for all other badges is good as is.

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Monkeys needs to stay as-is. Killing monkeys is not a challenge. Killing that many monkeys is. I fought a long time for that badge and felt a sense of elation and relief when I finally earned it. Call this a 'I did it, everyone else should too' vote if you will, but I believe the lack of challenge the monkeys represent (putting aside other risks if you choose to hunt them in high level areas) should mean the high death toll the badge requires.

The Illusions needed, however, should definately be lowered. The means to get it are unpredictable and dangerous, involving keeping the casting mob alive for as long as possible. Very silly indeed.


 

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I also did Numinia's TF about 1.5 months ago and you dont get the Jurassic badge for it. Below is the GM response i got

Thank you for contacting City of Heroes Support regarding The Solution badge from defeating Jurassik in the Numina Task Force. The Jurassik found in the Numina Task Force no longer awards The Solution badge and is working as designed at this time. The only mob that will award The Solution Badge is the Jurassik found in Crey's Folly, as this mob is more difficult than that of the one found in the Numina Task Force. If you defeat Jurassik in Crey's Folly and meet the damage/ team requirements, the character will receive The Solution badge.

Hope this helps

As a side note faught him in Creys folly 2 weeks later and did get the badge.


 

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lowering the amount needed for any badge would just cheapen it, illusions are not hard to get, sure it took me 10 hrs straight to get it the first time but i did it, now i can get it in less than 1 cuz i have the mission, monkeys took me 8 days but i did it, making it a gimme badge for anyone who doesnt have the determination to do it just makes people who wokred hard to get it feel like they wasted their time.oh and i got them both with a blaster, illusionist being dangerous is just part of the risk you have to take to get that accolade.


 

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Oddly, I did it three weeks ago and have the badge.

Perhaps you should have considered sending in a petition?

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I did and was told that the monsters in the TF's were to easy to take down and that is the reason there are no more badges for those monsters in TF's


@Sorak

 

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Clarification - Monsters in TF's do not count towards the badges for those monsters (Adamastor or Jurrassic for ex). It has been this way for some time.

Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.

I know - it stinks - I'm sorry about that.

**edited to read correctly - note on top of all that - Babbage that is in the TF will give you the badge - IF your group does the most damage to it - if someone helps you defeat Babbage - you may not get it if your team does not do the majority of the damage**


 

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WHAT??? I know Jurassic doesn't count, but when did they drop Babbage's badge?

And no datamining for TF badges is ridiculous.

I'm so glad that the devs don't give a damn about angering their customers. I must not get this business thing...I thought angering your customers was bad.


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Oh ouch.

Ohhh ouch.


 

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Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.


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Well.. thanks for trying, Cuppa.


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I have the Jurassic badge and i got it in the TF. When was that changed?


 

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ARRRGG!!!! Dr Quaterfield TF AGAIN!!!!


 

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No datamining for previous Task Forces? Greeeeeat. Now I have to do the shard TF's all over again. Theres another four weekends I'll never get back.

Looking forword to Issue Five though!


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Clarification - Monsters in TF's do not count towards the badges for those monsters (Babbage for ex). It has been this way for some time.

Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.

I know - it stinks - I'm sorry about that.

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KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

(That's 5 days of my life wasted on two shard TFs that will never matter....)


 

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Clarification - Monsters in TF's do not count towards the badges for those monsters (Babbage for ex). It has been this way for some time.

Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.

I know - it stinks - I'm sorry about that.

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They've got to kidding, nearly a damn week to do all four Shard TF's with almost NO reward, hell how many people have even done it, it can't take that much to data mine. That is a world class boner decision, well at least I5 gives 50's something new to do.......... oops my bad..

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Cuppa, this is friggin BS. Why will there be no datamining? Too much work for you poor overworked people?

Do you REALLY expect that we should do the godawful first Shard TF, which lasts only... 12 hours... AGAIN just to get the badge?

I wanted to do ALL of the TF's in the game once, but this is BS. This could've been a free bone to toss to your customers, but I know you don't actually like people being HAPPY in a GAME.

Theres no reason not to give us our damned badges!


 

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WHAT??? I know Jurassic doesn't count, but when did they drop Babbage's badge?

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Babbage never gave a badge in the Synapse TF.


 

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WHAT??? I know Jurassic doesn't count, but when did they drop Babbage's badge?

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Babbage never gave a badge in the Synapse TF.

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Just did Synapse Saturday, I got his badge.


 

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Clarification - Monsters in TF's do not count towards the badges for those monsters (Babbage for ex). It has been this way for some time.

Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.

I know - it stinks - I'm sorry about that.

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First off, thanks for the info, Cuppa...you always rock. I don't believe in blaming the messenger.

Second...interesting. I did the Synapse TF two weeks ago and got the badge for Babbage.

As for not getting badges for the other TFs...darn. Not sure why this isn't being done, but there's no way in heck I'm going to do the Moonfire TF again for just the new badge for it in I5...guess I'll do without it.


 

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Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.

I know - it stinks - I'm sorry about that.

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Stinks isn't the word I would have used...

...saying I have to do the Moonfire TF again is one thing (as it can be knocked out in 2 hrs), but saying I have to do the hell that is the Explorers & Exploiters TF again really bites!

How about petitioning? I have a log of the dates & times of all the TFs that I did that currently do not offer badges.


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/Unloads sidearm so cannot shoot the messanger.

Cuppa this is a bad PR move, but I know you tried your best.

Makes this Kitty Sad

The Kitty relaises he gets to run the 2 TF's he would be eligible for again

Well a sort of half hearted grin anyway.

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OK the whole Monster/AV thing is messed up in TF's and story arcs for examples.

Jurassik - Giant Monster in Creys, AV in TF (no badge for TF version)

Adamastor - Giant Monster in DA, AV in Mission (no badge for mission version)

Those are different risk, different reward

Babbage Giant monster both wild and in TF (badge for both)

Same risk same reward



Kronos Giant Monster in Wild, AV in Final mission (badge for both)

Different risk same reward.



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WHAT??? I know Jurassic doesn't count, but when did they drop Babbage's badge?

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Babbage never gave a badge in the Synapse TF.

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Always has since badges were introduced. It's possible for another group to swoop in and KS him (and thus no badge) but the Babbage that shows up in Skyway City as an ambush for the Synapse TF.

I'm hoping this is a breakdown in communication (the dev who told CuppaJo was thinking about Jurassik). If they are removing the badge from Babbage, there's no reason other than pure cold-hearted stinginess.


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Ouch, what reason could they have for doing this? Jurrasik ain't exactly easy to find in Crey's Folly! Heck most of the monsters are hard to find, I really think they should consider keeping the TF rewards.


 

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Clarification - Monsters in TF's do not count towards the badges for those monsters (Babbage for ex). It has been this way for some time.

Babbage still awards the Clockstopper badge during the Synapse TF, as recently as a few days ago.

Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.

This on the other hand is ridiculous. Fortunately I have not yet started on the Shadow Shard TFs, but I do have four differenent characters that have all done the Moonfire TF before. And if they don't receive their badges when Issue 5 goes live, you can bet that I'll be petitioning for them until they do receive them.


 

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Also - after much pushing and shoving - we were told that there will NOT be data mining for TF badges. So if you did a TF before I5 - when I5 goes live you will not get a badge for it auto-magically.

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*foams at mouth*