Where are you going?
After my post in Positron's thread, it occurs to me that I'll probably just go back to console gaming after all, with visits into Kingdom of Loathing (which is essentially a single-player game with a chat room and inter-player trading. There's no multi-player content at all). Other MMOs aren't going to fill the space that CoH occupied.
CO doesn't make me feel awesome. I died five times in the tutorial alone, and in the "real" game fighting more than two minions at a time is instant death. It talks a good game, but, in the end, you're not a superhero, just a punching bag in an ugly costume who can be taken out by a couple of goons.
Dofus doesn't make me feel awesome. I'm underleveled (not a single character at the level cap after more than seven years of playing), undergeared (I'm wearing other people's hand-me-downs), broke (things costs tens of millions of kamas, and I have about 100,000), and all the people I know on that game are so many levels higher that if I get to group at all, it's out of pity, not because I'm an important member of the team. And most bosses at my level range are nearly impossible to beat even for full teams of min-maxed level-capped characters with perfect gear, so what chance do I have alone?
You'll find me on Kingdom of Loathing.
After my post in Positron's thread, it occurs to me that I'll probably just go back to console gaming after all, with visits into Kingdom of Loathing (which is essentially a single-player game with a chat room and inter-player trading. There's no multi-player content at all). Other MMOs aren't going to fill the space that CoH occupied.
CO doesn't make me feel awesome. I died five times in the tutorial alone, and in the "real" game fighting more than two minions at a time is instant death. It talks a good game, but, in the end, you're not a superhero, just a punching bag in an ugly costume who can be taken out by a couple of goons. Dofus doesn't make me feel awesome. I'm underleveled (not a single character at the level cap after more than seven years of playing), undergeared (I'm wearing other people's hand-me-downs), broke (things costs tens of millions of kamas, and I have about 100,000), and all the people I know on that game are so many levels higher that if I get to group at all, it's out of pity, not because I'm an important member of the team. And most bosses at my level range are nearly impossible to beat even for full teams of min-maxed level-capped characters with perfect gear, so what chance do I have alone? You'll find me on KoL as JunTenki. |
Free form builds are the key to making truly powerful characters in CO, but learning the system is HARD. The people there are helpful and there are channels to join to get help. Feel free to give up on it, but I think your experience is skewed compared to mine.
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I'll choose to believe the Dev staff that have insisted Freedom was a financial success. I'll also refer back to an observation a month or so ago that the copyright/license notice on the login screen was out of date.
At this point I choose to believe, until something definite develops, that CO found a way to kill the superhero gorilla competition. |
It's not impossible, but right now, it doesn't seem particularly reasonable that Cryptic had anything to do with it.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
On topic, I think I'll go MMO-less for a while. I might get into the new Tribes game, but I think the best thing I could do for a while is take a break from hard-core gaming and get some stuff done in Real Life.
I would much rather play CoH. But if I can't, I have some other things I've been wanting to do.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
CO doesn't make me feel awesome. I died five times in the tutorial alone, |
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Technically I'd already gone (well I was paying subs here up until last month but hadn't logged in all summer).
I've tried AOC, LOTRO & Rift. Of the 3 LOTRO was the strongest of them but didn't hold my attention. Also tried STO and TOR over the summer. STO was interesting for a while, until I hit Captain levels and realised the content isn't really there. TORs lack of any real mechanical innovation compared to WoW put me off pretty quickly too. None of them have the community of CoH or the same team dynamic (mind you for me CoH always suffered when there wasn't teamage around).
Playing Guild Wars 2 now and for the moment it's diverting enough. We'll see if it can hold my attention or if something else comes along. Torchlight 2 is out in a bit, or failing that I may see if I can polish off a Skyrim mod.
The Secret World is truly fantastic but in no way a replacement for CoX. I'd recommend looking at it though.
XCom, Last of Us ... very very little MMO based right now. I have a lifetime sub for CO (2 actually) and I STILL subscribed to CoX and played here out of choice.
Already tried Warhammer online (which was actually fun)/Rift(s?)/DCUO/APB ... only thing that kept my attention other than CoX was L4D.
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I'm going to probably stop gaming after this, CoH has been my one and only game for 8 years. Its like losing a best friend and a loved one. I have so many memories, made so many friends and now they're just memories. No more reliving Paragon. No more storming Grandville, no more anything. I will honestly be far too hurt to continue gaming.
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HOW? I have had one character die in the tutorial once, and that was my fault (waded into the deep section).
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It wasn't until another player came in the room and distracted him that we were able to beat him.
Today I tried to give the game one more chance, to try to take it on its own terms and not look at it through the filter of CoH Awesomeness, but all it did was completely crash my wife's laptop during the tutorial-entering cutscene, so that's the last straw.
I bought a lifetime sub to Champions Online in the last week of beta, so I still have that to fall back on. I've probably only played about a month total since then though... I also still have an active (free month) sub for TERA, but I haven't touched that in about a week.
Then there's always F2P STO, LotRO, or Mabinogi. But like CO, I haven't really played any of them in a loooong time and only for about a month each anyway.
I didn't enjoy my time with DCUO or FFXI, so I won't be going to those.
I would play SWTOR or TSW, but they carry the EA label and they're worse than NCsoft in my book.
So in conclusion, I don't have a clue. I may just go back to beta testing random games until I find something that sticks...
The boss at the very end. He'd use a Hold on me while I was trying to get close to him, and while I was slamming on the Z key over and over in an attempt to escape (that can't be good for the keyboard), he'd use some sort of one-hit-kill attack on me.
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Anyway, sorry CO didn't work out for you. It has a surprisingly different combat style from CoH, and can take some time to get used to. Issues like yours were not uncommon when the game first launched.
I'm a glutton for punishment, I guess. I gave it one more chance, and .. okay, the tutorial boss still killed me a half-dozen times (I created a new account instead of using a character slot on my wife's account, so I had to go through the Tutorial again), but I wasn't dying to random enemies as much. I'd just gotten Invulnerability when I signed out to give the wife her computer back.
It's still a solid Meh for me, but I guess that's an improvement. The system requirements probably make it not really an option more than anything else. If they had a Mac version....
(Also I really wrote that ranty post in the middle of the night here, when I'd been awakened from my sleep by troubled dreams, and was tired and grumpy. I do actually like Dofus, even though I get frustrated with it at times)
I've never met another MMO that I cared for. Despite any grousing, CoH is the only MMO that's scratched my gaming itch.
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I played a fair amount of WoW, but mainly to hang out on our Teamspeak server and shoot the breeze with some IRL friends while doing whatever in game. Playing, I guess, but the hanging out was more of a draw than the gameplay. It was alright to level through, but there as here I had zero interest in the "endgame" so the engagement was finite.
WoW is my second favorite MMO- all of the others I've tried were deleted within hours of installation- but I'm basically through with it.
I'll probably re-install Steam and start working through my enormous backlog of unplayed games. The only way I could stop myself from going hog-wild during their holiday sales was to delete the client, even though I *knew* I wasn't going to actually play any of the stuff I bought. Now I'll have time, I guess. =/
The Nethergoat Archive: all my memories, all my characters, all my thoughts on CoH...eventually.
My City Was Gone
Was briefly considering going back to CO, and I started my "skeptical" thread over there. I'm completely underwhelmed by how that game has progressed in 3 years. As someone mentioned either on this forum or over at CO (I can't remember which, I've been playing forum tag all day), its like CO came out first and then they made COH later after they learned from their earlier mistakes. Its one of the most surreal things in MMOs.
But then I realized I already have a sub with The Secret World I haven't touched in a few weeks. I had to take a break from TSW because they are going through a drama bomb of their own, albeit not quite like this one. But the BS with COH has given me fresh perspective. TSW is a good game, and the disappointments they are experiencing now look minor by comparison. In time I think it will be a great game like COH is today. The game has a lot of great things going for it that they will build off of. I wish there was some way for ex-Paragon Studios employees to get involved with that franchise.
Tera online is solo friendly (probably to much) in that normal questing doesnt really require a team, and if you prefere to team, best to have a dedicated group that won't outlevel you (basically not run anything unless you're all together).
Gameplay is great imo. Art style/graphics great. Body type is the same for all races, but the face sliders/details is AWESOME!
Love the game myself. Hate how it has evryone running solo.
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I have no real interest in other MMOs, so if city of heroes doesn't come back in some form I'm likely not coming back to this subset of the gaming industry. I will be taking my characters over to the RPProjects forums and beyond because I've invested too much time into them to just let them be taken away because of some glorified bean counters half a world away.
For what it's worth, Zwil, Posi and BaBs have all said they don't think this is the case. Notably, BaBs works for Cryptic. While the conspiracy theorist in us might claim that makes him untrustworthy, I think it's worth considering that two Paragon Studio peeps agree with him.
It's not impossible, but right now, it doesn't seem particularly reasonable that Cryptic had anything to do with it. |
Well... this sucks.
Given my somewhat frantic work schedule - and a laptop barely clinging to life - I'm going to be going MMO-less for quite a while.
Secret World looks interesting - though in need of some serious work. Perhaps by the time I get a new machine they'll have overhauled combat and crafting.
ST:O Despite accidentally founding one of the early large fleets (The FireFlies: Dr.Amy Weaver, geddit?) and the repetitive combat and frequent bugs of the early days hacked me off badly.
DCUO: despite having a glorious voice cast (Hamill, Conroy, Gina Torres, Adam Baldwin, Dwight Schultz, James Marsters, Adam Baldwin, WHEEAAATOOONN!! and more) and actually pretty good scripting... bugs'n'grind, baby, bugs'n'grind, and a pretty rigid path towards levelling up. Plus very poor social tools.
Marvel Heroes: don't make me laugh. As I told Ryan Penagos himself over the Twitter... "MH may let me play any Marvel Hero. COH lets me be... me."
...and that's what I'm really going to miss. Letting my imagination rip.
Is it time for the dance of joy yet?
So far, bugs and whatnot included, Skyrim looks like my new home for the foreseeable future, heh.
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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I'm a glutton for punishment, I guess. I gave it one more chance, and .. okay, the tutorial boss still killed me a half-dozen times (I created a new account instead of using a character slot on my wife's account, so I had to go through the Tutorial again), but I wasn't dying to random enemies as much. I'd just gotten Invulnerability when I signed out to give the wife her computer back.
It's still a solid Meh for me, but I guess that's an improvement. The system requirements probably make it not really an option more than anything else. If they had a Mac version.... (Also I really wrote that ranty post in the middle of the night here, when I'd been awakened from my sleep by troubled dreams, and was tired and grumpy. I do actually like Dofus, even though I get frustrated with it at times) |
"I have something to say! It's better to burn out then to fade away!"
For a superhero fix, it has to be CO. DCUO is a piece of crap. It still has a lot of UI problems because it was designed FOR a console, and ported to PCs, and the bulk of their playerbase is on the console platform. They'll never change the thing to make the substantially smaller PC base happy.
COs constumes are big, bulky, and nowhere near as finely detailed as COH's were, but they're getting there. The creator is actually really good. I could do without the epic levels of comedy. But it's not a bad system. It's come a long way.
But, if I had to choose a game, it's the Secret World, hands down. There's no limit to what you can be, and it's in the modern world. Costume creator is lacking, but the missions are complex and require strategy and teamwork, and you have to use your brain. You can't just faceroll your way through swarms of minions.
So, in order of preference: Secret World, CO, and DCUO only under threat of torture.
Since the CoH pacifier was knocked from my mouth I've been frantically searching for one of the same size, color, and quality.
DCUO... no. CO I can't even spend 2 minutes in since I find it so kitten-murderingly ugly. The style just isn't my style I suppose. SWTOR feels small and boring, Secret World feel buggy and unsubstantial. Everything else is elves and dwarves which simply doesn't appeal to me. The only one that looks enticing at all is Guild Wars 2 but it's still elves and dwarves and the guilt of buying it would stab at my brain.
I have a hard time staying in CoH now knowing that it's ending, especially since I was so eagerly awaiting an i24 that will never happen.
I guess I'll go play Mass Effect again.
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Since the CoH pacifier was knocked from my mouth I've been frantically searching for one of the same size, color, and quality.
DCUO... no. CO I can't even spend 2 minutes in since I find it so kitten-murderingly ugly. The style just isn't my style I suppose. SWTOR feels small and boring, Secret World feel buggy and unsubstantial. Everything else is elves and dwarves which simply doesn't appeal to me. The only one that looks enticing at all is Guild Wars 2 but it's still elves and dwarves and the guilt of buying it would stab at my brain. I have a hard time staying in CoH now knowing that it's ending, especially since I was so eagerly awaiting an i24 that will never happen. I guess I'll go play Mass Effect again. |
On the one hand, I can't blame you. CoH is one of my favorites. But on the other, you've gotta give a little sometimes.
"I have something to say! It's better to burn out then to fade away!"
As little offense intended by this as possible, but you sound unpleasable to me. You're just finding things to complain about ((Star Wars small and boring. Really? Did you even get past the tutorial planets? And CO. Ugly. You've been playing CoH for years...)) and aren't even really trying to get into anything.
On the one hand, I can't blame you. CoH is one of my favorites. But on the other, you've gotta give a little sometimes. |
I think what I loved about it came down to the ability to really make the hero I always dreamed of making. I played WoW to level 25 but gave up because I couldn't truly customize my character. I care less about showing off my loot then showing off my own creativity and letting that vision breathe in a world populated by superheroes.
I've loved this game for all that time because it miraculously gave me exactly what I wanted. I concede that I'm set in my ways, but it's also a pretty tall order to top.
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WoW for me - it and CoH have always been my two main games. Both games suit me well and it was rare that I didn't have a subscription to them both.
Champions - I'm a lifetime there. Boy, was that a mistake. Now I have lots and lots of points, but I just can't seem to get into that game. Stll, I have a lot of analogs of my CoH toons, and ther's a certain nostalgia in that.
Secret World - love that game, but it's suited to me. Very evocative, solo-friendly, love the style of the game for me. But it's so oddball - not sure how long it will last.
GW2 - picked it up before the hammer fell on CoH. Oddly, haven't logged on since, but eh, it's on the computer. Guess I could say the same about GW1.
Looking at SW: TOR. played it on my old computer, and boy is it a talky game. A lot to be said about waving a lightsaber around, though. Hoping game play is better on the new computer.
Tried Rifts, and it's very nice, but it didn't hook me. Have a Star Trek account - I think I have a tribble. Don't think it's currently installed though.