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Word on the street is CoX died because of licensing issues with Cryptic. I'm not going anywhere near CO. I'd play GW2 first.
No evidence of it, far as I've read. The evidence that CoH was just not profitable is far more convincing.


 

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Word on the street is CoX died because of licensing issues with Cryptic. I'm not going anywhere near CO. I'd play GW2 first.
Word on the street doesn't mean anything. There's numerous rumours floating around. CoH wasn't making money, GW2 is opening up and they wanted to get rid of CoH to make players join GW2 and make it successful, licensing issues with other companies (this one I hadn't read until you mentioned it)... Nobody knows the truth apart from NCsoft, and I doubt they're going to tell us the truth any time soon.



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Champions (the pen and paper RPG) is coming out with a new version this fall. It's a shorter, streamlined version of their main rules. That's a nice bonus if you are thinking of getting into it since you won't need the multiple books to start off.

If you do hang out on their forums, say "hi" on the forums, I hang out there.

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Or, you can give 3rd Edition Mutants and Masterminds a try. In my opinion, it is the most adaptable role playing system that I have ever seen. There's even a Hero labs program for using the system, which makes it extremely easy to make characters and such. Give it a look.

After November, I think I will split my time between SWTOR and Secret World. SWTOR has a dynamic combat system that feels similar to CoH and the story/companion aspect is pretty interesting, Bioware just needs to decide what direction they plan to take the game. Secret World is in its infantcy, however, it is fun to play despite some game bugs and such. They're both worth a try.

As sad as this all is, I doubt there will ever be a game that captures the imagination and fosters the community that City of Heroes and Paragon Studios has done here. I have been here since June 04 and it has been my home away from home for all of that time. I think I'll miss flying and the Champion community the most. If this is how NCSoft is going to treat us, then I will have nothing to do with them from here on out, since they have shown no regard for the players that have supported them here all of this time.

It's pretty crappy how they have given the Dev team the boot (Yes, even the chia-heads in marketing) and I hope all of you land on your feet. If you guys start up something new, I'll fight to be the first in line to give it a try.


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I have tried DCUO was bored pretty quickly, Champions Online; I did not like at all. I was playing LoTRO, was fun but after I got into the GW2 beta it seemed so slow to me I cant log into it, with out getting frustrated on the pace.

So right now I will be playing Guild Wars 2 even if I am mad at NCsoft I will support ArenaNet.

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I think I'll be moving to CO. But I'll be doing that when, and only when, the lights go out here for good.

I wouldn't even consider playing it otherwise.


 

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Originally Posted by General_CoH View Post
The evidence that CoH was just not profitable is far more convincing.
CoH is still profitable - if it wasn't, that would have been the reason they gave for the shutdown, not this vague "refocusing" stuff.


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I dont know where I'm going yet. My current plan is to play CoH some every day until November 30th. SGmates, who've now become RL friends, some of them now find even logging in painful and so won't. I appreciate where they are coming from, since it's bittersweet for me each time I log in to play a favorite character or arc, or AE. I might go back to Premium status Free to Play LOTRO, possibly even re-subscribing, or give Champions Online a chance - i liked the pen, paper, dice version but youtube showed me from the get-go that I preferred CoX. A couple of friends are suggesting the Secret World, and just about no one's recommending DCUO. I have until 11/30 to decide, until then I'm playing CoH/V. After that, I dont know.


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Considering that there is no real information on how it will play out (apart from that it will be similar to Ultima Online,) in that players will take up positions of power running cities... but apart from that, actual hard facts of the game are few and far between.

And to be honest, it does make sense to run the game world like Ultima Online, and not like City of Heroes.. especially as it *is* based on a game where player/player interaction is *very* important (unless you go for the hack/slash style of the tabletop... valid, but different).

Especially seeing as they also slashed the development team of the game to refocus themselves on Eve Online and Dust 514.
...Great, now I'm worried...

Well The Secret World it is for me then.



 

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...Great, now I'm worried...

Well The Secret World it is for me then.
The slashing of the development staff was because of Eve Online player backlash, especially considering that Eve Online was on semi shakey financial grounds.

Last I heard, they have increased the staffing levels up a bit (down from the couple of hundred that they had initially) but still "tight knit".

For me, I always had a view point that there would be PvP involved... however, i do believe that they would be *seriously* dumb to make it non consensual open world PvP...

*shrugs* As i said, it is still early days for the MMO really, and I honestly believe that CCP will try to make it the best that they can (and not as a themepark style MMO, but more of the sandbox MMO that it should be).


 

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CoH is still profitable - if it wasn't, that would have been the reason they gave for the shutdown, not this vague "refocusing" stuff.
I have to agree with GG, even Zwill said Freedom was not a failure , maybe Paragon was not making money hand over fist but it did not seem to be working in the red either.

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It seems that while CoH was profitable, it wasn't profitable enough to justify the server space that could be relocated to GW2.


 

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Hey Guys, I'm Pure American the leader of the Virtue Expatriates a former COH players league (SG) from DC Universe online. I just wanted to say how deeply saddened I am that my old friend COH is going away. I haven't played it in many months, my feelings for COH are sort of like an old girlfriend that you fell out of love with and split up with no hard feelings. I just wanted to extend to you guys how sorry I am that something we both enjoyed so much is closing it's doors for good. I miss all the good times I had pvping in RV and joking around talking trash, epic times. The best thing about COH is by far it's community and it's willingness to come together when it looks like something is impossible and pull out a win. The players are what makes COH great, and I hope you all find a game you can all enjoy and bring your great community spirit to. I am really big fan of DCUO now, and I hope you all give it a try and bring your good cheer over there with you.


 

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DCUO SUCKS

I've never been more disappointed in a game. How you can play that tiny, repetitive trashpile of a game is beyond me.



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I'm not really sure yet. I'm still holding out hope for a miracle until November 30, but assuming things stay on the morbid track they're on right now there's a couple of games I'm looking at.

I'd already bought Guild Wars 2 prior to this whole mess and I don't blame ArenaNet in any way so I'm sure I'll tinker in that game every now and then. Having taken a character to level 13 though, I can already tell that it won't replace CoH for me as my primary hobby. It's just casual fun that I can easily hop in and out of, particularly with the world events.

I'd played SWtOR with a good friend of mine (who recently came back to play CoH with me; she was the one who introduced me to this game in the first place almost 7 years ago, I think) not long ago. We'll probably both dust off a few characters to finish up some class stories once it goes free-to-play, but I have a hard time rationalizing spending money on that game either given the current state of the end-game. Maybe things will turn around, but I doubt this will be the MMO to grab me either.

The friend I mentioned earlier had mentioned some interest in Tera as well, and though I know very little about it aside from it being rather action-oriented, if she wants to give that a shot I probably will too. I don't know enough about it to really even have a preliminary guess as to how much I would like it though.

Then there's the Secret World. I figure I'll try out one of the free trials they seem to have going pretty frequently and see if it grabs me. In theory, I -love- the setting and the atmosphere that I imagine would come along with it. But will it have the hooks that I crave mechanically? I have no idea. But I want to give it a shot.

In the future, I'm keeping my eye on WildStar (yes, I know), Worlds of Darkness, and Phantasy Star Online 2. I have tried Champions Online and DCUO in the past, but Champions I just flat-out dislike largely because I can't stand the art style and DCUO just feels too repetitive to me even though I do appreciate the month that I spent with the game.

So ultimately I'm really undecided. Much of it depends on where my partner-in-gaming ends up (so long as it isn't WoW), but I certainly don't see myself getting engrossed in another MMO as deeply as I did CoH. I love, love, love numerous of my characters (and they'll be reborn elsewhere if need be in some incarnation) and was really proud of some of their builds, too. I absolutely adored playing around in Mids' and seeing what I could come up with.

Once the sting wears off, months and months from now, I'll probably open up Mids again and just mill around and reminisce. Like playing the game has been for me since the news, it'll be bittersweet but fun in its own way.

I hope to see some of you guys around, wherever I end up.


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DCUO SUCKS

I've never been more disappointed in a game. How you can play that tiny, repetitive trashpile of a game is beyond me.
Good luck, have fun


 

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Man, I'm definitely not going to Champions Online after this. I've spent the last hour or two playing it, and ...

Well, the costume creator is not only sparse (with I'd say at least 60-70% of the pieces locked in some way, either behind quests, in-game currency, or real cash moneys), but the options utterly baffling. I couldn't recreate even the most basic of my characters' appearances from CoH. My character has one robot arm because I got fed up and hit "Random", and there is now no way to NOT have a robot arm except to hit Random again (which I didn't want to do, since I like most of the costume). There's no categories for that. (Or, there's a category, but "Robot arm" is the only option).

I know Free players of CO only get a limited selection of pre-made archetypes, but even if I were to subscribe for freeform power selection, I couldn't remake my Electric/Invulnerability Brute (no melee electric attacks, they're all blasts and holds), my Bots/Storm Mastermind (all the pet powers are magical or toys, and the wind powers are more like blasts than debuffs), or any of my existing characters. I can't recreate ANY of them with even the tiniest degree of accuracy. Not in appearance or powersets. (Don't get me started how my above-mentioned Brute and Mastermind are villains, which are not possible at all in CO)

(Heck, you know, I can't actually recreate my old Champions characters in Champions Online, but I could in City of Heroes)

And since I'm running it on a Crossover emulator to get it to run on a Mac, I have to turn the settings all the way down to get it to run at a reasonable framerate, which means that most of the game is a pixelated blur.

Finally, the actual gameplay is just similar enough to constantly remind me of what we're losing, and it makes me sadder than ever.

Edit: I played for a little while longer. Once I got out of the tutorial (which it seems there is no way to skip), I kept dying repeatedly to small groups of ordinary gun-toting thugs (with a character who would be approximately a Dual Blades/Super Reflexes scrapper in CoH). So it even fails in the "makes you feel like a superhero" part. I don't recall the last time Superman got his *** repeatedly handed to him by a bunch of muggers.

So it's not only making me sadder than ever, it's going out of its way to downright piss me off by making me feel like a paper-mache punching bag instead of a superhero.

So Dofus it is.


 

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Man, I'm definitely not going to Champions Online after this. I've spent the last hour or two playing it, and ...

Well, the costume creator is not only sparse (with I'd say at least 60-70% of the pieces locked in some way, either behind quests, in-game currency, or real cash moneys), but the options utterly baffling. I couldn't recreate even the most basic of my characters' appearances from CoH. My character has one robot arm because I got fed up and hit "Random", and there is now no way to NOT have a robot arm except to hit Random again (which I didn't want to do, since I like most of the costume). There's no categories for that. (Or, there's a category, but "Robot arm" is the only option).

All of this plus a dozen more.
Downloaded and installed Champions Online, the costumes were way too limited in f2p mode and the lack of powers/choices was pretty appalling.
The intro missions were super confusing and I learned you couldn't level up until 5 and I was 4 so...it went into the uninstall pile pretty damned quickly.

I'd tell all of you where I will be going come November but it's a Secret.
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Where am I going? To the gym. Finally going to work my fat butt out...

For now, I'm heading to Guild Wars 2. As much as NCsoft is ticking me off, I really don't blame Arenanet for it. So far GW2 is a good game. It isn't CoH, of course, but I expect it to keep me occupied for many days to come.

After that, I have a couple of console games that I need to get playing. But other than that, I don't know what I'll do. Right now I'm waiting for my immense chronic stomach pain to go away so I can get back to working a job and going to college and having constructive hobbies and all of that non-man-child stuff. I was playing CoH a lot more than I usually do because of that stomach pain, and with that gone I'm going to have to figure out how to medicate myself with another distraction.

This update by NCsoft really does hurt. Literally. Right in the gut. I'm not joking when I say that.



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Dunno. I've got nowhere else to go.


 

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You know, champions locks most costume pieces before level 10, something about streamlining, and you can change categories (chest and arms, robot arm left, robot arm right, chest wear, jackets, etc), the CO Forums have some information about starting in there if you are from CoH


 

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Tough call. CoH was my first pay-to-play MMO, and I only picked it because it looked different from what I'd been playing (free hobbyist "M"MOs and a couple of horrible Korean grindfests). I didn't realize how different it was with regards to other sub-based MMORPGs until much later. I've had a hard time adapting to any other MMO, as none of 'em have the range of customization or the opportunities for teaming that CoH offers.

DCUO is probably the front-runner, but I know it won't last. I love the combat mechanics, the environmental graphics, and the ambient music - but the game hurtles you through the leveling process and slams you into the brick wall that is endgame. YMMV, of course.

CO seems like a logical choice, but it seems like for almost any powerset at almost any given tier, there's one "no-brainer" power that outshines everything else availabe to you; there's no point in not spamming that one thing (unless you just take it off your hotbar and deal with being relatively gimp). I hate when that happens. Plus, while I really like the idea of freeform power selection, there's no way I'm paying PWE one red cent, so I'm stuck with the basic archetypes.

WoW, LotRO, SWTOR, TSW, GW (1 and 2), Rift, EvE, STO, etc. are pretty much off the table. Either they have nothing to offer me, or I've saturated on them already, or they piss me off (looking at you, STO...), or the relative lack of teaming options kills me.

Kind of at the point where MMOs in general are looking like single-player games, so why not just play single-player games? No sub cost, better craftsmanship, larger potential range of mechanics, healthy modding communities - what's not to love?


 

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Pretty much feeling that anything NCSoft puts out will never get another red cent from me. Ever. Ditto other platforms/games associated with NCSoft. I plan on hitting them right back, and where it hurts most. Their wallets.

I purchased the Secret World yesterday and played for a couple hours but....it's not CoH. I hate Champion Online's graphics so....not going there. I'll probably just quit the MMO scene altogether and stick to single player games or shift back to consoles. City of was the only reason I OWNED a computer at any rate. Might just reinvest in an XBox or Playstation and TV. At least I know those games aren't going anywhere.

Pretty much feeling betrayed and hurt beyond words. My sig says it all to any who disagree or want to support NCSoft products in the future.


 

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The slashing of the development staff was because of Eve Online player backlash, especially considering that Eve Online was on semi shakey financial grounds.

Last I heard, they have increased the staffing levels up a bit (down from the couple of hundred that they had initially) but still "tight knit".

For me, I always had a view point that there would be PvP involved... however, i do believe that they would be *seriously* dumb to make it non consensual open world PvP...

*shrugs* As i said, it is still early days for the MMO really, and I honestly believe that CCP will try to make it the best that they can (and not as a themepark style MMO, but more of the sandbox MMO that it should be).
*Nods*

Excellent. Thanks for the info. I think I'm just going to wait until it drops to see for myself. I'm a loyal WoD follower so I would have no issue testing the waters a bit.



 

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Well, I do have Dale-Man on Champions.
Then I have DaleMan on DCUO.
I also have Dale Tiberious Mann on STO.

I'll probably just play all the console games I haven't had time to play because all my gaming time was spent on CoH.


 

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I'll probably just play all the console games I haven't had time to play because all my gaming time was spent on CoH.
Same here...my poor PS3...*blows dusts off it and scrubs off rust* lol.