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I played DCUO a great deal during beta. There were things I really liked about it (in particular, it presents a city environment that's far more impressive than the other two superhero MMOs), but I found the characters to be too fragile for my liking in the long run (I had a similar issue with Champions). I may find myself giving it and/or Champions Online another try when the superhero bug bites me. Both games are more action-oriented than CoH. I'm not sure I can take playing Champions again, though... I still have nightmares about shutting down ALL of the beacons because they're transmitting a high frequency signal that drives the Qularr insane... *twitch*

TERA (it's an acronym for The Exiled Realms of Arborea, I believe) is a fantasy action MMO. It actually works by default with the XBOX 360 and PS3 controllers. The advancement in it is pretty smooth and quick and I personally enjoy the combat, though the instanced dungeons can be difficult. It's the only fantasy MMO that I've ever advanced a character near the level cap, and I may be playing it for another month or two at least. It's not perfect, by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm having fun with it. Alas, though, their forums (not the community but the forums themselves) are terrible.
TERA's forums are terrible because they allow anyone to register an post in them :/

Tera's teaming is terrible unless you team with a regular person. My suggestion, you have your dedicated team characters for when all in the team are on (that's 5 people max) and your solo character.

Dedicated team is for all sticking with all the same quests.

Face detail sliders are top notch! Can't do anything with the body. Now able to keep the look of the armor/weapon you love, without losing it to top gear.

Tera very much feels like a solo game unless you do the dedicated team.

Combat is fun. Artstyle is great.

Personally, I love the game for everything except it's teaming, which most people only seem to do for dungeons.


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TERA's forums are terrible because they allow anyone to register an post in them :/
My issues with it have nothing to do with the community, and everything to do with its user-unfriendliness. Among other things, I just tried to log in from work and it wanted me to verify the device via email that I can only access from home.

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Tera's teaming is terrible unless you team with a regular person. My suggestion, you have your dedicated team characters for when all in the team are on (that's 5 people max) and your solo character.

Dedicated team is for all sticking with all the same quests.
City of Heroes is the only MMO I've ever felt comfortable falling into PUGs, so the teaming in TERA isn't much of an issue for me. I have a few real-life friends that I have been regularly playing with, and I've found the team combat to be fun (and occasionally necessary) with a few exceptions.

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Personally, I love the game for everything except it's teaming, which most people only seem to do for dungeons.
Dungeons can be rough. To put them into CoH perspective, it's basically like an instance where you fight numerous groups of 2-4 fairly tough Elite Bosses (often spawned rather closely to other groups), occasionally some groups of 5-30 Lieutenants, and often some AV or GM fights with crazy attacks that can almost instantly wipe the entire 5-person party some of whom continually spawn those large groups of Lieutenants. Oh, and you have no mez protection so when the dragon stuns everybody and you try to get close enough to un-mez your tank your priest ends up stunned as well and that's why you shouldn't meddle in the affairs of dragons. Yet, despite these hardships (and anyone familiar with my tendencies around here knows how much I loathe difficulty) I still enjoy the game.

However, I'm concerned that TERA may not be a viable choice for much longer. Apparently, they're merging servers on September 18th. Mind you, I was uncertain how long I'd be playing the game for anyway - it's fun, but it can't keep stringing me along for several years via gratuitous variety that feeds into my altitis (nor keep me engaged with forums) so I imagine I'd be playing it for a few months at most anyway.


Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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Personally, I love the game for everything except it's teaming, which most people only seem to do for dungeons.
I tried TERA for a seven-day trial. Then my berserker got her first armour upgrade and I was like... no. I can't do this, it's just too silly.

Sorry!


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I tried TERA for a seven-day trial. Then my berserker got her first armour upgrade and I was like... no. I can't do this, it's just too silly.

Sorry!
You rolled a Castantic, didn't you? You know, the race of basically succubus.

You should of rolled human if you couldn't accept a race that wore little.


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I dunno about Slaunyeh, but I did roll a human, and still didn't like the armor (never did manage to find even one that looked like it might plausibly be intended as armor). It wasn't the main thing that made me choose to stop after the first month, but it was a factor. I know most of the players over there love the art style, but it wasn't for me.

CO, for all its flaws, is still the game closest in spirit to most of my favorite things about CoH, at least that I've seen. So I'll probably be spending some time there. I had already bought GW2 before the fateful announcement, so I might as well put some extra strain on their servers and that's where my friends seem to be going. I'm tentatively looking forward to the Marvel Heroes game, but that's still a ways off. Other than that... eh, I dunno. Anybody got some suggestions for very "team-optional" MMOs? I like playing with a group, but I also like being able to do meaningful stuff without a group, and especially without an extensive web of in-game social obligations.


 

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Fantastic news! I can recommend Arcadia (not that "server" selection really matters).
I'm BelleStarr on Arcadia server. Celestial Lord had trouble friending me for some reason (said that the character showed up as Illuminati, offline, Leviathan) but he did track me down quickly, so.

I am a bit annoyed that I couldn't work out how to put spaces in my nickname, but eh. I am a gun-toting Belle Starr now.


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You rolled a Castantic, didn't you? You know, the race of basically succubus.

You should of rolled human if you couldn't accept a race that wore little.
Casatanic are the elfies with horns? No, that's the one I didn't roll. Actually I rolled a human, a high elf and an, uhm, the big stone-like ones. Aman I think. The high elf and Aman outfits were ridiculous. The human I don't remember. I don't think my human gal wore heavy armour, so her outfit might not have been as revealing (ironically).

Seemed like a well-crafted game though, platemail thongs aside.


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"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."

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I'm BelleStarr on Arcadia server. Celestial Lord had trouble friending me for some reason (said that the character showed up as Illuminati, offline, Leviathan) but he did track me down quickly, so.

I am a bit annoyed that I couldn't work out how to put spaces in my nickname, but eh. I am a gun-toting Belle Starr now.
Nothing wrong with showing up as Illuminati!

I'll keep an eye out (tee-hee, I almost missed that pun).


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"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."

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If there is, I want to know about it, too. Oh, but it also has to include:
  • Mac-compatible. Specifically, three-year-old low-end Mac laptop compatible.

You'd think, with all the dozens upon dozens of MMOs that have come out in the near-decade since CoH launched, at least ONE game would have followed in its footsteps. But apparently not.

They're all grindy WoW or Maplestory clones, where your only choices for character appearance are "look and play just like everyone else" or "get mocked for not being just like everyone else."
I'm in this boat.

Cursory search on Mac MMOs gives This

So there's a few fantasy ones, the 800 lbs gorilla (that I have tried an hated), and 2 space ones. I may well try a space one since I really don't have any interest in a fantasy MMO. After trying WoW and DDO, I'm simply not interested. I've heard things about EVE Online which make me want to avoid it, so I think I might give Vendetta Online a shot though I will likely look up more opinions on it first. Looks like it might be rather PvP oriented and I can do without that.


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My issues with it have nothing to do with the community, and everything to do with its user-unfriendliness. Among other things, I just tried to log in from work and it wanted me to verify the device via email that I can only access from home.



City of Heroes is the only MMO I've ever felt comfortable falling into PUGs, so the teaming in TERA isn't much of an issue for me. I have a few real-life friends that I have been regularly playing with, and I've found the team combat to be fun (and occasionally necessary) with a few exceptions.



Dungeons can be rough. To put them into CoH perspective, it's basically like an instance where you fight numerous groups of 2-4 fairly tough Elite Bosses (often spawned rather closely to other groups), occasionally some groups of 5-30 Lieutenants, and often some AV or GM fights with crazy attacks that can almost instantly wipe the entire 5-person party some of whom continually spawn those large groups of Lieutenants. Oh, and you have no mez protection so when the dragon stuns everybody and you try to get close enough to un-mez your tank your priest ends up stunned as well and that's why you shouldn't meddle in the affairs of dragons. Yet, despite these hardships (and anyone familiar with my tendencies around here knows how much I loathe difficulty) I still enjoy the game.

However, I'm concerned that TERA may not be a viable choice for much longer. Apparently, they're merging servers on September 18th. Mind you, I was uncertain how long I'd be playing the game for anyway - it's fun, but it can't keep stringing me along for several years via gratuitous variety that feeds into my altitis (nor keep me engaged with forums) so I imagine I'd be playing it for a few months at most anyway.
Yeah, I read that on Tera's main site and went wtf?
They're making new servers for pve and pvp while leaving the rp server alone. The new servers sound like they're fairly robust machines to handle the load, plus all the zones, except for possibly the Nexus zones, will have multiple channels. I'm not crying 'doom' just yet because I knew mergers were inevitable at some point.

I enjoy the game and love the combat, but the 'gear score snobs' really chafe my hide some days. Yes, I PuG a lot because my work schedule doesn't fit in with most dungeon progression groups schedules.

Tera album If this link works, here are a few of my screen shots from the game on 3 of my characters....Nahri- 60 Elin Mystic = Sychel- 33 Elin Priest = Tyann- 60 Aman Lancer.
I have more but haven't taken the time to go through them and upload them. I do have a Castanic Sorcerer, but it's still on noob island.

After this weekends announcement, I decided to install the copy of GW2 that I won and dabble around in it. It's ok, but it's, in my opinion, not as good as it was hyped up to be and there are already decked out level 80's running around.


 

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Rift actively fixes reported problems running Rift in emulation (WINE, etc.), so I understand it's at least semi-playable on a Mac, obviously moreso with stuff like parallells or bootcamp. I know there are people playing DDO and LotRO with Wine, although I don't know how well.


 

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Nothing wrong with showing up as Illuminati!

I'll keep an eye out (tee-hee, I almost missed that pun).
Turns out the name I gave him was BelleStar, even though it's spelled correctly on my character (BelleStarr).

I am glad that the person who went for that name first misspelled it. Now I get to be the gunslinger named after the female Jesse James.


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I'm in this boat.

Cursory search on Mac MMOs gives This

So there's a few fantasy ones, the 800 lbs gorilla (that I have tried an hated), and 2 space ones. I may well try a space one since I really don't have any interest in a fantasy MMO. After trying WoW and DDO, I'm simply not interested. I've heard things about EVE Online which make me want to avoid it, so I think I might give Vendetta Online a shot though I will likely look up more opinions on it first. Looks like it might be rather PvP oriented and I can do without that.
I've tried Eve Online...

It was spreadsheets in SPACE!, IMO.

Far, far, far too much micromanaging and lookups. It felt like a second job (or first in my case).



 

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I've tried Eve Online...

It was spreadsheets in SPACE!, IMO.

Far, far, far too much micromanaging and lookups. It felt like a second job (or first in my case).
I went through a phase of going around trying numerous MMOs, and out of every MMO (heck, every game *period*) I've ever played, EVE Online was by far the most tediously boring. Couple that with the fact that the game is essentially about socio-political-PVP of the most despicably cutthroat variety and EVE Online gets the number one spot on my list of Worst Games Ever.


Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound

 

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My main beef with DCUO was that it didn't understand what a hero was and simply crossed out "Paladin" and wrote in "Superhero." Having to buy things and deal with item degradation and the boringly obvious static world simply overwhelmed the cool travel powers and awesome locations. I admit that I was stunned and thrilled when I got to the space station, but the gameplay just didn't do it for me.
The lack of depth to character customization will probably turn off a lot of CoH players too. But I never really got the feeling that DCUO ever intended to recreate the superhero experience; not like CoH (or even CO) anyway. It seems built more for "hey you ever want to fight alongside Batman, or buddy up with Lex Luthor? Here's you chance!" It comes off more like a 3rd person fighter game with a version of the DCU as a backstory.

I think the two things that really bug me is the 4th string, Ace the Bathound's errand-boy feel, and the fact that if you sneeze you obliterate every inanimate object in a 50ft radius. And that's if you're a non-powered hero like me.


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I went through a phase of going around trying numerous MMOs, and out of every MMO (heck, every game *period*) I've ever played, EVE Online was by far the most tediously boring. Couple that with the fact that the game is essentially about socio-political-PVP of the most despicably cutthroat variety and EVE Online gets the number one spot on my list of Worst Games Ever.
Yeah, this is basically what I've heard so I'm not willing to even try it. Sounds like pure grief.


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Lol I don't think anyone even mentioned FFXIV....uh ten plus...five minus...yeah XIV.

I've been watching posted vids of lots of games that released in the past year and a half that I completely lost track of (omg Zelda Skyward Sword released last year!? Man I'm really disconnected >_>) Frankly...FFXIV looks exactly like FFXI...except they pissed me off by renaming all the races (the exact same races) with names I can't pronounce...what was wrong with Mithra, Hume, Galka, Elvaan and Tarutaru? Now it's Miqo'te, Hyur, Ryogadyn(?), Elezen and Lalaffel.

Now you try and remember which name goes to what (hint, they're the same order I named the FFXI races). At least with the original names, you could tell. Of course, a hume is a human. Galka sounds like it's a synonym of Bulk which fits with the big guys. Elvaan is just a mispelling of Elven. Tarutaru is just cute like the weird little toddler race...you got me on Mithra, that name isn't quite descriptive of catgirls...but the new names are like...I can't even pronounce half of them without making myself sound like an idiot.

And I don't even think the plot even relates to FFXI in any way despite it *LOOKING EXACTLY THE SAME!!* I mean, the world structure, some of the mobs, the style, the characters and much of the system is the same so *WHY* not tie it into FFXI which had a pretty epic and interesting plot (if you managed to keep up with it over the many quests it was spread out over) and awesome characters.

That aside, I hear the story of XIV isn't terrible which is good and they're slated for a major update in a few months or early next year that overhauls their graphics, UI, maps and varies their content. Since launch, they revamped their combat system to be more intuitive and interesting and they'll be updating to add more races (namely a 'Male Mithra' among a couple of others...I was always more interested in playing a catboi vs a catgirl since XI).

Along with the revamp of the combat system, they also added the job system back into the game (no clue why SquareEnix strayed away from the part of their game that was done right) so you can play your Bards, your Paladins, your Blackmages and so on.

All in all, it heralds back to the old-style MMO with your tank, healer and DD. I don't particularly find that a problem in FF games primarily because of the job system. Sure, you're always going to want a healer and always a tank but anyone can take a healer or tank profession and level it...in fact, it's encouraged so you can vary your abilities to enable you to solo things (because you're not going to solo well on a pure DD character unless you have defenses or healing spells). It also lets you connect with your character vs just making a billion alts so you can experience all the different content. Nah, you can do everything (unless it's race specific I guess) with just the 1 character. You can become synonymous with that one character and that's the other point of FF MMOs that I find their strength.

Come the holidays around Nov-Jan, I'll have free time to play games and I'm hoping to get a chance to jump into the beta if only to see if there's any improvement over the original at all. I doubt it, but you never know...


 

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For some reason, I couldn't keep away from FFXI. And I actually hated the game. But every time an expansion came out, I found myself in line with it at some store.

The missus and I tried out Everquest 2 over the Labor day weekend. It had been years since I played the game (I actually cancelled it to start playing CoH - sunrise, sunset I guess).

I was not having it. I just couldn't get into it. I even started to download the original Everquest, but I fear that is more nostalgia than actual desire to play.

I still maintain a freebie DCUO account on the PS3. I really dug playing the game. It felt easy enough on a controller and I was leveling up fantastically. Add in the ability to run around Gotham's East End and I'm sold. I haven't really played it much since I moved in July but I guess it's better time than ever.

And I'm still looking at a stack of PS3 titles. Mass Effect 2 and 3, Jak and Daxter Collection, unplayed copy of Starhawk. Among others. Lots of do.

But as for my MMO fix, I finally decided to give WoW a real chance. Maybe it's the sting of losing CoH, but I didn't want to pick up another game that has a remote chance of being canned in the next year.


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Mass Effect 2 on Insanity is horrible. Just...horrible. Be sure to look up some of the buggy areas/glitches for dealing with stuff like the YMIR mechs or the Scions.

For DCUO on PC, can you manage to work an xbox controller into it?



 

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But as for my MMO fix, I finally decided to give WoW a real chance. Maybe it's the sting of losing CoH, but I didn't want to pick up another game that has a remote chance of being canned in the next year.
With the closing of CoH, I have a feeling CO will see an influx in profits, to likely keep it going for over a year, if you want to go that route.


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Mass Effect 2 on Insanity is horrible. Just...horrible. Be sure to look up some of the buggy areas/glitches for dealing with stuff like the YMIR mechs or the Scions.

For DCUO on PC, can you manage to work an xbox controller into it?
I tried way back when the game first came out, but couldn't get it to work. I recall there being a way to do it, but it didn't work for me. Maybe it does now, I'd have to check.


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With the closing of CoH, I have a feeling CO will see an influx in profits, to likely keep it going for over a year, if you want to go that route.
I decided to download CO just to see how it compared, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. For the free version at least, costume and power customization seem severely limited. Does anyone know if paying for a subscription measurably improves these aspects?


 

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I decided to download CO just to see how it compared, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. For the free version at least, costume and power customization seem severely limited. Does anyone know if paying for a subscription measurably improves these aspects?
When you create your first character, the costume selections are very limited. What you do is play your first character to ten and visit the tailor (I think) and you'll unlock a lot more options.

Gold membership unlocks even more costume selections. Gold membership also allows you to change the power colors and sometimes emission points. Power customization also happens in-game, not in the tailor.


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Gold membership also allows you to make freeform characters rather than be stuck with an Archetype, allowing you to mix and match powers from all sets.


Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound