NCSoft's Official Response to Us
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Acroyear2,
Posted on: 2012-10-02 13:55 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
If we keep getting the word out about what happened to COh through social media we MIGHT be able to put a little dent int heir projected numbers for Blade and Soul.
At the least I'd love to show them they can't feed us another sword and sorcercy pile of **** to replace COH.
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Yes but what about those games that didnt make it that long and no longer among us?
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Originally Posted by Hercules View Post
Trying to find GW2 in my list of programs to uninstall & dont see it. How do you uninstall this game?
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Haha! +1!
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Originally Posted by Another_Fan
You don't, NCsoft cancels it.
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That's not the issue—plenty of MMOs have made it only a few years before being shut down for various reasons (usually financial, of course). Such games include Asheron's Call 2, Lego Universe, and The Sims Online, to name only a few. NCSoft, as we all know, has a significant number among them for just one publisher. |
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Yes but what about those games that didnt make it that long and no longer among us?
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This, however, is a case of a long-time MMO being abruptly and arbitrarily sunsetted, even while it was generating a solid profit. There isn't exactly a huge number of MMORPG games as old as CoH to begin with, but those in that group tend to have stood the test of time.
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Actually, the last time NCSoft made any money off of me was August 31. Not because I refused to give them any more, but because they stopped charging me for the only game they had that I had any interest in. |
Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
I have absolutely no desire to play any of their games again.
It's not about "hurting" NCSoft...I just refuse to help them. |
I almost was interested in Wildstar and I might still be... if NCSoft weren't behind it.
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
That's not the issueplenty of MMOs have made it only a few years before being shut down for various reasons (usually financial, of course). Such games include Asheron's Call 2, Lego Universe, and The Sims Online. NCSoft, as we all know, has a significant number among them for just one publisher.
This, however, is a case of a long-time MMO being abruptly and arbitrarily sunsetted, even while it was generating a solid profit. There isn't exactly a huge number of MMORPG games as old as CoH to begin with, but those in that group tend to have stood the test of time. |
If are going to approach in this manner, maybe we should make sure that Paragon Studios in itself was raking in a profit and COX was not mere collateral damage. This may have already been done.
Then it's time to decide what approach is proper without coming off as being soley ticked off about them not selling the IP or the negotiations failing. I know that isnt what it's about but if it comes off in that manner then it will be dismissed as "Oh they are just gamers. There is no way we can expect them to know about buisness. Pay them no mind. Send out another message that says we are listening to to them and taking their opinion into consideration so they can shut up."
The approach must make them go "Hmmm." And while people may be angry and want to get back at them, and stick it to The Man, it wont help besides coming off as raging lunatics that probabaly would make them not want to bother with the community and make their decision stick even more so and feel even better about their decision. There is a thin line between coming off as passionate about something and really want them to listen and coming off as a bunch of raging lunatics that cant be reasoned with either way.
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Originally Posted by mauk2
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That is their PR dept trying to get the CoH player community to stop making waves over the shutdown of the game. Don't buy into it. They want us to be quiet because we are drawing attention to their poor business decision to close down a game that has a strong player base and is making money. Keep fighting. It's not over yet.
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They paid Cryptic some amount of money for CoH, and they've spent millions of dollars on salaries for the last few years. That's a huge investment, one that's worth a lot of money as a loss on their taxes.|
Originally Posted by cursedsorcerer
That's what they say. What's the truth? NOBODY wants a great, albeit old game with a fanatically loyal fanbase? Nobody wants $$$$???? I don't have to give my $$$$ if nobody wants it.
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I'm no expert on tax law, but I'm guessing that if they take a total loss on the game they can value it at whatever number they need to reduce their US taxes to zero.
If, on the other hand, they sell it for some paltry amount, that gives it a value, and that could mean they'll have to pay US taxes.
With all that cash rolling in from sales of GW2, they need a huge loss in fiscal 2012 to avoid a massive tax bill.
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Originally Posted by Acroyear2
That is their PR dept trying to get the CoH player community to stop making waves over the shutdown of the game. Don't buy into it. They want us to be quiet because we are drawing attention to their poor business decision to close down a game that has a strong player base and is making money. Keep fighting. It's not over yet.
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And Rodion,
That sounds about as plausible as anything, or at least it sounds like something that could have easily factored into their decision. And if Glassdoor.com is to be believed, NCSoft's usual reaction to any situation is a knee-jerk "Kill you NOW!"
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This, right here.
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Originally Posted by jwbullfrog
Actually, the last time NCSoft made any money off of me was August 31. Not because I refused to give them any more, but because they stopped charging me for the only game they had that I had any interest in.
I almost was interested in Wildstar and I might still be... if NCSoft weren't behind it. |
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I never believed that any negotiations were being conducted in good faith in the first place, at least on NC's part.| Really? You'd rather be left believing that negotiations were still ongoing? |
Talking about it meant NC's drones had to shovel the usual we're-so-sorry codswallop, which everyone saw through instantaneously because anyone my age or older has been inundated by it all our lives. All that statement did was dial the h8 up to h9.
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I knew NC wouldn't budge on CoH, no matter what we did. They've done it before, and they'll do it again (im looking at you GW1 gamers). Of course we can't forget what they did to Richard Garret and Tabula Rasa, forging his signature, making him lose millions just to dump a game they didn't want. Heck, you could probably offer NC 50 mil, and they wouldn't take it. CoH, Tabula, Exteel, Auto Assault... NC does indeed hold the title of 'Destroyer of Worlds' .
Look, I will admit next to the next person that CoH was showing its age, for the past month I have been choking this area's bandwidth downloading other MMO's to try out, and some of them are simply beauitful, next to the grey lackluster zones like Kings Row, though I would consider Praetoria up to par, but making the rest of the game look like that would be a huge effort.
But where it counted, CoH was solid, on NO other game have I found teaming as easy to follow as on CoH.
Having said that, there is no excuse for what they did and how they did it. Put me in the boat of not giving NC another cent of my money, I'm sure if I get involved in ANY other game like CoH, it'll just be taken away again.
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Andy Belford is looking for a job, while anonymous NCSoft reps still get a paycheck.
Very sad.
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Who is Andy Belford?
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Originally Posted by Kyuuen
Andy Belford is looking for a job, while anonymous NCSoft reps still get a paycheck.
Very sad. |
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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yea, they just did what they normally did, about what 4-5 times already. |
Originally Posted by kangaroo120y
I knew NC wouldn't budge on CoH, no matter what we did. They've done it before, and they'll do it again (im looking at you GW1 gamers). Of course we can't forget what they did to Richard Garret and Tabula Rasa, forging his signature, making him lose millions just to dump a game they didn't want. Heck, you could probably offer NC 50 mil, and they wouldn't take it. CoH, Tabula, Exteel, Auto Assault... NC does indeed hold the title of 'Destroyer of Worlds' .
Look, I will admit next to the next person that CoH was showing its age, for the past month I have been choking this area's bandwidth downloading other MMO's to try out, and some of them are simply beauitful, next to the grey lackluster zones like Kings Row, though I would consider Praetoria up to par, but making the rest of the game look like that would be a huge effort. But where it counted, CoH was solid, on NO other game have I found teaming as easy to follow as on CoH. Having said that, there is no excuse for what they did and how they did it. Put me in the boat of not giving NC another cent of my money, I'm sure if I get involved in ANY other game like CoH, it'll just be taken away again. Now, TonyV... about those private servers... |
Not sure how private servers will work without the IP (maybe someone can explain) and without getting sued and or shutdown.
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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Correct! And that brings you to the lead.
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Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Who is Andy Belford?
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@Kyuu
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What's even sadder is how willing you are to hate on someone who had less to do with the closure than Andy did.
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Originally Posted by Kyuuen
Andy Belford is looking for a job, while anonymous NCSoft reps still get a paycheck.
Very sad. |
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Are you an NCSoft sock-puppet?
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Originally Posted by Brillig
What's even sadder is how willing you are to hate on someone who had less to do with the closure than Andy did.
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Ah yes, there's more of that wonderful CoH community spirit everyone talks about.
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Originally Posted by RosaQuartz
Are you an NCSoft sock-puppet?
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Nothing wrong with my community spirit, it's a serious question. What do you have to gain from spreading negativity into every. single. thread. people post about their reaction to this?|
Originally Posted by Brillig
Ah yes, there's more of that wonderful CoH community spirit everyone talks about.
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I guess you could just be trolling, but I actually hope you're getting paid for this.
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Disagree.
Zwill did a much better job during a similar situation.
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Originally Posted by RosaQuartz
Nothing wrong with my community spirit, it's a serious question. What do you have to gain from spreading negativity into every. single. thread. people post about their reaction to this?
I guess you could just be trolling, but I actually hope you're getting paid for this. |
"Sock puppet." "Serious question."
You're the troll here.
(No I'm not suggesting this.)