NCSoft's Official Response to Us


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Originally Posted by NCSoft
It has not been an easy decision for us to close Paragon StudiosĀ® and prepare to shut down City of Heroes.
Since NCSoft has revealed next nothing about their decision-making process here, there's no objective evidence about whether this was an easy choice, a tough one, or the unfortunate result of an all-night drunken bar crawl. All we've heard in fact since the news first broke are a few paragraphs of boilerplate PR-speak. While Paragon Studios prided itself on keeping in personal contact with their playing community, NCSoft has opted to remain as anonymous as only a corporate entity can be. If they expect us to swallow this, then they've managed to ingore the bad taste this weaksauce statement should have left in their mealy mouths.

At this point, CoH's condition must be downgraded to "hope for the best, expect the worst."


 

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I stayed positive from the day the news broke because the chance was just sitting there for another publisher/developer to pick up the IP and carry on.

But now.....

...now I begin to morn.

:-(


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Me: Hey! What's all this laying around stuff? Why are you all still laying around here for?
You: What the hell are we supposed to do, ya moron? The game is done. There's nothing to fight for anymore.
Other You: Let it go. War's over, man. NCSoft dropped the big one.
Me: What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Me: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard of something to say]
Me: The tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!


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i dreamed a dream, but now that dream is gone...good bye Paragon

 

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I guess we're supposed to think:

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"Oh, well. NCSoft heard us and gave our concerns serious consideration. They tried other options including finding someone to buy the studio and the game; but, efforts made just didn't win out. They said CoH is special to their hearts, too. I feel a lot better about NCSoft. I'm gonna move on to Guild Wars 2... maybe Aion or Lineage II. Can't wait to play Blade and Soul and WildStar."
Uh, no.


 

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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast View Post
My response to NCSoft - They will never see one more penny from me!

Trying to find GW2 in my list of programs to uninstall & dont see it. How do you uninstall this game?


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Well then, all that remains now is to find a way to target and destroy NCSoft. Pretty simple. Let's get started.


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Well then, all that remains now is to find a way to target and destroy NCSoft. Pretty simple. Let's get started.
Actually...no - that's exactly what they'll be expecting us to do!

So I won't give them the satisfaction. They tried to wait us out - we didn't give up. They folded their hand first.

Why should we react now? Looks like they didn't like being outwaited. So I say we outwait them some more


 

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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast View Post
My response to NCSoft - They will never see one more penny from me!

Can I have your stuff?


 

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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight View Post
We can only wait to see if people from Paragon Studios will speak about their end of things.
At the most, all they're going to do is thank us for the support. Any plans they may have (or plans for plans) like forming a new studio to create a new super hero IP and spiritual successor to CoH, they're not going to talk about or even hint about at this stage.

I can't say I'm surprised. NC had zero reason to budge on the IP because all they'd be doing is enabling a competitor. They didn't want the game being saved and they don't want anyone else to have it. I doubt they seriously entertained reasonable offers, and considering they just plan to sit on the IP, even $200 in pennies would be more than it's going to make then for the next three years.

Nope. Better to sever ties with these a-hats and start over someplace green. What we still need to do is throw our support behind 'Formerly Known as Paragon Studios' and show them we want a future with a quality superhero MMO made by them in it.




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Already uninstalled - sorry.

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Can I have your stuff?


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I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

 

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trying to find gw2 in my list of programs to uninstall & dont see it. How do you uninstall this game?


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I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

 

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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast View Post
Already uninstalled - sorry.
That doesn't destroy your stuff, just give him your login credentials.


 

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Originally Posted by BlueBattler View Post
If talks are over, then I'd like to know what caused them to fail ...
If talks have failed, it's because NCSoft wasn't negotiating in good faith to begin with.

Which, in my mind, thinks it's knives time.

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Nope. Better to sever ties with these a-hats and start over someplace green. What we still need to do is throw our support behind 'Formerly Known as Paragon Studios' and show them we want a future with a quality superhero MMO made by them in it.
If NCsoft can be made to fail somehow, the IP could be recovered from its smoking wreckage. I don't know how this could be done atm, but it's what my vigilante side wants.


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Not surprised, but I did my grieving when the first announcement came down. Goodbye CoH, it's been an excellent run. Drat, I was looking forward to I24 too :/

When I get a chance, I'll have to post a thread with all the CoH memorabilia I've accumulated, just as one last hurrah. Will have to wait after I move into our new house though.


 

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Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
That doesn't destroy your stuff, just give him your login credentials.
From what I've heard about Guild Wars 2's account security, a few hundred people probably have that info already anyway.


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Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane View Post
NC had zero reason to budge on the IP because all they'd be doing is enabling a competitor.
Y'know, I've heard that argument a lot, but I've never bought it because there are only 2 other superhero MMOs out there, and one of them was effectively fostered by NCSoft when they bought the IP for City of Heroes from Cryptic who immediately left to make Champions Online. And NCSoft (like just about every other MMO publisher out there) subscribes to the "fantasy games make up 85% of the MMO market so any other genre ain't worth spit" mindset.
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They didn't want the game being saved and they don't want anyone else to have it.
Ah, now THAT'S an argument I can whoelheartedly get behind. NCSoft (like no other publisher out there) seem to have this utterly bizarre "scorched earth" policy when it comes to MMOs. Hell, even SOE keeps an ancient game like Everquest going, with updates still!

NCSoft have always come across to me like the wannabe kid in the playground - they big themselves up, but when something doesn't go their way, they act like whatever it is never happened, because if it never happened it can't make them look bad, right?

Wrong...


 

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Me: What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
That was the Japanese. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. The Germans bombed London.

With that corrected, I'm not surprised by this announcement. As I always live by, expect the worst but hope for the best. Well, the worst has happened. But don't give up.

This is just an incentive to make even MORE noise.

Shout at them now. Shout until your lungs can't take anymore, then shout some more.

Also, I wouldn't put all my hopes into an emulator. With as petty and selfish as NCSoft has shown itself so far, it'll slap down a C&D on that emulator in no time flat.


 

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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man View Post
From what I've heard about Guild Wars 2's account security, a few hundred people probably have that info already anyway.
If you're on the internet, you can hear that about every single site's security.


 

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That was the Japanese. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. The Germans bombed London.
That's actually a quote from a movie.


 

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That was the Japanese. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. The Germans bombed London.
Ahem...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQtU_fYe6gE

meme stuff, see - Teh Interwebs is full of it


 

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That was the Japanese. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. The Germans bombed London.
"Germans?"

"Forget it, he's rolling."

Animal House


 

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That was the Japanese. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. The Germans bombed London.

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You haven't watched Animal House I assume: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI


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Ahem...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQtU_fYe6gE

meme stuff, see - Teh Interwebs is full of it
In his defense though, the only that is more prevalent on the Internet than memes is people being completely and utterly wrong.


 

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Originally Posted by Katze View Post
You haven't watched Animal House I assume:
Indeed.

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In his defense though, the only that is more prevalent on the Internet than memes is people being completely and utterly wrong.
This. I've seen people spew rather laughable historical inaccuracies and actually believed them.


 

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Originally Posted by Hercules View Post
Trying to find GW2 in my list of programs to uninstall & dont see it. How do you uninstall this game?
You don't, NCsoft cancels it.