False Hope

I won't give up. Even if they close the servers I won't give up. That's not what a hero does.

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

The only false hope I've seen anyone give is the whole chinese-fortune-teller act we're getting in some of the threads that have so far amounted to bunk.

But the media campaign? That's not false hope. All that's trying to do is raise awareness, and since the word IS getting out there, then that's a success.

The programming work the Titan folks are doing to at least put up an emulation of the game? That's not false either. They are hard at work.

So really, put your shoulder to this stone with us and start rolling, or at least stand back and pass out water.

We're going to go down kicking and screaming. If we do enough kicking and screaming on the way down, we might just make someone notice. Hopefully that someone or an associated someone will pull us back up. If not, at least we didn't just give up; we tried. We can't be sure that anything we do will work, but we CAN be sure that doing nothing will not work.

I won't be tossing my realist hat in the trash but I've not seen any false hope thrown around either.

The work being done by the likes of TonyV, Codewalker and everyone else at Titan deserves respect regardless of the outcome.

There's nothing wrong with fighting for something you love.

Sometimes, the truth isn't good enough.
Sometimes, people deserve more.
Sometimes, people deserve to have their faith rewarded.

And I'll be damned if I give up that "false hope" before the servers really do shut down for good.

Don't step in our Corn Flakes, man.

Better to Have False hope then no hope at all, what matters is if we try.

As long I still got my friend I met in Coh, Philly Girl, Zephyr Deathblade, Markus Windstorm, Bloo Bah Doo and Allastor Darkflame, a part of Coh will live and we will take this part with us too the next game we will play together.

In game terms, the AV has insane regen, we've just team wiped, the mission timer is running down, any rez is on a long recharge, and we're all out of Shivans - but the Insps tray isn't quite empty yet, and some of us are going to try popping a few of those before we open the menu and press "Q".

"Hope" is the belief that something can happen given the understanding that it might not. If you firmly believe that something will happen, that's not "hope", that's conviction. When people have "hope", they realize that the outcome they want to see may not come to pass. Hopes that are not realized are not "false hopes". They're just hope that didn't pan out.

"False hope" is hope for something that is almost certain to not happen, or predicated on fantasy. Some of the folks on the forums are showing what I would consider false hope. I consider the odds of the game being lifted and shifted, as-is, to another publisher pretty damn unlikely. I don't accept that it's impossible, but it's not something I want to get excited about, because it seems too likely to be a let down in the end.

Some of the other things that seem to be going on feel, on the face of things, a lot less improbable. Getting the community to work on tools that will let us export characters, or even build CoH server emulators? That seems possible. Hard, maybe not available for some time to come, but possible. Ideal? No. Would it be CoH as we know it today? No, not exactly. But for a lot of people here, it might be close enough to be worthwhile.

I think there's value in trying to keep people's expectations reasonable. I certainly don't accept that doing so requires us to timidly accept the end date set before us. Realism and fatalism are not the same thing.

Excellent post, Uber and agree 100%. For what that's worth

I don't see this "false hope" you're going on about. I think we're all savvy enough to know that there is little chance that 3 months from now the game will not be over. However, there are some people here with the skills, ability, or contacts to try. I doubt that anyone is unaware that it's a longshot, but despite that it's one I'd be trying for, too, if I had any skills to do so.

It make seem contradictory, but it's really not. Take my money for COH or face a boycott, NCSoft. There are no other choices, I now wouldn't play GW2 if it was given to me for free.

To the OP,
False hope? You have played in a heroic universe for this long and you have learned nothing.

This is the most heroic struggle of all: to save something we love from certain doom.

One of my favorite movies is Tangled. In the narration that sets up the story, the pregnant queen is very sick, dying.

"And that's the point people go looking for a miracle."

That's how I view what people are doing. Looking for a miracle. And sometimes, miracles happen.

When someone in game says "C'mon, if we just work together we can beat this, we can do this" - that is spreading false hope, because odds are we can't. But the people who have been pursuing the alternatives have been very realistic about the probabilities (and doing the smart thing by not putting all their eggs in one basket, or even in the "game is saved" basket by creating things for exporting characters).

So yeah, they're looking for a miracle. Sometimes, people who go looking for a miracle find one.

At lease if we all work together and try, we might get something out of this at the end.

Ncsoft will notice and say hey!, There might be money made on this after all and decided to Continue the game, Decided to make Coh 2 or sell the game to another Company.

As long as we try, we will get something out of this at the end, it might be a small reward or a big one.

Not to be a complete Doom 'n gloom, but asides from some MMOs being emulated, are there ANY relevant examples of a game such as this one being salvaged once its parent company decides to shut it down?

Do nothing, the game ends.
Do something, the game ends.

What's it matter to the do nothing crowd that some do something? They'll get their way at no cost to themselves either way. If the do something crowd manages to pull something off then they'll still have a game to play, if not they get to laugh at the people who spent time and resources in a vain attempt to challenge the inevitable fate handed to the game.

Thank you op for having the courage to tell it like it is. Here's how it was put to me not so very long ago (the context was more development for bases):

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Originally Posted by DarkGob If you're honestly not mentally prepared for not getting a certain thing in a video game, then maybe the issue doesn't lie with the game. You call yourself a reasonable person with reasonable expectations but neither of those things seem to be the case. Do yourself a favor and take a big step back and go watch Tropic Thunder.

All the king's horses...

To the OP:
If we were doing Incarnate missions in Dark Astoria, you'd be the hero on the team that got devoured by Mot's mouth. The rest of the team would continue to fight him.

I realize there are plenty other threads/links for "saving CoH." Here is what I'm doing:

My response to the decision to shut CoH down will be simply that I as a consumer make a statement with my wallet and mouth. If a developer does something you don’t like, don’t give them your money, and let them know exactly why in a civilized manner. Marketers are people just like us, who need a decent amount of feedback in order to know why/what players are dissatisfied over. So aside from boycotting with your wallet please take a little time, a stamp/envelop, and write a letter to these people. It’s not enough to post on fb or elsewhere in the hope the powers that be see and take it as serious than as if their offices are slammed with real mail opposing this decision.
The phrase “at this time” is a back door to allowing a company to do a complete one hundred eighty degree turn on their policy at some point in the future. The safe route imo would be to let the company(ies) involved know just how many people are affected by this decision (which would equate to a potential loss of revenue). I would state something to the affect, “at this time I will no longer spend any monies on any game developed by X company unless CoH is brought off the chopping block and back to life. As you are well aware, there are tens of thousands of MMOs on the market with new ones popping up daily from which to choose. CoH in and of itself was turning a profit but due to lack of farsight a bad business decision was made to end it.
I hope you seriously reconsider your decision to end CoH as it is a unique and highly popular MMORPG.
If they receive "thousands" of letters the impact would hit them "square in the face." imo